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laalves
#51
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Lutz, what software version have you got?
Mine is 1.0.7(3)(2nd version) and I do have a major issue: my 2 boosters are not working, as you know. Is your version free of this problem?
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PS: I don't have any problems with my CS-II either (except that the loco list is limited to 90, but a workaround for this exists as well). I'm currently even waiting for the delivery of my second CS-II and the availability of the interconnect cable #60123.
Lutz,
I hate to tell you this....
... no actually I love to be the one to break the news.
the 60123 is already available
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17 February 2009 13:07:32(UTC)
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My CS 2 appears to be OK. If the loco list is limited to 90 that is not a problem as I dont think I will ever own as many locos and if I did I doubt I would have them all on the layout.
The warranty claim as descibed above does not apply to Marklin bought in the UK. If for example your key board is not right then you get a refund from the dealer or if you wish a replacement. The choice is that of the customer.
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17 February 2009 17:31:28(UTC)
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Originally posted by Hemmerich
PS: I don't have any problems with my CS-II either (except that the loco list is limited to 90, but a workaround for this exists as well).
What's the work around ???
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PS: I don't have any problems with my CS-II either (except that the loco list is limited to 90, but a workaround for this exists as well). I'm currently even waiting for the delivery of my second CS-II and the availability of the interconnect cable #60123.
Lutz,
I hate to tell you this....
... no actually I love to be the one to break the news.
the 60123 is already available
I am curious & impatient to know in which way 2 CS2 are working together , how do they communicate together with the layout , etc...
IE : what happens on CS2-1 while you call one Lok which is registered on CS2-2 or while it is already called on CS2-2 (if possible)and how it reacts , etc, etc,...
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James,
When a company is insolvent it still exist but is protected from people demanding money (back). Dealers are not responsible to provide technical guarantee when the original manufacturar of the product is bust. However, in case the dealer made "lies" during the selling arguments then he is liable for a refund.
In short, the best lawyer wins when subsidairies are involved.
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26 February 2009 11:36:32(UTC)
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"Sehr geehrter Herr Alves,
wir bedanken uns für Ihr Schreiben und für Ihr Interesse an unseren Produkten.
Das neue update für die Central Station soll bis Anfang April online verfügbar sein.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Ihr Märklin Kundenservice"
That was today's email info.
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26 February 2009 11:44:20(UTC)
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The date of the update gets longer and longer. Now April
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26 February 2009 11:54:15(UTC)
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It was
april
a long time ago - 10. of February.
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27 February 2009 02:52:21(UTC)
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Originally posted by Hemmerich
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Originally posted by laalves
<br />"Sehr geehrter Herr Alves,
wir bedanken uns für Ihr Schreiben und für Ihr Interesse an unseren Produkten.
Das neue update für die Central Station soll bis Anfang April online verfügbar sein.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Ihr Märklin Kundenservice"
That was today's email info.
You (and all other members here) got this info already two weeks ago in this thread.
However knowledgeable and well-connected the hearsay source
, it's still hearsay. Having it from Märklin direct, it's the real - and very disappointing - thing.
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27 February 2009 12:01:40(UTC)
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Originally posted by laalves
Having it from Märklin direct, it's the real ... thing.
Maybe you hadn't got it - the info which I had posted there was as well direct from Märklin; no different than what you posted again now.
But Lutz you omitted to say that the information was official information from Maerklin so therefore what you posted was pure hearsay
or a wild guess
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27 February 2009 12:26:34(UTC)
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I am happy to wait until April as my CS2 works fine. I can see however that it is not good business to change dates and that will annoy customers which at this time is the last thing Marklin would want.
Perhaps if a reason for the delay was given which was important to ensure an even better CS2 then that would keep everybody happy.
I enjoy this controller and look forward to the update in April.
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27 February 2009 13:39:43(UTC)
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I think Lutz might have some good information. And I can wait, since I really enjoy the CS2. I do not want to worry about it and get my blood pressure up. All taht will do is shorten one's life.
I am not going to get excited about trying to dig into someones post to see if the information is fit to be used on Perry Masonn reruns as evidence. That does not add to anything at all.
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27 February 2009 18:31:29(UTC)
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PS: I can easily wait until April; it's just a few weeks - and if Märklin thinks they need this time - fine.
I wouldn´t saying like that,Lutz...!
Because of the warranty dissapears after 1(?) year for CS2.
So the longer time it takes,the worse becomes for customer with CS2.
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27 February 2009 18:40:22(UTC)
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Only 1 year?
An outsider.
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27 February 2009 20:12:19(UTC)
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Originally posted by laalves
Having it from Märklin direct, it's the real ... thing.
Maybe you hadn't got it - the info which I had posted there was as well direct from Märklin; no different than what you posted again now.
PS: I can easily wait until April; it's just a few weeks - and if Märklin thinks they need this time - fine.
I got it entirely. I heard (read) from you, and you are not an official Märklin source AFAIK [}:)]. Now I have received, directly from Märklin, an email saying that. That then becomes official for me. Einstein explained this: points of view, relativity....
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27 February 2009 21:05:27(UTC)
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I would agree that no matter how helpful members try to be it is better to have the word from Marklin which gives us an accurate view.
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Now I have received, directly from Märklin, an email saying that. That then becomes official for me.
I've got my response two weeks before you - as well directly from Märklin. That was official for me already at that time. I also shared this official Märklin information with the forum then. Your information, not really anything new, just confirmed with substantial delay what was already known.
Einstein explained this: points of view, relativity....
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01 March 2009 00:24:51(UTC)
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<br />Only 1 year?
Just for those who don't have any clue about Märklin products and their warranty conditions.
What i know has Marklin only one year warranty at products.
With Lenz digitalsystem,you have 10 years warranty...!
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01 March 2009 01:24:11(UTC)
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The latest Digital Newsletter (1-09) had this to say about the v1.0.7 update.
"Software Update 1.0.7
At the time of the printing of this Newsletter, the 1.0.7 update was not yet ready but had been
available for a short time and then taken off the update webpage while some software bugs were
being fixed. When it is available again it will have a couple of updates including: 1) the English
keyboard will be fixed, 2) provisions will be available to add DCC controlled locomotives to your list,
and 3) loco icons will be able to be added to the picture list.
Adding loco icons is quite easy. First, create one or select one from a source like the web page
mentioned in the “Loco Cards†article given earlier. Second, include that loco as a “.png†file with an
appropriate name or number in a file folder titled “iconsâ€. Third, put that file on a USB memory stick
and install the icons the same way you would update the software of the Central Station with the
“Update†menu in the “Setup†screen."
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<br />With Lenz digitalsystem,you have 10 years warranty...!
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Goofy. I am not sure if this warranty applies to countries outside Germany. At some point I think they repalced decoders which were freid by the user but I expect with the cost of sound versions this no longer is available.
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The next update is Q2, Not April - Marklin.
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<br />Same or better functionality for less cost!
Hello,
you already have it??? How you know??
kind regards
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Stephan,
he doesn't, but that's not important anyways as the CS1 3.0 reloaded isn't the topic of this thread.
PS: The changed date is what I've been told too.
Stephan, as you and Lutz well know, I'm making that comment based on the ESU published specifications.
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<br />.....but that's not important anyways as the CS1 3.0 reloaded isn't the topic of this thread. [;)
Neither is a discussion relating to Portuguese versions of Marklin manuals.
So, what's your point
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14 March 2009 13:42:08(UTC)
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Stephen I thought April was quarter 2.
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<br />Stephen I thought April was quarter 2.
May or June.
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<br />Stephen I thought April was quarter 2.
Indeed it is, but also mai and june
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Yes Märklin could have resolved all the speculation that spins at various forums by creating a useful support forum on their own homepage.
Which themselves had been able to receive and respond to different problems.
Today you can get the most amazing solutions that answer if you send questions to their support center as the internal knowledge is probably no further.
Märklin is still owing me
€ 260
for a number of transportation cost to repair both CS1 and now CS2/booster but nobody wants to take responsibility for that "hot potato" question so they don’t answer. Is this a good customer relationship after 30years enjoying my hobby.
How much pain-time-money should we need sacrifice to get this product running?
What can you update with USB stick [:X] Oops! think what them can come up with these days ......
But WOW baby smell it burning? [B)] oh no it's just the smell of burned CS2 new for this year they celebrate 150years with knowledge..... you can order your own fire-extinguisher with Art No 60666
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Hello All:
So am I to understand that the CS2 update is now unavailable until May or June?
If so, then I for one, am going to return my CS2 for a refund. This inability to correct a software glitch is less than satisfactory.
They keep putting off the "fix". First it was supposed to be out in the new year, then they said it would be out out right after Nurnberg, then it it was April, now May or June. May or June of what year, 2011?
After 40+ years of using Marklin, I'm thinking it's time to switch to 2 rail. I'm sick and tired of all of the bulls**t coming out of Germany these days. Like a GM or Chrysler product, it's time to switch to a Toyota
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I will email to Marklin about next update, I will let you know after reply from M.
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Indeed it is, but also mai and june
Well - what does that mean - I'm not good at pictograms
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Means he agrees with Pål's post and gets the (hidden) meaning, and thinks it's rather cool!
Mai is German for May.
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Mai is German for May.
And also Norwegian actually
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Reply from Marklin.
Dear ## #######,
Thank you very much for your e-mail and your interest in our products. The next update for the Central Station 60213 should be available in the next four weeks at our server when connecting the Unit directly to the Internet.
Sincerely yours, Your Maerklin Customer Service
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Steven:
Thanks for that update, I just hope that this time it's really true [:(!]
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Could be April then which is Q2. But then again it only 'should' be available so maybe May or June and even Q3. Hopefully 2009.
Probably best to wait until it appears on the website and let somebody download first to ensure it actually works.
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Nice to hear Steven
Thank's for the information
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Any news from Marklin about next update next week?
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There is a thread where M says update is available on 22nd April.
This is very much their last chance to get things right.
If there is another delay or the update has bugs then sales of the CS2 will be badly hit. There are many waiting (some on this site) to see how things go before buying.
I find my CS2 to be an excellent controller and hope that the back up from Marklin will now be the same.
The new people now running the firm ... if any .. can now show us how good they are.
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24 hours to go to the update. !!
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Can only hope.
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Dont update it yet until someone update CS2 with 60173 booster see working OK.
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I promise not to be first out this time, because if something happens, the unit go out with the trash....
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I've read, with interest, this topic, and I find it interesting that Marklin have resorted to the selling skills of so many multi-national companies - i.e. you sell the product and then you iron out the bugs. Microsoft and Bill Gates has been doing this for over 20 years - and we still buy our computer operating systems. That's right - we buy the "fixed" version. Now, we want Marklin to give us for nothing the "fixed" updates. I'm just joking. I believe that we should be given the product that is advertised it will do, however, I've been dabbling in computers since 1969 and it has always fasinated me that someone like Bill Gates, can get away with what he has done. So, other businesses say to themselves, "If Bill can do it, why can't we"?
If computer software is involved, then it will never be resolved - it's all too complex for us mortals. My policy is - "If its working well enough, then that's good enough." Otherwise you'll go around the bend - afterall, we are only playing trains.
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Personally, I think it is odd that they would prefer to release an update together and wait out a show to get their own PR satisfied instead of the customers who have already purchased equipment since almost a year.
But that’s a greatness with Märklin because they newer have any direct dialogue with their customer [}:)]
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<br />Dont update it yet until someone update CS2 with 60173 booster see working OK.
yep, I'm sure the booster will work fine
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Is the update actually out?
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A reputation is the end of May, it will not include any DDC support
they know how to make money [}:)]
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