 Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,227 Location: Montreal, QC
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I had the idea of using yellow LED strips in the smoking section of my 60s and 70s coaches and bright white for the non-smoker's section
I know that repeated smoke would have yellowed the light covers, but I don't know if it would be that visible from outside.
What do you think about this idea?
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Mike C
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 Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,453 Location: Scotland
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Good idea Mike but there is quite a difference between the white and yellow LEDs and not sure if smoke would make that difference. You could try on one coach to see the results. I have seen warm white and yellow LEDs where the difference is not as much. Think they came in a LED strip but I forget the manufacturer.
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 Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Crozet, Virginia
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I think it would make a difference and not just from the smoke staining the lights. At that time the air was often dark with smoke in many public spaces and that haze filters out a lot of light and changes colors.. I think the idea is brilliant.  |
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 Joined: 26/07/2021(UTC) Posts: 635 Location: Sydney
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I agree as above. The yellow LED will just look too yellow. Just get a Rosco gel swatch book and add a gel or 2 over the light to change colour temperature. It will also drop light output a bit as well. https://www.bhphotovideo..._Cinegel_Swatchbook.htmlhttps://www.bhphotovideo...els/ci/1329/N/3662541030I think Rosco 3443 Quarter Straw (Mired shift +42, transmission 81%) or 3409 Roscosun (also, Mired shift +42, transmission 81%) would be a better colour. It's leaning a bit more to a coffee colour (I once cleaned the walls of an office from decades of smoking (not me)). 
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Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square
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Mike, wouldn't it be quicker and easier, you just exhale the cigarette smoke onto the Led's and see if it makes any difference and what colour you finish up with, I wonder if it works more effectivly with a cigar, if you are a none smoker just walk onto the street and ask a walking by person who is a smoker.,
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Joined: 25/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 945 Location: Sydney, NSW
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Hi Mike/All, I had this dilemma and experimented with white and yellow LEDs. See articles below. LED Light ChoiceLED TintingLinks updated 30-12-2024 Originally Posted by: mike c  I had the idea of using yellow LED strips in the smoking section of my 60s and 70s coaches and bright white for the non-smoker's section
I know that repeated smoke would have yellowed the light covers, but I don't know if it would be that visible from outside.
What do you think about this idea?
Regards
Mike C Edited by user 30 December 2024 23:19:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Ross Hi Mike/All, I had this dilemma and experimented with white and yellow LEDs. See article below. LED Light Choice Interesting comparison Ross. I have both of these lighting kits, and have been fitting them on the basis of warm white/yellow for older trains to represent tungsten lamps, and cool white for newer coaches that would have been fitted with fluorescent lighting. I wonder if the first class sections of the coaches you are showing would in real life have used fluorescent lighting?
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 Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 3,563 Location: Paris, France
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Hi Mike I suppose the choice is more between cold white and warm white which you can find easily (5 m rolls with self adhesive) I have noticed that what is critical for the ambiance is the painting of the interior decoration and the selected colors have a tremendous impact on the looks Here are some Märklin coatches that are using warm white LEDs strings The car in the front is standard Märklin lighting  Note: some stained glass paints (Vitrail by Pebeo) allow fun effects I also use special LEDs for Xmas with integrated IC and light change for adverts Cheers Jean |
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Joined: 25/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 945 Location: Sydney, NSW
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Hi Alan, I would never use the Marklin yellow LED lights again because once you put passengers into the coaches with yellow lights they all take on a murky dull look. I have started to use clear acrylic paints more to change the colour balance of the light output and I also dim the lights so they are less bright. Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: Ross Hi Mike/All, I had this dilemma and experimented with white and yellow LEDs. See article below. LED Light Choice Interesting comparison Ross. I have both of these lighting kits, and have been fitting them on the basis of warm white/yellow for older trains to represent tungsten lamps, and cool white for newer coaches that would have been fitted with fluorescent lighting. I wonder if the first class sections of the coaches you are showing would in real life have used fluorescent lighting? Edited by user 02 January 2025 01:33:30(UTC)
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Joined: 25/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 945 Location: Sydney, NSW
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Hi Jean,
Nice LED lighting with the warm white LEDs Looks good. |
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Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,892 Location: Michigan, Troy
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White interior reflects more and enhances the white. Soft yellow is better for them. Cool or soft white better for grey or black interior.
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I use warm white leds for all lights and add a dab of white acrylic paint to `age` the light. |
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 Joined: 28/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 303 Location: Torino,
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Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB
I also use special LEDs for Xmas with integrated IC and light change for adverts
Neopixels WS2812 ?
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Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 3,563 Location: Paris, France
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No, it comes from a Xmas lighting kit where each diode (smaller then old-style diodes) changes progressively colours (Yellow, Blue Red combilation) and powered with a 12 VDC
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