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Offline husafreak  
#1 Posted : 06 February 2022 17:47:17(UTC)
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I'm on the fence with this one. I was going to pass but looking at the specs and its history in the Insider Club news has my attention. This thing is huge! 105mm over the buffers would make it far and away the longest loco on my layout. Plus it is one of a kind. I figured it would not impress on the track with its rather bland styling. But I do like massive loco's ;)
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Offline Zme  
#2 Posted : 06 February 2022 20:22:47(UTC)
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Hello hope all is well.

I do like this one, odd, but interesting. Almost like an enlarged 216. I am always considering a heaver weight locomotive. Seems this one would be great on hills. I see it has three axles on each truck. I wonder if all three are working. The larger truck would permit all of the gearing needed to accomplish this, but hard to say.

Does it mention the minimum radius for this model?

Take good care. let us know if you decide to make this purchase, your review would be helpful.

Dwight
Offline parakiet  
#3 Posted : 06 February 2022 20:24:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: husafreak Go to Quoted Post
I'm on the fence with this one. I was going to pass but looking at the specs and its history in the Insider Club news has my attention. This thing is huge! 105mm over the buffers would make it far and away the longest loco on my layout. Plus it is one of a kind. I figured it would not impress on the track with its rather bland styling. But I do like massive loco's ;)


I was a fan before it was released. I already thought about kitbashing BR216's..

Really loved that V320 release and didn't think twice to call my dealer!

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Offline Poor Skeleton  
#4 Posted : 06 February 2022 20:38:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zme Go to Quoted Post
Hello hope all is well.

I do like this one, odd, but interesting. Almost like an enlarged 216. I am always considering a heaver weight locomotive. Seems this one would be great on hills. I see it has three axles on each truck. I wonder if all three are working. The larger truck would permit all of the gearing needed to accomplish this, but hard to say.



I was quite excited to see this model announced, though I guess I'll have to wait for the "regular" version as I'm not a Marklin Club member. I expect it will be quite weighty (they even mention it in the blurb) and will have haulage to match. I very much doubt all three axles in each bogie/truck will be driven, though. Marklin seem to have abandoned that and I have my doubts that it does much for pulling power, though it probably does affect slow speed running detrimentally.

For sure not the prettiest of locos, but keen to get my hands on one nonetheless!

Cheers


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Offline parakiet  
#5 Posted : 06 February 2022 20:56:28(UTC)
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I'll have to wait for the "regular" version as I'm not a Marklin Club member.


Look around on eBay. Or perhaps someone wants to order it for you.
I don't have the membership, still I own a few Insiders..
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Offline Poor Skeleton  
#6 Posted : 06 February 2022 21:17:20(UTC)
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Look around on eBay. Or perhaps someone wants to order it for you.
I don't have the membership, still I own a few Insiders..


I suspect this will be quite a popular model, so not many to be had through "unofficial" routes, but I imagine I have at least a year to think about it, anyway!

Cheers


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Offline husafreak  
#7 Posted : 07 February 2022 00:55:57(UTC)
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Marklin says “two driven wheel sets per truck”. I do not see any mention of a minimum turning radius.
Apparently this will be coming with a long warranty.
I’m feeling that as a current insider I may as well get one. They are easily traded if I change my mind or don’t like it and it’s better to have them around than not ;)
Offline kiwiAlan  
#8 Posted : 07 February 2022 14:28:47(UTC)
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Apparently this will be coming with a long warranty.


All Insider models are considered to be MHI product, and as such have a 5 year warranty.

Chris, if you are really stuck I can get one for you.

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Offline Poor Skeleton  
#9 Posted : 07 February 2022 23:02:51(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: husafreak Go to Quoted Post

Apparently this will be coming with a long warranty.


All Insider models are considered to be MHI product, and as such have a 5 year warranty.

Chris, if you are really stuck I can get one for you.




Thanks Alan, that's a very kind offer - I might take you up on that!

All the best


Chris
Offline parakiet  
#10 Posted : 10 February 2022 22:27:31(UTC)
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Might? Oh boy! You should :P
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Offline Fluegelmeister  
#11 Posted : 11 May 2023 13:15:28(UTC)
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Did this locomotive launch yet? I've been waiting for it for over a year now. It was pushed to "Spring 2023" and now it's just part of the Marklin site. Has anyone received this locomotive? Thanks - Barry
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#12 Posted : 11 May 2023 14:42:06(UTC)
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Did this locomotive launch yet?
I don't know.
Current ETA list shows June 2023, so at least it is not yet out of production.

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Offline parakiet  
#13 Posted : 11 May 2023 19:19:01(UTC)
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It's even announced in another pack
https://www.marklin.nl/p..._torrpdb_pi1%5Blang%5D=2
06/2023 :)
Offline kiwiAlan  
#14 Posted : 11 May 2023 21:43:50(UTC)
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It's even announced in another pack
https://www.marklin.nl/p..._torrpdb_pi1%5Blang%5D=2
06/2023 :)


But that set has it in the Wiebe livery, not the original red livery that the 88320 is shown as having.

Offline Fluegelmeister  
#15 Posted : 12 May 2023 02:12:52(UTC)
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Yes, I contacted my dealer Z-Scale Hobo and he said June. I know there isn't a lot of excitement around this loco, but it fits perfectly into my 8910 Toporama!
Offline Zme  
#16 Posted : 12 May 2023 04:07:07(UTC)
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Hello. Hope all is well.

I just noticed this short paragraph concerning this locomotive in Trainini.

https://www.trainini.eu/...delivery-momentum-in-may

I am looking forward to the 81320 also.

Take good care.

Dwight
Offline parakiet  
#17 Posted : 12 May 2023 17:03:27(UTC)
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Some are already delivered to stores :)
Waiting on mine
Offline Poor Skeleton  
#18 Posted : 12 May 2023 20:58:28(UTC)
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Some are already delivered to stores :)
Waiting on mine


I really envious of those of you who will be receiving this model. I did consider joining the club just for this, but couldn't really justify the cost to myself. I suppose I'll have to console myself with 81320 when it comes out, but the loco does look much more handsome in the red livery!

I hope the model lives up to expectations for everyone!

Have a great weekend!



Chris

Offline Zme  
#19 Posted : 12 May 2023 23:12:17(UTC)
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Hello everyone, hope all is well.

I may be way off with this idea, but I have been told, there is always someone who will not be purchasing a certain model. Perhaps as a member, there is an entitlement to purchase all insider models, across all scales. Because of this, there is someone who’s is into the HO items who has no interest in purchasing a Z item. This persons membership (insider number)could then be used by another.

Your vendor would have to make this happen, if this is correct. I am testing this now, I pre-ordered the Insider ETA, and don’t have a membership.

Just a thought, perhaps a defective thought, but maybe worthy of consideration.

Take good care.

Dwight
Offline kiwiAlan  
#20 Posted : 12 May 2023 23:44:00(UTC)
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Hello everyone, hope all is well.

I may be way off with this idea, but I have been told, there is always someone who will not be purchasing a certain model. Perhaps as a member, there is an entitlement to purchase all insider models, across all scales. Because of this, there is someone who’s is into the HO items who has no interest in purchasing a Z item. This persons membership (insider number)could then be used by another.


I have a number of certificates for items where my dealer has done this. Because the certificates are sent out later the dealer just bundles all the ones with my name together without separating out ones for items I didn't order.

If you don't have one on order it is probably worth keeping an eye on Joes Modellbahn to see if he has any 'extra' when they come in. In fact it looks like they have just arrived, doesn't have a green dot beside it yet to show there is stock available, but give it a couple of days for him to sort out the orders and it is likely to appear.
Offline Zme  
#21 Posted : 13 May 2023 00:06:38(UTC)
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Hello again.

This might support my statement above, but I don’t have experience with the Marklin Insider club.

It is possible, Marklin just wants a member number and provides the product to the vendor. Where it goes after that is not a concern for them. Seems if a member item is not purchased by the holder, and thereafter goes to another purchaser, they still sell that item. From the viewpoint of Marklin, it is preferable to sell an item which would otherwise remain in inventory.

The member items still remain limited and desirable to some, but are of no interest to others.

Take good care.

Dwight

Offline parakiet  
#22 Posted : 13 May 2023 10:53:43(UTC)
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It is possible, Marklin just wants a member number and provides the product to the vendor. Where it goes after that is not a concern for them. Seems if a member item is not purchased by the holder, and thereafter goes to another purchaser, they still sell that item.



There are multiple possibilities:
- find a HO buddy and share the membership
- find a seller who sells even without the membership
- find a member who wants to give you the possibility to buy through him/her
- take a look on second hand (ebays etc)
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#23 Posted : 13 May 2023 15:48:55(UTC)
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From the viewpoint of Marklin, it is preferable to sell an item which would otherwise remain in inventory.


The Insider items are only made in the quantity that is ordered by 'members'. Some of these members may be phantom members registered by shops to increase the number of items they can order without having fully signed up members because they know they will be able to sell the items anyway.

Offline Zme  
#24 Posted : 14 May 2023 19:16:18(UTC)
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Hello everyone hope all is well.

Did someone wonder if the 88320 is out yet? Here is living proof courtesy from Rhein Wupper YouTube .

(two no less)

Looks fantastic. Take good care.

Dwight
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#25 Posted : 14 May 2023 20:28:27(UTC)
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Hello everyone hope all is well.

Did someone wonder if the 88320 is out yet?


My dealer contactee me. Ready for pickup! 🤩
Offline Zme  
#26 Posted : 18 May 2023 06:01:00(UTC)
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Hello, hope all is well.

Did you notice in the Märklin prototype discussion the V320 001 final stint before becoming a showpiece was as Wiebe #7 (320 001-1). That final overhaul might have been flawed.

I also find it interesting this model is about the same length as a Swiss Croc? That is a whole lot of locomotive. Wow!

Take good care. Enjoy that locomotive.

Dwight

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#27 Posted : 18 May 2023 17:03:48(UTC)
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Sooooo small update

Hopped in the Miata and went on my V320 mission.
A few accidents and heavy traffic forced me on to the B roads.
Luckily it's a nice spring day with blue sky and plenty of sun 🌞

About an hour later I picked up the V320 and was zooming on the highway back home.

Back home I took the time to take a closer look. She's detailed. Weights a fair bit and is quite long!
Money well spent 😉🤭

Offline Poor Skeleton  
#28 Posted : 18 May 2023 20:22:52(UTC)
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Did you notice in the Märklin prototype discussion the V320 001 final stint before becoming a showpiece was as Wiebe #7 (320 001-1). That final overhaul might have been flawed.



Hi Dwight,

Is that somewhere on this forum? Can you post a link?

Cheers


Chris
Offline Zme  
#29 Posted : 18 May 2023 21:12:47(UTC)
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Hello, hope all is well

I got this and there is more about this prototype on the Marklin site.

Here is the link: https://www.maerklin.de/...ts/details/article/88320

Just scroll down and click on the arrow to read Prototype Information.

Take good care, have a great evening.

Dwight
Offline Poor Skeleton  
#30 Posted : 18 May 2023 22:05:18(UTC)
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Hello, hope all is well

I got this and there is more about this prototype on the Marklin site.

Here is the link: https://www.maerklin.de/...ts/details/article/88320

Just scroll down and click on the arrow to read Prototype Information.

Take good care, have a great evening.

Dwight


All good here, thanks, hope everything is well with you, too.

Thanks very much for that - interesting reading!

I have also found this page relating to the prototype : https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henschel_DH_4000 which tells us that the loco originally ran (in the red livery) under V320 001 but was renumbered to 232 001 in 1968, so I am hoping Marklin will release a model of that road number available to non-members at some point. Having invested in the tooling it would seem silly not to release it in all it's guises. I wonder how long I'll have to wait?

Cheers


Chris

Offline Poor Skeleton  
#31 Posted : 18 May 2023 22:07:06(UTC)
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Back home I took the time to take a closer look. She's detailed. Weights a fair bit and is quite long!
Money well spent 😉🤭



Congratulations! Please do tell us about the running characteristics once you've had the loco on the track!

Cheers


Chris

Offline husafreak  
#32 Posted : 19 May 2023 05:00:37(UTC)
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Lucky you, now I’ll begin the countdown until my Insider delivery.
My Double Diesel posted in the mail to me today, it won’t be long now!
And yes, I miss my 1997 Miata, sold last winter :(
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Offline parakiet  
#33 Posted : 19 May 2023 17:05:11(UTC)
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Well I divide budget between photography/the mx5/trains.


With fuel getting more and more expensive and speed limits stricter... The trains collection grows and the car stays at home more.

Didn't yet put my test track up. But the look and feel make it clearly a winner.
Offline Poor Skeleton  
#34 Posted : 21 May 2023 23:50:38(UTC)
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Didn't yet put my test track up. But the look and feel make it clearly a winner.


If you could put it on a set of scales and let me know its weight, I'd really love to add it t my database of such things!


Cheers


Chris

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#35 Posted : 22 May 2023 08:33:48(UTC)
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Here it weights 47 gram !
Offline Poor Skeleton  
#36 Posted : 22 May 2023 22:14:18(UTC)
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Here it weights 47 gram !



That's pretty impressive! Thanks for letting me know!

Cheers


Chris
Offline H0  
#37 Posted : 22 May 2023 22:25:23(UTC)
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Did you notice in the Märklin prototype discussion the V320 001 final stint before becoming a showpiece was as Wiebe #7 (320 001-1). That final overhaul might have been flawed.
What gives you that idea?
Locos need a schedule overhaul every 8 years.

It was overhauled for use with Wiebe in 2000. So there must have been another schedule overhaul in 2008.
In 2015 an axle bearing had a damage and caught fire and they decided the loco wasn't worth repairing and paying for another schedule overhaul in 2016.

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Offline Zme  
#38 Posted : 23 May 2023 06:54:16(UTC)
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Thanks Tom.

You are right it may not have been a flawed overhaul. Maybe the bearing just failed, and a fire to go with it, caused damage not worth fixing.

The work done by Wiebe creates a somewhat harsh environment for their equipment. I would think it possible that overhauls come around more often considering this. Routine maintenance becomes critical for certain.

We may never know what truly caused the removal of this locomotive from service.

It must have been amazing to see this locomotive in action.

Take good care. It is interesting, according to Chris’ listing the BR 232 weighs more than this one. Could be the metal impregnated shell.

Dwight
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#39 Posted : 23 May 2023 20:26:32(UTC)
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Take good care. It is interesting, according to Chris’ listing the BR 232 weighs more than this one. Could be the metal impregnated shell.

Dwight


I noticed that when I was adding 88320 to my list.

Funnily enough I was running my BR 232s at the weekend. I think I had my 88132 (34g) loaded up with 8 or 9 bogie coaches and was surprised to find 88136 (54g) could only manage one more, which surprised me given the difference in weight.

Cheers


Chris

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Offline Poor Skeleton  
#40 Posted : 04 June 2023 21:30:45(UTC)
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Well, I think I have an 88320 on it's way, courtesy of ebay. It's not with me yet, so it could go wrong, but nothing at this stage to suggest it's a dodgy seller.

I was disappointed when it looked like I'd miss out on this model, so I'm feeling very happy about this!

(Oh and also have 88697 (BR212) on order with my local dealer!)

Cheers!


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Offline Zme  
#41 Posted : 05 June 2023 02:41:24(UTC)
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Hello, hope all is well.

Great you got one!

I will be interested in how this model does on hills. It has a long distance between the front and rear bogies. I don’t think this will help, but I might be surprised.

Take good care. That 212 is a good medium locomotive, I have the 88690, the first blue one released and it has been a good one.

Dwight
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#42 Posted : 05 June 2023 14:11:28(UTC)
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I will be interested in how this model does on hills. It has a long distance between the front and rear bogies. I don’t think this will help, but I might be surprised.

Take good care. That 212 is a good medium locomotive, I have the 88690, the first blue one released and it has been a good one.

Dwight


Hi Dwight,

Hope everything is good with you too!

Rest assured I'll be posting a full report when I receive the model. Neither of my layouts have much level track so how a loco performs on a gradient is always of interest to me! I will be interesting to see how it compares to my (plastic and metal impregnated plastic bodied) Ludmillas. I don't have any theories about how bogie spacing affects haulage so it will be interesting to see how that pans out!

Cheers


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Offline parakiet  
#43 Posted : 07 June 2023 11:29:22(UTC)
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the yellow one has been spotted in the wild too!
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#44 Posted : 07 June 2023 13:15:40(UTC)
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the yellow one has been spotted in the wild too!


yes, I see it listed on Joes Modellbahn.

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#45 Posted : 07 June 2023 19:28:21(UTC)
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Hello, hope all is well.

Yellow!!?? I gotta have one of those!

Take good care.

Dwight
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#46 Posted : 07 June 2023 22:39:25(UTC)
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Yellow!!?? I gotta have one of those!



I generally like the rail maintenance sets but I think the loco looks so much more handsome in red!

Cheers


Chris

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#47 Posted : 08 June 2023 22:01:52(UTC)
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My 88320 arrived today. First impressions are very good - excellent detail and a nice runner - smooth and with good slow speed control.

I think other people have commented that the engine room lighting is a bit bright - very much so at high speed - so I might try and tone that down with a piece of tracing paper or somesuch. My only other gripe would be with the contacts which bring power from the bogies to the body which are bright silver and quite obtrusive. I might try and touch in a bit of black paint to hide them a bit.

Whilst it's a very long locomotive, it's also quite slender and looks almost t a different scale that other locomotives.

Here it is next to 88136

IMG_3790.JPG

And here it is next to 88203

IMG_3791.JPG

In case anyone is interested, here are a couple of videos of the loco in action

88320_1.mp4 (16,021kb) downloaded 22 time(s).

88320_2.mp4 (10,015kb) downloaded 20 time(s).

In terms of haulage, it could manage 7 bogie coaches around my small layout with little or no wheelslip, but 8 was too much for it. Meanwhile my trusty 88132 could manage 8 with a bit of wheelslip or 9 with a lot, but it still got round eventually. For all its extra weight 88136 could only manage 10, again with an awful lot of wheelslip. I've speculated before whether the grip improves as the wheels are used and get polished up a bit.




Hope this is of interest


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#48 Posted : 10 June 2023 15:17:06(UTC)
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To follow up, here are before and after pictures of the bit of contact strip I was talking about :

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Hoe this is of interest!


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Offline Zme  
#49 Posted : 10 June 2023 19:36:01(UTC)
Zme

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Location: West Texas
Hello, hope all is well.

Those are great videos, appreciate you sharing them. You sure do get your mail quickly over there, seems you told us about your purchase just a day or two ago.

I am partial to the yellow Wiebe locomotive, and I am certain it will perform in the same way as your 88320. It is impressive in the red DB scheme, I agree.

I recall a while back watching a Youtube of the Weibe operations and two locomotives were shown almost side by side. Anyway, at first glance, I mistakenly thought these two diesels were a BR 218 and the other a BR 216. I didn't realize until later that I was actually looking at the 320 and a 218. The best I can describe the 320, is to say, it looks like a 216 but stretched out. At the time, I did not know that the 320 is as long at our Swiss Croc.

I have several of the Weibe locomotives and wagons, and was interested in the 81320 set more because of its association to this firm. A bonus would have been for it to be a good puller, but from your evaluation, it seems it is not better that the 232. Most Wiebe wagons are lightweight two axle wagons but a few are the four axle ones. I believe, the 320 will be able to pull all of my Wiebe wagons without issue, but I will have to wait to see. The flat wagons in this set are four axle and made of metal, making them very heavy. It might be a challenge, for sure.

I agree, that contacts should be hidden a bit from the factory. It is strange, it seemed the contacts were coming out blackened from the factory just a short while ago. Now, blackening is perhaps a cost cutting omission and we must take care of this ourselves.

I was interested in the interior light on this locomotive and expected it would have been a feature on the 232 but wasn't. I would hope the bright light could be tamed a bit. Let us know how your solution works. The gauge I use is does the light come thru the shell when it should just come thru the windows or lenses. Coming thru the shell itself is definitely not good. I have used black paper to prevent lights coming thru the walls of my buildings. Perhaps this will work on this loco too or I might use that liquid/paste material which I have previously mentioned. This can be painted on and it will cut down the light or change the color too.

I know there were some notices concerning the 320 before its release and now there are some comments like this on the Wiebe loco. Trainini had this update:

https://www.trainini.eu/...with-v-320-on-the-market

It seems you are overall satisfied with this locomotive, glad to hear. An Insider model is more rare than the standard issue item and is a great addition to your collection.

Thank you for your report. I appreciate it.

Take good care.

Dwight


Offline Poor Skeleton  
#50 Posted : 10 June 2023 22:24:11(UTC)
Poor Skeleton

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Joined: 09/10/2015(UTC)
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Location: England, Cambridge
Originally Posted by: Zme Go to Quoted Post
Hello, hope all is well.

Those are great videos, appreciate you sharing them. You sure do get your mail quickly over there, seems you told us about your purchase just a day or two ago.


I hate to say this but US mail does seem terrible! It's unusual for things to take more than two weeks in Europe (and that seems to be true even now we in the UK are out of the EU). My experience of getting stuff from the US is that it can easily take that amount of time just to get the package to the shipping airport! I've also received packages intended for other recipients and vice versa. Whenever I see something is being shipped by USPS my heart sinks!

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I have several of the Weibe locomotives and wagons, and was interested in the 81320 set more because of its association to this firm. A bonus would have been for it to be a good puller, but from your evaluation, it seems it is not better that the 232. Most Wiebe wagons are lightweight two axle wagons but a few are the four axle ones. I believe, the 320 will be able to pull all of my Wiebe wagons without issue, but I will have to wait to see. The flat wagons in this set are four axle and made of metal, making them very heavy. It might be a challenge, for sure.


Today I had the loco pulling seven bogie stake wagons without flinching, so it's clearly a very capable locomotive! I don't understand why my 88132 pulls so well - it weights a lot less than 88320. Maybe that's some compensation for the fact that it otherwise runs like a dog!

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I agree, that contacts should be hidden a bit from the factory. It is strange, it seemed the contacts were coming out blackened from the factory just a short while ago. Now, blackening is perhaps a cost cutting omission and we must take care of this ourselves.


I don't know the politics at play, but this is clearly not a Marklin loco in the established sense. Made in China, I suspect and using very different techniques and design philosophy for the other models I have. It took less than five minutes to paint those contacts black - that's a fair investment in an otherwise excellent model!

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I was interested in the interior light on this locomotive and expected it would have been a feature on the 232 but wasn't. I would hope the bright light could be tamed a bit. Let us know how your solution works. The gauge I use is does the light come thru the shell when it should just come thru the windows or lenses. Coming thru the shell itself is definitely not good. I have used black paper to prevent lights coming thru the walls of my buildings. Perhaps this will work on this loco too or I might use that liquid/paste material which I have previously mentioned. This can be painted on and it will cut down the light or change the color too.


There's no light shining through the body shell I just feel that the roof "windows" are lit up a bit too brightly. The tracing paper didn't work but I stuck in a bit of self-adhesive black foam which has helped a lot. The lighting doesn't really kick in until the loco's going a fair pace and that doesn't help!

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It seems you are overall satisfied with this locomotive, glad to hear. An Insider model is more rare than the standard issue item and is a great addition to your collection.


I am extremely happy with my purchase! Today I had it crawling round the layout on the first setting of the Marklin controller - really impressive!


Cheers


Chris
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