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Offline camcath  
#1 Posted : 05 July 2024 09:37:25(UTC)
camcath

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Location: Victoria
Hi

I have just been in Kuala Lumpur and purchased a 41773 set at Truly Trains, Marklin's seller in Malaysia and a terrific little shop with a vast array of Marklin, Trix and LGB stock. The 41773, although new, has a few marks but nothing drastic, I suspect the marks are from sitting in a box in the tropics for many years. In any event I paid about $110 Australian, which I thought a good price. I was wondering about lighting, and noted that the instructions said there was no intention of creating a lighting kit for the consist because of how it is constructed. I did note on ebay a seller offering up a lighting kit for the 41773 -https://www.ebay.com/itm/124612945999. I am assuming this is a self made kit and was hoping someone could advise of me of this or any other 41773 lighting options. Ideally, I'd like to install Markln LED lighting if possible.

Many thanks.

Cameron
Offline JohnjeanB  
#2 Posted : 05 July 2024 13:26:34(UTC)
JohnjeanB

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Location: Paris, France
Hi Cameron
Here are a few tracks:
Solution using LED seld adhesive tape
- LED tape is easy to find in rolls for approx 5€ for 5 meters. You may cut them each group of 3 and they are usually 12 VDC
- for analog operation, inserting a bridge rectifier and a dimming resistor is all you need
- using a thin enameled wire between cars to bring the B (current pickup from "Pukos" (Studs) will help
- you need also to install a ground pickup Your choice to have only one per consist or one per car

It will work very fine but will be delicate to install and to have the entire consist on tracks

Solution using Märklin lighting packages like 073300 (check the length is appropriate for your cars
- using this type of lighting means that all the filtering, rectifying, etc is done by Märklin but this is more costly.
- the key issue is to install the 2 wire supply between all cars and install a ground return by wheels (a couple of axles is enough

Here are some example of LED self adhesive tape implementation (home made except the car in forefront)
Eclairage wagons LED.png

Cheers
Jean
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Offline camcath  
#3 Posted : 05 July 2024 14:36:26(UTC)
camcath

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Many thanks, I have a brother who is an electrical engineer, this will be a job for him!

Regards

Cameron
Offline camcath  
#4 Posted : 06 July 2024 11:25:01(UTC)
camcath

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Location: Victoria
Hi Jean

another question - are you able to provide advice on how I might go about separating the wagon bodies and the bases? Its not immediately clear to me. On the lighting itself, I was thinking also this might be the perfect opportunity to use up a bunch of battery controlled LED lights (gaugemaster) I have stored away.

Regards

Cameron
Offline JohnjeanB  
#5 Posted : 06 July 2024 11:31:49(UTC)
JohnjeanB

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Hi Cameron
No I don’t have this set so I don’t know how to open it Sorry
Jean
Offline camcath  
#6 Posted : 06 July 2024 11:49:40(UTC)
camcath

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Thanks Jean

No problem, was actually a bit of rash buy. I didn't actually plan on the purchase but when I came across it, I couldn't resist! We lived in Berlin for several years in the 2000s and actually took the train a few times.

Cheers

Cameron
Offline dickinsonj  
#7 Posted : 07 July 2024 00:51:14(UTC)
dickinsonj

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Cameron,

Here is a link to the manual for that set and it should have instructions for removing the body.


https://static.maerklin....85cfc1e49f1434542103.pdf

The Marklin website is a great resource.

Cheers
Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
Offline camcath  
#8 Posted : 07 July 2024 09:57:26(UTC)
camcath

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Location: Victoria
Hi Jim

Many thanks - I had been through the instructions but could find nothing, I suspect because the wagons aren't intended to be fitted with lights. I will need to carefully work through.

Thanks to all for your help.

Cameron
Offline lok151  
#9 Posted : 07 July 2024 12:19:55(UTC)
lok151

Australia   
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https://eisenbahnbauer.j...ahn/umbauberichte/talgo/

This web page shows lights can be added to interior, however, how the coaches are dismantled is not shown. The images give a hint how the coaches are clipped together.
Click on CONTACT at the top of the page will drop down an E-mail box to ask questions.

https://support.electrot...attachments/360017096360

This was originally an Electrotren set. Electrotren is now part of Hornby International and maybe they may have an Instructions Sheet for the set that shows how to dismantle the coaches.

Hope you are successful in lighting your set.
Bernard
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Offline camcath  
#10 Posted : 07 July 2024 13:30:06(UTC)
camcath

Australia   
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Location: Victoria
Many thanks Bernard, very helpful.

Regards

Cameron
Offline dickinsonj  
#11 Posted : 08 July 2024 00:40:41(UTC)
dickinsonj

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Originally Posted by: camcath Go to Quoted Post
Hi Jim

Many thanks - I had been through the instructions but could find nothing, I suspect because the wagons aren't intended to be fitted with lights. I will need to carefully work through.

Thanks to all for your help.

Cameron

I have never seen instructions that didn't show how to open the coaches, so I sent that link without looking. Later I did look and was surprised that there wasn't more information there.

Good luck and if you figure this out let us know!

Regards,
Jim

I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time.
Offline Bosse  
#12 Posted : 08 July 2024 05:51:50(UTC)
Bosse

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