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Offline Snowfun  
#1 Posted : 16 April 2024 17:20:05(UTC)
Snowfun

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Joined: 25/10/2021(UTC)
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Location: The Highlands
Finally... I’ve put down a length of track, opened my Flying Scotsman, a Krokodil and the cheap electric “start up” locomotive (36509). The latter seems to be to a different scale. Is it my eyesight or is it genuinely “too big”? And does this apply to all start up items (ie should I avoid them?!).
I had naively assumed that they would be to the same scale albeit less refined.
I do quite like the humble 36509 so I might get another 1 or 2... just not to run on the same day as the other more expensive offerings.
And I guess the “start up” rolling stock is also on the large size?
(It’s only rolling up and down 2m of straight track at the moment but, goodness, the Flying Scotsman looks magnificent)
Tim
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#2 Posted : 18 April 2024 04:09:59(UTC)
kimballthurlow

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Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC)
Posts: 6,686
Location: Brisbane, Australia
The 2 axle start up locos are built to a price.
In order to get the best manufacture value/playability, the motor is rather large.
To fit in a HO scale loco the body has to be made wider than a strict scale model.
In the 36509 the model is probably freelance, something designed by Märklin from a generic prototype.

Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
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Offline Copenhagen  
#3 Posted : 18 April 2024 08:19:15(UTC)
Copenhagen


Joined: 23/04/2019(UTC)
Posts: 387
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
The Start Up range is also described as for kids from the age of 6+

I have a few items from the Start Up series just for the fun of it and because they were cheap.
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Offline Jimmy Thompson  
#4 Posted : 18 April 2024 12:58:17(UTC)
Jimmy Thompson

United States   
Joined: 26/03/2019(UTC)
Posts: 636
Location: Florida Classic but Successful Swampland City
Well, that little lok seems to be from:

UserPostedImage

which did service with Ruhrkohle AG, which may help explain the "beefier" nature of the beast! ThumpUp

Whisper Mode On which is not to say that Mother M did not add bits and bobs here and there Blink Whisper Mode Off
Jimmy T
Analogue; M-track; BR 111; KLVM; Primex; Sarrasani Zirkuswelt
There is a Prototype For Everything
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Offline Jimmy Thompson  
#5 Posted : 18 April 2024 15:11:11(UTC)
Jimmy Thompson

United States   
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Posts: 636
Location: Florida Classic but Successful Swampland City
And, because I have a history of wantonly spending other people's money...

46241

UserPostedImage

or

4824

UserPostedImage

Enjoy Ruhrkohle! Cool Woot

Granted, one could also go with 4413...with some "RAG" decals (home-made probably)...Blink
UserPostedImage

Sneaky
Jimmy T
Analogue; M-track; BR 111; KLVM; Primex; Sarrasani Zirkuswelt
There is a Prototype For Everything
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#6 Posted : 19 April 2024 06:15:53(UTC)
kimballthurlow

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Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC)
Posts: 6,686
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Originally Posted by: Jimmy Thompson Go to Quoted Post
Well, that little lok seems to be from:

UserPostedImage

which did service with Ruhrkohle AG, which may help explain the "beefier" nature of the beast! ThumpUp

Whisper Mode On which is not to say that Mother M did not add bits and bobs here and there Blink Whisper Mode Off


Hi Jimmy,
That Ruhrkohle loco has almost certainly been used by Märklin to model the 36509.
Well spotted.
To keep the price down they have modelled it without:
handrails
much lettering/numbers
buffer beam stripes
vertically elongated windows at cab front and rear
It certainly contains the basic elements to create a decent model with what we call super-detailing or DIY detailing.

I have one of the 2 axle diesels on which I based my assertion the body is wider than normal.
And even on this electric model the absence of the frontal windows indicates a body widening.

Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
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Offline marklinist5999  
#7 Posted : 19 April 2024 12:39:45(UTC)
marklinist5999

United States   
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC)
Posts: 3,230
Location: Michigan, Troy
Some start-up items are in the regular program but minus the blister package.
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Offline TrainIride  
#8 Posted : 20 April 2024 09:52:40(UTC)
TrainIride

France   
Joined: 23/10/2010(UTC)
Posts: 1,956
Location: FRANCE
I have the Start Up 29453 Container Train starter set

The DHG 700 has a horn sound and a static motor sound , and a blinking light.

Even if it's for 6-12 years old kids, I love it !

Marklin_29453_e.jpg

Best Regards
Joël
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