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Last time to upgrade CS3 was April month. Do Märklin plan change program in the system? |
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Time for Goofy to write "CS 4 is coming soon"?!?!?!? |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS  |
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Originally Posted by: H0  Time for Goofy to write "CS 4 is coming soon"?!?!?!? What the f*** are you writing about? I did wrote about program in the CS3. |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Last time to upgrade CS3 was April month. Do Märklin plan change program in the system? Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: H0 Time for Goofy to write "CS 4 is coming soon"?!?!?!? What the f*** are you writing about? I did wrote about program in the CS3. To answer in the same manner as you reply to H0: How the f*** do you expect anyone to know when Märklin plan to update the system?
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Folks, please avoid the 'F***' (word), we are all friends here after all. I realise Goofy that H0 might be trying to wind you up (Yes, I know I'm also guilty of that) but there's no need to respond that way.
Please don't tell me there's a CS4 in the works......!
In the words of Maverick, "OK, I won't tell you that...."
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Hi
In all probability, Märklin is working on next generation's Central Station (average life expectancy 8 years) and the CS3 was introduced in 2016 (6 years old). So the next one is due in 2 years time. Also a replacement for the MS2 is long over-due.
I suppose the next generation CS will NOT look like the CS2 or the CS3.
I don't know plenty of things: how will it look like? Possibly without a screen? Probably including train-following features like Rocrail, etc?
I find this guesswork funny. For Märklin, it is not! It is rather a perilous industrial gambling (but you are the market leader or you are not).
Back to the CS3 and its updates. Seems to me the present version is pretty stable so making functional additions is a serious gamble so we may have to wait a little more.
Even the new sleek double sleep switch does not call for an Update.
Cheers
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I imagine the next update will be when the cordless handset, that we know Marklin is working on, comes out. So if the handset is formally announced in the NI due in January, then I suspect that will announce a requirement for a cs2/3 update that will be available in time for delivery of the handset.
I covered some aspects of this sometime over the past year, but I can't find the thread it was in now. but it does show people have short memories.
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Originally Posted by: Purellum I believe he read about it on Stummi in January 2017 Rubbish is still Rubbish, even after all this time!
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan I imagine the next update will be when the cordless handset, that we know Marklin is working on, comes out. So if the handset is formally announced in the NI due in January, then I suspect that will announce a requirement for a cs2/3 update that will be available in time for delivery of the handset.
I covered some aspects of this sometime over the past year, but I can't find the thread it was in now. but it does show people have short memories.
I found the posting where I discussed the likely delivery of the new wireless handset.
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Trix new digital locomotives do have now RailCom and Märklin did talked about to add RailCom into system too.
Not sure if this will be happens into 2023.
I believe there is reason of why nothing happens with the upgrades yet. |
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But jesus, start using the mobile phone instead of asking for more wireless crap for the planet and especially Märklin can't handle more  Märklin can try to show that they can support what they already have, especially translate and develop better functions of the software. It would be best if all manufacturers adhered to a digital standard, so we don't have to buy everything and load the planet. I have always appreciated and preferred ESU but since it cannot support "simple" questions, I switch more and more went to Zimo decoder when they respond nicely and good answers.... |
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Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm But jesus, start using the mobile phone instead of asking for more wireless crap for the planet and especially Märklin can't handle more Märklin can try to show that they can support what they already have, especially translate and develop better functions of the software. It would be best if all manufacturers adhered to a digital standard, so we don't have to buy everything and load the planet. I have always appreciated and preferred ESU but since it cannot support "simple" questions, I switch more and more went to Zimo decoder when they respond nicely and good answers.... In short: Save the planet. Buy more phones! I would love an affordable wireless controller with knobs and buttons and a small screen.
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Originally Posted by: Copenhagen In short: Save the planet. Buy more phones! Buy this and get a Märklin stickers then you don't need geting a phone and wish that Märklin should make  |
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"Buy a Lodi-Con"...
You don't see the irony/hypocrisy?
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It will never be any wifi product from Märklin they had already say that, too complicated and expensive  |
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WiFi is already a possibility with Märklin as far as I know.
But it's not just simple plug and play. You have to connect to a network - probably invest in a router or other form of link and then fiddle with different settings on several devices.
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Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm It will never be any wifi product from Märklin they had already say that, too complicated and expensive have you seen this ? (it's delayed, as with everything else)
https://www.maerklin.de/...regler_55017_WebNews.pdfPersonally, I prefer a dedicated device over some unstable app that needs an update because apple/google decided that they needed to be more "innovative" again.
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RC3 total crazy idea too far expensive when there are cheaper solutions such as an app on a phone... Was some complaint about costs to produce slim crossover gears so way spending on a MS3 with wifi... As my father says before Christmas, shit in one hand and wish in the other and you'll see what you get the most out of |
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Originally Posted by: bph have you seen this ? (it's delayed, as with everything else) That device has been cancelled by Marklin (see the post above Alan refers to). Marklin are supposedly developing a wireless version of the MS2, but no announcements have been made as yet.
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Originally Posted by: bph In this document, Märklin say they are developing a wireless controller with the look and feel of the MS2. Presentation is planned for Q3/2021, delivery is planned for Q2/2022. Introductory price will be €199 and a CS2 or CS3 is required. Since we already have Q4/2022, we should wait with baited breath until we finally see the presentation of the new controller. Maybe next month. Maybe next year. Or the other year. Or never. |
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: bph have you seen this ? (it's delayed, as with everything else) That device has been cancelled by Marklin (see the post above Alan refers to). Marklin are supposedly developing a wireless version of the MS2, but no announcements have been made as yet. A translation of the document where the rc3 is cancelled and the development of the MS2 Wifi is announced: (i believe it has been posted on the forum before, and kiwiAlan has made references to it) Information about the Märklin / Trix / LGB radio handset control 55017
The RC3 radio handset control L55017 and RC3 radio receiver L55057 which were introduced some time ago
are expected by many customers. With our cooperation partner, we were aiming for delivery before the
before the end of 2020.
Unfortunately, we have to inform you that we are withdrawing the two RC3 articles from our product range. The
prototypes submitted by our partner do not meet the requirements. We have
therefore decided not to pursue the envisaged solution any further.
The desire for a radio-based operating device remains unchanged, so we have decided to immediately
decided to immediately initiate our own development.
The envisaged new radio control unit will be based on the familiar operating philosophy of our successful
philosophy of our successful Mobile Station 2 as a radio-based, wireless control unit. The
control will be implemented with software based on WLAN and will be compatible with many other products of the
Märklin / TRIX / LGB world.
By using WLAN, several participants in the same WLAN network can control the model railway.
control the model railway. This promises great, joint playing fun. The network capability allows
perfect interaction with other network-compatible products from the Märklin / TRIX / LGB
environment. An additional RC3 receiver (L55057) is not required for this solution.
a CS2 or CS3 as receiver and control centre must be available. The
integration of older LGB operating devices such as the speed controller (L51079) for analogue operation is not possible.
not possible with this new technology.
The fundamental new design allows the use of a modern processor with reserves for future extensions.
for future extensions. Modern development tools allow us an advanced
further development. This means for you:
Like all Märklin command stations and control units, the radio control unit is also updateable. This
guarantees you a long service life.
And the best: We will offer the new control unit at an introductory price of € 199.
(recommended retail price).
We are working flat out on the new development and ask for your understanding of the additional delay.
delay and thank you in advance for your patience. A presentation is planned for the
We plan to present it in the 3rd quarter of 2021 and to deliver it in the 2nd quarter of 2022.
We take the liberty of cancelling your existing orders for L55017. The radio receiver L55057
will also be cancelled without replacement, as it will no longer be necessary for the future.
We will contact you directly in due course via your sales consultant with detailed information. Does the new MS2 Wifi require a software update on the CS2/3 ? I don't know, but if it does (i guess it does), it is something that we can expect in an upcoming update. there are also some minor bugs in the current software, so we can expect an update. As for a possible future CS4 ?, it's probably delayed well into the future......
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan I imagine the next update will be when the cordless handset, that we know Marklin is working on, comes out. So if the handset is formally announced in the NI due in January, then I suspect that will announce a requirement for a cs2/3 update that will be available in time for delivery of the handset.
I covered some aspects of this sometime over the past year, but I can't find the thread it was in now. but it does show people have short memories.
Why a cordless handset / We have all a mobil … But an “item” where the mobil could be in, and then on one side a not to regulate the speed and on the other side to pick up a new train …. |
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H0 / Märklin K track / CS3+ / full digital / Epoke III +/- |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Last time to upgrade CS3 was April month. Do Märklin plan change program in the system? There is a software update coming to the CS3 "soon".(sorry dont have any more information)
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I'm certain that we will read on this forum when M releases the next update.
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