 Joined: 07/11/2023(UTC) Posts: 21 Location: Maryland, Baltimore
|
I am in the process of configuring the signal but confused by how to do it.
1:Out of the box the attached decoder has a brown and yellow wire combo connector attached. The instructions show that you need to attach this to the connectors on the CS. But then on the following step they show a red and brown cable coming out of the place where the yellow and brown was. Do I just replace the cable? (The connector with the red and brown cable come with the signal)
2:They tell you to keep the metal clamp on the decoder to program it, but they don't tell you if you should remove it after it is programmed.
Thanks.
|
|
|
|
|
|
 Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 3,563 Location: Paris, France
|
Hi On the older generation Marklin signal, there is a metal clamp to force programming mode Once finished programming, you turn the power off and remove the signal from its box You are now in operation mode Usually red and brown wires are for traction while yellow and brown are for signal control They are Simultaneously connected to the decoder See here page 19 https://static.maerklin....986852fcd91434542431.pdfCheers Jean |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: 07/11/2023(UTC) Posts: 21 Location: Maryland, Baltimore
|
Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB  Hi On the older generation Marklin signal, there is a metal clamp to force programming mode Once finished programming, you turn the power off and remove the signal from its box You are now in operation mode Usually red and brown wires are for traction while yellow and brown are for signal control They are Simultaneously connected to the decoder See here page 19 https://static.maerklin....986852fcd91434542431.pdfCheers Jean Merci Jean, from the instructions it seems that they use the yellow and brown for the non-digital and the red and brown for the digital. So, I guess I can just replace the connector with the yellow and brown with the connector with the red and brown. Philippe
|
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: 07/11/2023(UTC) Posts: 21 Location: Maryland, Baltimore
|
Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Hi On the older generation Marklin signal, there is a metal clamp to force programming mode Once finished programming, you turn the power off and remove the signal from its box You are now in operation mode Usually red and brown wires are for traction while yellow and brown are for signal control They are Simultaneously connected to the decoder See here page 19 https://static.maerklin....986852fcd91434542431.pdfCheers Jean For a couple of days I have tried to configure my signal. I connected the signal to my programming rail and added a signal in the CS3 ,with what I think is the correct type HP 0/1/2. Added an address and set the timing to 1000 ms. The signal is flashing the red, yellow and green light in sequence. I click on OK and nothing really happens. The signal continues to alternate red, yellow and green. I suspect it is still in programming mode and not operational mode. Do I have to remove the metal clamp to take it out of programming mode? How do I know I have correctly programed it? Thanks, Philippe
|
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 3,563 Location: Paris, France
|
Hello Philippe
Those signals are very different from todays signals. They are MM2-only (I think)
Signal in the box (with the programming shunt in place)
- after a power on, the signal listen during 30 seconds for the first order received (e.g. adress 125, protocol MM2) and it will store this in its memory
- after 30 seconds, the signal enters the demo mode (too late, try again)
Signal out of the box
- the signal will execute any orders that correspond to its set address.
So, how to program it easily?
- on your CS2, CS3, MS1, MS2 make sure you have already created the image for your signal
- when ready connect your signal with the shunt in place and power-up your CS.
- once the CS is active (STOP is off), command the signal at the address you have assigned to it IN LESS THAN 30 SECONDS
- push the STOP bar to make it light, remove the signal from its box. The programming is finished
Cheers
Jean |
|
 2 users liked this useful post by JohnjeanB
|
|
|
|
 Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,475 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot
|
Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Hello Philippe
Those signals are very different from todays signals. They are MM2-only (I think)
I think they are the earliest mfx signals, and need an update to work with the later mfx controllers. Do the signals have a red sticker on them that has a '2' or 'v2' on it? if not they need to go back to marklin to have the firmware updated.
|
1 user liked this useful post by kiwiAlan
|
|
|
|
Joined: 07/11/2023(UTC) Posts: 21 Location: Maryland, Baltimore
|
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Hello Philippe
Those signals are very different from todays signals. They are MM2-only (I think)
I think they are the earliest mfx signals, and need an update to work with the later mfx controllers. Do the signals have a red sticker on them that has a '2' or 'v2' on it? if not they need to go back to marklin to have the firmware updated. Alan, No, they do not have a sticker 2 or V2 on them. So, you are pretty sure they need to be updated by Marklin. As in Marklin in Germany, or can this be done by Marklin in the USA? Philippe
|
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: 07/11/2023(UTC) Posts: 21 Location: Maryland, Baltimore
|
Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Hello Philippe
Those signals are very different from todays signals. They are MM2-only (I think)
Signal in the box (with the programming shunt in place)
- after a power on, the signal listen during 30 seconds for the first order received (e.g. adress 125, protocol MM2) and it will store this in its memory
- after 30 seconds, the signal enters the demo mode (too late, try again)
Signal out of the box
- the signal will execute any orders that correspond to its set address.
So, how to program it easily?
- on your CS2, CS3, MS1, MS2 make sure you have already created the image for your signal
- when ready connect your signal with the shunt in place and power-up your CS.
- once the CS is active (STOP is off), command the signal at the address you have assigned to it IN LESS THAN 30 SECONDS
- push the STOP bar to make it light, remove the signal from its box. The programming is finished
Cheers
Jean Merci Jean, Let me try and see if I can be successful. I have taken the signal out of the box. Does it really need to be in the box to program. Can I just put it back in the box? Philippe
|
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 3,563 Location: Paris, France
|
Hi Philippe
Yes, they must be in the box with the shunt installed to program
No, they are MM2-only
Then you need to remove them to use and yes, you may leave them in the box for storage
Cheers
Jean |
|
1 user liked this useful post by JohnjeanB
|
|
|
|
Joined: 07/11/2023(UTC) Posts: 21 Location: Maryland, Baltimore
|
Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Hi Philippe
Yes, they must be in the box with the shunt installed to program
No, they are MM2-only
Then you need to remove them to use and yes, you may leave them in the box for storage
Cheers
Jean OK let me put it back in the box and see if I can program it. Philippe
|
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: 07/11/2023(UTC) Posts: 21 Location: Maryland, Baltimore
|
Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Hi Philippe
Yes, they must be in the box with the shunt installed to program
No, they are MM2-only
Then you need to remove them to use and yes, you may leave them in the box for storage
Cheers
Jean I put it in the box, made the configuration ahead of time. Turned on the power and made sure to access it within the 30 seconds and voila it works. Took off the shunt and I can operate it from the console. The only weird thing is that when I turn of the power to the rails and then the power back on the signal doesn't display a light until I click on it at least once. Otherwise, it functions correctly. Philippe
|
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 3,563 Location: Paris, France
|
Hi Philippe
These were the very first generation of high technology signals so there were a few bugs but not too bad.
Iam glad it worked for you
Jean |
|
1 user liked this useful post by JohnjeanB
|
|
|
|
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Crozet, Virginia
|
i'm glad it worked out Phillippe.
You are starting down the sometimes obscure road of setting up a piece of Marklin tech.
Configuring some Marklin tech is not very clear and can actually be convoluted, but when you get it right, it works perfectly.
Looks like you are off to a good start. |
Regards,
Jim
I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time. |
1 user liked this useful post by dickinsonj
|
|
|
|
Joined: 07/11/2023(UTC) Posts: 21 Location: Maryland, Baltimore
|
Originally Posted by: dickinsonj i'm glad it worked out Phillippe.
You are starting down the sometimes obscure road of setting up a piece of Marklin tech.
Configuring some Marklin tech is not very clear and can actually be convoluted, but when you get it right, it works perfectly.
Looks like you are off to a good start. Thanks, I find the Marklin instructions hard to follow sometimes. They always seem to omit steps or "how to" instructions. But with the help of people on the forum I was able to successfully program my signal. Now I need to install it on the track. Philippe
|
2 users liked this useful post by Flupke
|
|
|
|
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.
