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Offline MarcelV  
#1 Posted : 27 January 2023 22:50:18(UTC)
MarcelV

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Roco introduced in their 2023 Neuheiten an NS Dutch Railroad 2200 diesel. It is article 52934. But they also released in recent years the 2200 Diesel loc under 55903. The latter one has MFX, but the new one is referencing it as a radioloc. Can someone explain to me the difference between the two? I like to order one or the other, but it’s not clear to me what the difference is (besides the road number). But there is a decent gap in cost. Even that both have sound. Anyone here to explain the difference?

Thanks,

Marcel

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Offline rhfil  
#2 Posted : 28 January 2023 00:37:05(UTC)
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Check out the descriptions at AJC Kids https://ajckids.com/ of the Piko locos with those numbers.
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Offline MarcelV  
#3 Posted : 28 January 2023 01:19:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: rhfil Go to Quoted Post
Check out the descriptions at AJC Kids https://ajckids.com/ of the Piko locos with those numbers.

I did that before posting. But that didn’t make it more clear. Same as on the pike.de website. If clear, I probably wouldn’t have posed the question. The new one is defined as a radioloc. I assume that those were the ones that could be controlled without an engineer on board. But those have numbers above the 2350 while the pic show a 2268. Hence my confusion. The older one is MFX and the newer one doesn’t mention that so maybe that’s the price difference.
Offline marklinist5999  
#4 Posted : 28 January 2023 14:07:30(UTC)
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I thin new Zimo/Roco sound decoders are mfx, like ESU are. Look at the Roco new items descriptions to see of they list the decoder in the model, then research that decoder on the Zimo decoder manual site.
Offline mario54i  
#5 Posted : 28 January 2023 14:23:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: MarcelV Go to Quoted Post

The new one is defined as a radioloc. I assume that those were the ones that could be controlled without an engineer on board. But those have numbers above the 2350 while the pic show a 2268. Hence my confusion.


Remotely controlled NS 2260 from Wikipedia
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Offline MarcelV  
#6 Posted : 28 January 2023 15:08:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mario54i Go to Quoted Post

Thanks for this link. Very useful. Also found out that one of the differences between the 2 Piko models is that one is an Expert Plus model and has digital couplers. The new model seems to lack those.
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Offline marklinist5999  
#7 Posted : 28 January 2023 16:15:02(UTC)
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What's confusing for me anyway about the remote control description is that every model is. The prototype has no human driver.
Offline MarcelV  
#8 Posted : 28 January 2023 17:04:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Go to Quoted Post
What's confusing for me anyway about the remote control description is that every model is. The prototype has no human driver.

Not all were. Here is a link to a good article about their history. Warning: in dutch…. :)
Loc 2200 series (in Dutch)
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Offline KNed_  
#9 Posted : 01 February 2023 10:16:21(UTC)
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For the first Piko 2200 models they used ESU decoders. Now they are using their own brand decoders (bad choice, ESU is way better). Maybe that explains costs difference?

For all Piko 2200 models see my website: http://www.nlinmodel.nl/piko/2200_2300 (in Dutch)
Dutch railway models database: www.nlinmodel.nl
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