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AntoinePrt		#51 Posted : 02 March 2024 13:16:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/01/2017(UTC) Posts: 143 Location: Ile-de-France, Paris		Originally Posted by: Goofy Märklin did also produced those models before. Really? A 18.3? Can you give us an example please? With the good boiler and tender of course. Amuse me A.
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shannon		#52 Posted : 02 March 2024 16:08:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 337 Location: Taipei,		Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Originally Posted by: Goofy Märklin did also produced those models before. Really? A 18.3? Can you give us an example please? With the good boiler and tender of course. Amuse me A. https://www.maerklin.de/...ts/details/article/39025
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AntoinePrt		#53 Posted : 02 March 2024 17:12:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/01/2017(UTC) Posts: 143 Location: Ile-de-France, Paris		Originally Posted by: shannon Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Originally Posted by: Goofy Märklin did also produced those models before. Really? A 18.3? Can you give us an example please? With the good boiler and tender of course. Amuse me A. https://www.maerklin.de/...ts/details/article/39025 Wrong boiler, wrong tender Yes the ref 39020, 39024 and 39025 are close relatives indeed. But they are NOT like the 18 316 or 18 323. Be patient, the mystery will soon be solved! A.
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mbarreto		#54 Posted : 04 March 2024 16:07:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,265		Here is the marketing pdf for this locomotive 18 323. Surprise locomotive 1 - 2024 The price is 679 euros. MC
		Best regards, Miguel Mostly Märklin H0.
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mbarreto		#55 Posted : 04 March 2024 16:33:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,265		The link to the Märklin page: 38323 And the vídeo: Miguel
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bph		#56 Posted : 04 March 2024 17:48:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/08/2018(UTC) Posts: 997		Interesting but good choice, had kind of expected a model of the 18.316, with the extended smoke box. And since 18.323 has a "standard" 18.3 boiler I assume Märklin plans to release more IVh/18.3's with dynamic smoke and new tooling. quite promising ref: https://eisenbahn-museumsfahrzeuge.de/index.php/deutschland/staatsbahnfahrzeuge/dampflokomotiven/baureihe-183/18-323 Quite tempted by the 38323
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Marklineisenbahn		#57 Posted : 04 March 2024 18:27:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 287 Location: New York City		Hallo and Good Day to all , Yes interesting project Märklin (H0, AC) Article-No: 38323 Express train steam locomotive 18 323 of the DB, era III. But the price is also very interesting as well RP: 679,00 € or 629,00 € Hope that they sold out quickly… Regards, Marklineisenbahn
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AntoinePrt		#58 Posted : 05 March 2024 01:49:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/01/2017(UTC) Posts: 143 Location: Ile-de-France, Paris		Originally Posted by: Marklineisenbahn Hope that they sold out quickly… Hello, Why? Are you a speculation fan maybe? On the contrary, I hope there will be plenty to satisfy everybody and make prices go down. Tired of seing people buying new locomotives just to sell them afterwards and try to speculate/make additional profits. We’re talking about about a hobby. Make sure it stays a hobby. A.
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GlennM		#59 Posted : 05 March 2024 03:47:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,886 Location: Somewhere, But Nowhere Near Manchester, England		Not interesting for me so I will pass, might now consider the Swedish Class F 1200 instead
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ParisTsirchoglou		#60 Posted : 05 March 2024 12:04:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/03/2015(UTC) Posts: 127 Location:: Thessaloniki, Greece		Originally Posted by: GlennM Not interesting for me so I will pass, might now consider the Swedish Class F 1200 instead ... me too to be honest. The Swedish Class F 1200 is so much more beautiful ... to my eyes
		Era I and Era II German and Swiss Steamers and E-Loks. Proud owner of a Challenger (-;
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Marklineisenbahn		#61 Posted : 07 March 2024 18:56:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 287 Location: New York City		Gentlemen, Dreileiters, It's a bit of a hypocrisy on Marklin's part to charge 679 MSRP Euros for a another BR18 regular model - Steam engine , frankly if only Marklin had a dynamic smoke and a Maxxon or SB motor in it , or they would have new model S3 or Pm 11 Eg: maybe I would be tempted, but for a regular model with a sound decoder 679 euros is a horror... What are they thinking…. In today’s recession and inflation going through the roof? Sorry I won’t be supporting Märklin shareholders… they need a bucket of cold water. Regards, Marklineisenbahn
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Pasquiles		#62 Posted : 07 March 2024 19:34:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2019(UTC) Posts: 27 Location: Luxembourg, Luxembourg		The loco is nice, but agree with the comments about the price. I bought recently the 18.5, yes without dynamic steam but price was 450€, considerably less. To defend at some point extent Märklin, I must say as well that inflation in Europe got crazy, for the day to day items prices increased dramatically, far beyond the official figures. So we are paying things for 40% or 50% more than we were paying 3-4 years ago. And Germany in particular is paying now a high toll for their energy policy of the last years. So in short the inflation that Märklin items have had is not so far from other products here in Europe. Edited by user 08 March 2024 18:29:12(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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mbarreto		#63 Posted : 07 March 2024 21:02:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,265		Originally Posted by: Marklineisenbahn ... Steam engine , frankly if only Marklin had a dynamic smoke and a Maxxon or SB motor in it.... Regards, Marklineisenbahn The locomotive has dynamic smoke exhaust that varies with the locomotive speed and is digitally controlled. It also has some details like pipes under the cabin that have 2 positions (display/running modes) and basically it has all features. I don't discuss which locomotive looks better. I like this locomotive, but I don't think I will go for it as, for such price, I must feel that it is the version I really want. This is one doesn't have silver stripes, so I will wait for one with silver stripes (in case that will be possible and I am not more tempted for other locomotive when such a version appears). Anyway, it is a great looking and operative locomotive (I like most BR 18.n) and I understand many will go for it. Miguel
		Best regards, Miguel Mostly Märklin H0.
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marklinist5999		#64 Posted : 07 March 2024 21:15:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,142 Location: Michigan, Troy		I just got a reseve order email from a domestic dealer. $659 US. Still very expensive. Believe me, I've been addicted to the hobby and it can be like crack. Some will spend any amount, but I am at the age now where my income does not rise enough with inflation, so I have to watch it. I think that's the main issue because the new models with the sequential smoke and such are great if they operate properly.
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Wolfram_Stn		#65 Posted : 12 March 2024 10:37:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/02/2024(UTC) Posts: 13 Location: Grand-Est, Alsace		Hey, It is not "just another BR 18" since the BR 18 groups all pacific types from before 1919, saxonian, bavarian and others... Since it is far from my theme and costs a lot of money I will not purchase it but I am happy for all who waited for this type since the DR version was presented. The DB locos were largely revised with major visible changings so you could not simply adapt a DR model to DB.
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Norbstarted1969		#66 Posted : 13 March 2024 02:24:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/01/2022(UTC) Posts: 31 Location: New York, Glenmont		Nice model, but I'll pass. Maybe the price is reasonable for the features and the effort needed to manufacture it, but close to 7 bills is too rich for my blood.
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river6109		#67 Posted : 13 March 2024 06:43:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,728 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Originally Posted by: Marklineisenbahn Gentlemen, Dreileiters, It's a bit of a hypocrisy on Marklin's part to charge 679 MSRP Euros for a another BR18 regular model - Steam engine , frankly if only Marklin had a dynamic smoke and a Maxxon or SB motor in it , or they would have new model S3 or Pm 11 Eg: maybe I would be tempted, but for a regular model with a sound decoder 679 euros is a horror... What are they thinking…. In today’s recession and inflation going through the roof? Sorry I won’t be supporting Märklin shareholders… they need a bucket of cold water. Regards, Marklineisenbahn There are hobbyist and collectors who say: have to have it, I've past this many years ago., I'm surprised that I still buy locos in my age (80), looks like I haven't totally got rid of the idea: have to have it John
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river6109		#68 Posted : 13 March 2024 06:45:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,728 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Originally Posted by: Norbstarted1969 Nice model, but I'll pass. Maybe the price is reasonable for the features and the effort needed to manufacture it, but close to 7 bills is too rich for my blood. I'll convert a BR 18 with all the extras for half the price , it also could be the price already includes the manufacturing costs for the next project John
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mbarreto		#69 Posted : 13 March 2024 10:22:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,265		Hello, The BR 18.3 is an impressive model, although I wait for one like the one in the video. It is a Liliput: they have extreme detail, but 25 (or so) years ago I bought one and it quickly transformed in a pack of parts. I hope Liliput is more robust now, but I have no idea. I bought some wagons without bogies (just 2 axles) and they were and still are very good, just needed to shorten the wheels distance in each axle. Below the Youtube video of channel "Model Train Collector". Miguel
		Best regards, Miguel Mostly Märklin H0.
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Norbstarted1969		#70 Posted : 13 March 2024 23:07:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/01/2022(UTC) Posts: 31 Location: New York, Glenmont		There are hobbyist and collectors who say: have to have it, I've past this many years ago., I'm surprised that I still buy locos in my age (80), looks like I haven't totally got rid of the idea: have to have it John Well, I'm 63 and I'm still an addict, having bought the Albatross, Flying Scotsman, And Est Serie 13. What's the use of money if you never spend any of it? I'll probably buy my last loco right before I get on the train to my final destination (Grim Reaper Central Station). That said, I'm not going to drop that kind of money when there are already 9 Pacifics in my fleet.
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