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Offline ocram63_uk  
#1 Posted : 31 August 2022 08:04:19(UTC)
ocram63_uk

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Good morning, I have a problem with this start set. I bought it at a 'real' auction and unfortunately I didn't go and see the item before bidding.
One of the wheel flanges on a wheel is broken.
Anyway, the loco is a BR 81 with a Delta decooder. I cleaned it all with WD-40 as it had been lubed with something called 'electrolube' which made it a bit stiff.
Now all gears and wheels move much better. I tried to look for spare parts on Marklin's website page for the start set but it doesn't load.
Does anybody know which item number the loco actually is so that I can try to find the spare wheel / axle ?

I'm attaching the photo of the wheel just to show what some people can do :-(

wheel.jpeg

Now, I wonder which 'animal' managed to do this unless it was defective from 'birth'.

Thank you
Marco
Offline Dave Banks  
#2 Posted : 31 August 2022 11:12:51(UTC)
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Offline ocram63_uk  
#3 Posted : 31 August 2022 13:29:53(UTC)
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Hi Dave, thank you for the diagram but my loco is Delta without the permanent magnet. Plus I haven't found the item number for the wheels in the part list.
The ebay seller doesn't ship to UK and the wheels he proposes are not the correct ones. Sigh!
Offline kiwiAlan  
#4 Posted : 31 August 2022 13:42:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ocram63_uk Go to Quoted Post
Hi Dave, thank you for the diagram but my loco is Delta without the permanent magnet. Plus I haven't found the item number for the wheels in the part list.
The ebay seller doesn't ship to UK and the wheels he proposes are not the correct ones. Sigh!


I would drop an email to Marklin Service, and include the photo. I'm sure they will come up with a replacement part number. Tell them you have looked at the parts list for the 30322 as well, but it doesn't list the part number for the wheels.

Even though the parts list Dave linked to shows a permanent magnet on the motor, it also seems to show a Delta decoder. I suspect that loco is the same basic chassis as yours, judging by its catalogue number. It does seem strange they don't call out the wheels as a part.
Offline ocram63_uk  
#5 Posted : 31 August 2022 15:57:25(UTC)
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Hi KiwiAlan, thank you for your input. I'll write Marklin although, if it works like last time I wrote them, I'll get a reply by 2023 😊
Offline bph  
#6 Posted : 31 August 2022 16:54:08(UTC)
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Offline ocram63_uk  
#7 Posted : 31 August 2022 23:21:38(UTC)
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Hi bph, thank you for the links. The Dutch link is useful. the first one I already have and I got the spare number of the wheel but isn't available as far as I could search for on ebay.de or official Marklin repair shops. I wrote Marklin and now I wait to see what they come up with. Worst case scenario I'll have to find a wreck of a similar loco and get the wheel I need. Thank you
Marco
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Offline ocram63_uk  
#8 Posted : 01 September 2022 11:05:01(UTC)
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While waiting for things to proceed I put down some tracks to see how the engine rolls and actually there is nothing of note in it running, I only pushed it as I've still got to reassemble the motor after cleaning it. Yes the loco doesn't wobble nor runs with a limp. So probably it isn't something that is going to make it impossible to run. Lets see what Marklin comes back with.
Offline ocram63_uk  
#9 Posted : 01 September 2022 11:47:46(UTC)
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Marklin replied, they have no spares and nothing to use as an alternative so they can't be of any help. Didn't expect this from Marklin. Anyway the loco runs fine just the same. I'll browse the internet and dealers to see if they have any available somewhere 😊
Offline kiwiAlan  
#10 Posted : 01 September 2022 21:02:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ocram63_uk Go to Quoted Post
Marklin replied, they have no spares and nothing to use as an alternative so they can't be of any help. Didn't expect this from Marklin. Anyway the loco runs fine just the same. I'll browse the internet and dealers to see if they have any available somewhere 😊


Then try Ritter Restorations. I don't have the link handy, but the link has been given on this forum a number of times.

Offline ocram63_uk  
#11 Posted : 01 September 2022 22:14:46(UTC)
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Hi KA, good idea. I might have him in my bookmarks and I'll contact him
Offline Dave Banks  
#12 Posted : 03 September 2022 21:39:25(UTC)
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Try this chap. I know this not the wheel your looking for but he is your most likely source to get one:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/19203530...stomid=&toolid=10050
D.A.Banks
Offline ocram63_uk  
#13 Posted : 05 September 2022 10:16:59(UTC)
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I was looking at the dutch website posted by BPH, and as my loco number is "81 010" I desume that the actual model number is a 3032.5, so a pre year 2000 model.
I'll ask the Italian seller if he has an available wheel.
Thank you
Offline cookee_nz  
#14 Posted : 05 September 2022 11:16:19(UTC)
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Damage like that is quite possible from being dropped, and not necessarily from a great height, just depends how it lands.

Could have happened any time unfortunately, even someone inspecting it at the auction - woops!

But of a pain though, and of course, as usual with many auctions, sold as-is, buyers risk.

Good luck finding the wheel.
Cookee
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Offline ocram63_uk  
#15 Posted : 06 September 2022 18:06:55(UTC)
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I have ordered a 60906 decoder to replace the Delta.
Update when installed.
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Offline ocram63_uk  
#16 Posted : 09 September 2022 21:31:43(UTC)
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managed to find the wheel on the Italian ebay site. Should be here by next week. Now I have to find who can fix the locomotive. I can't possibly do it by myself as I wouldn't know how to 🙄
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Offline ocram63_uk  
#17 Posted : 17 September 2022 20:41:41(UTC)
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popped into my local train shop to ask if they had the means to re-assemble the axle and wheel and be willing to pay. They told me to buy a vice and do it myself, it would be quicker and easier. Really? I mean this is a shocker to me. They sell Hornby stuff and I was hooing they could do general maintenance. NOT!!
A bit frustrated on where these hobby is headed towards, nothingness!!!!
Offline Carim  
#18 Posted : 18 September 2022 13:10:14(UTC)
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Perhaps contact a model railway club in your area - they might know someone who could do it for you.

Carim
Offline ocram63_uk  
#19 Posted : 24 September 2022 11:42:12(UTC)
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going to meeting with railway group next week. Apparently of the people I have asked on how/where can I get the wheel replaced everybody said 'Märklin? We wouldn't know how to do it, never seen a Marklin loco'
So in the British isles nobody has ever had to replace a wheel on an Hornby locomotive? Hilarious!!!
Offline kiwiAlan  
#20 Posted : 24 September 2022 12:04:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ocram63_uk Go to Quoted Post
going to meeting with railway group next week. Apparently of the people I have asked on how/where can I get the wheel replaced everybody said 'Märklin? We wouldn't know how to do it, never seen a Marklin loco'
So in the British isles nobody has ever had to replace a wheel on an Hornby locomotive? Hilarious!!!


If you can get the replacement wheel I should be able to fit it.
Offline ocram63_uk  
#21 Posted : 24 September 2022 17:08:06(UTC)
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Hi Alan, I have foraged the pieces needed thanks to the link to an Italian ebay shop provided in this thread. In case at the model club they still come up with weird faces I'll get back to you 😊
Thank you for your offer !!! Where are you based?
Offline kiwiAlan  
#22 Posted : 24 September 2022 17:47:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ocram63_uk Go to Quoted Post
Hi Alan, I have foraged the pieces needed thanks to the link to an Italian ebay shop provided in this thread. In case at the model club they still come up with weird faces I'll get back to you 😊
Thank you for your offer !!! Where are you based?


I'm in Didcot, about 12 miles south of Oxford.
Offline ocram63_uk  
#23 Posted : 16 January 2023 21:56:13(UTC)
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Hi Alan, back to these old posts. As I'm only an hour away from your location, tomorrow Jan 17th, I'm thinking of coming to collect the loco I sent in October to save you the hassle of posting it back to me. Please let me know, I can be there around 5:30, more or less.
Offline kiwiAlan  
#24 Posted : 16 January 2023 22:58:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ocram63_uk Go to Quoted Post
Hi Alan, back to these old posts. As I'm only an hour away from your location, tomorrow Jan 17th, I'm thinking of coming to collect the loco I sent in October to save you the hassle of posting it back to me. Please let me know, I can be there around 5:30, more or less.


That should work, I'll PM you.
Offline ocram63_uk  
#25 Posted : 18 January 2023 17:33:54(UTC)
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I have to thank Alan for the nice job he did replacing the broken wheel with the new one. He has the tools and knows what he's doing. The loco is now on the roller test stand being run in. It is lovely to see it moving the connecting rods. Thank you Alan !!!
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#26 Posted : 18 January 2023 21:51:35(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ocram63_uk Go to Quoted Post
I have to thank Alan for the nice job he did replacing the broken wheel with the new one. He has the tools and knows what he's doing. The loco is now on the roller test stand being run in. It is lovely to see it moving the connecting rods. Thank you Alan !!!


You are welcome. It is nice to use a proper wheel press to get the wheel on square.
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