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Offline Twinrover1965  
#1 Posted : 16 December 2022 11:15:42(UTC)
Twinrover1965

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I operate three separate layouts using Marklin C track with MS2 digital, and Trix C track and Tillig TT bettungleis with analogue control deploying Kato controllers.

I now want to run all three using my MS2 to continue my gradual and very cautious journey from rabid adherence to analogue to full blown digital! control. I've done a lot of research and found that such a setup is possible.

Although there is reference to the first stage up to the connector box. There is no explicit guidance on how to deal with distributing the signals to the three layouts because as it stands at the moment there are just 2 fixed wires popping out the back of the connector box.

How do you add another 2 sets of wires to the Trix and Tillig tracks respectively? Is there some kind of distribution device that Marklin keeps quiet? I am well aware that brand loyalty is sacred in Germany and to some extent here in the UK but there are those who prefer to keep both AC and DC, along with the long overdue revival of TT. I accommodate this variety by three concentric circles comprising Tillig Radius 1 Marklin Radii 2 & 3, and Trix Radius 4.

Are there any experts out there who can assist with my diverse request, please?

I am plug and play so averse to soldering etc. I can just about turn a screwdriver.

Roll on MS2 wireless!

Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 16 December 2022 12:29:15(UTC)
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Hi!
Originally Posted by: Twinrover1965 Go to Quoted Post
I am plug and play so averse to soldering etc. I can just about turn a screwdriver.
You can use Märklin 74040 to take the power from the C track feeder track and distribute it to the other layouts. This way you don't have to cut the cables coming from the track box, but all power goes through the C track layout.

Better approach: cut the cables between track box and spade connectors and add distribution panels. Distribute power from there to the three layouts. You can add switches to power the layouts individually. You can use 74040 for C track. Or get 74042 and cut it in the middle to get the equivalent of two 74040 at a lower cost. Or maybe get a bag of 74995, but that requires more skills.
Regards
Tom
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Offline Twinrover1965  
#3 Posted : 21 July 2024 14:30:37(UTC)
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I am about to receive my digital version of the Roco TT scale CSD class 152 dmu and want to make absolutely sure that I can run the TT 12 volt unit from my MS2 without having to summon the Fire Service. What you are saying is that the 16 volts from the Marklin track can be fed through to the Trix and Tillig TT track without any negative consequence. Or are we talking about just the pulses?

Please forgive my ignorance but all this tech stuff is all a bit beyond me!

Can any fellow users advise, please?

Many thanks, Twinrover.
Offline mike c  
#4 Posted : 21 July 2024 20:17:10(UTC)
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As the MS2 is not putting out that much power, operating the same unit across three layouts might be problematic
Your best option might be to acquire two more connector boxes and then plug the MS2 to the box for whichever layout you want to operate at that moment.
If you want to have one unit to control all the layouts, you may be better suited with the Central Station

Regards

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Offline H0  
#5 Posted : 22 July 2024 08:02:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mike c Go to Quoted Post
As the MS2 is not putting out that much power, operating the same unit across three layouts might be problematic
Twinrover is concerned that the voltage of the MS2 could be too high for TT locos.
The output voltage of a CS3 is even higher.

@Twinrover: I do not know which track voltages are typically used for digital TT operation.
The MS2 can also be used for digital N gauge operation. I don't know which Märklin powersupply is included with N gauge starter sets.

My gut feeling: the 18 V power pack for the MS2 should be OK for TT gauge locos.
Regards
Tom
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Offline Goofy  
#6 Posted : 22 July 2024 11:22:53(UTC)
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You can only use one MS box to control your digital layout.
To divided up is to use terminals which you connect MS box as power feeder.
Be attention that MS box feed maximum 36 VA with power feeder 66360.
H0
DCC = Digital Command Control
Offline H0  
#7 Posted : 22 July 2024 11:45:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
You can only use one MS box to control your digital layout.
Yes. But one MS2 track box can be connected to three layouts at the same time.

Regards
Tom
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Offline Goofy  
#8 Posted : 22 July 2024 12:18:38(UTC)
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That’s way i did also wrote use terminals to divided up.
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DCC = Digital Command Control
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