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Offline Mr. Ron  
#1 Posted : 07 May 2022 06:27:04(UTC)
Mr. Ron

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I wonder why Marklin never made any trains of British prototypes. Was it prejudice towards German products?
Offline Alsterstreek  
#2 Posted : 07 May 2022 08:29:44(UTC)
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There were articles 3073 (British warship class diesel loco) and 29550 (Harry Potter train set). Your question had been addressed in below 2017 thread:

https://www.marklin-user...ritish-Steam-Locomotives
Offline kiwiAlan  
#3 Posted : 07 May 2022 13:24:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mr. Ron Go to Quoted Post
I wonder why Marklin never made any trains of British prototypes. Was it prejudice towards German products?


More a case of market penetration, I suspect largely caused by the size difference between OO and H0.

Offline Toosmall  
#4 Posted : 07 May 2022 13:53:51(UTC)
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Because the third rail is in the wrong position!
Offline kimballthurlow  
#5 Posted : 08 May 2022 05:13:11(UTC)
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Prior to the 1914-18 War, Märklin made a huge contribution to the English model train market in gauges 2, 1 and 0.
In England the models were marketed by firms such as Bassett Lowke and Gamages of London.
The models accurately portrayed British items in clockwork locomotives, goods and passenger carriages and lineside accessories.
Märklin were highly respected and competed with other continental manufacturers of British outline such as Karl Bub, Bing and Carette.

Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge.
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Offline rmsailor  
#6 Posted : 08 May 2022 10:01:39(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Prior to the 1914-18 War, Märklin made a huge contribution to the English model train market in gauges 2, 1 and 0.
In England the models were marketed by firms such as Bassett Lowke and Gamages of London.
The models accurately portrayed British items in clockwork locomotives, goods and passenger carriages and lineside accessories.
Märklin were highly respected and competed with other continental manufacturers of British outline such as Karl Bub, Bing and Carette.

Kimball


After the first war there was a massive backlash against anything German which led directly to the rise and popularity of the original Hornby trains along with other makes.

Bob M.
Offline Mr. Ron  
#7 Posted : 08 May 2022 22:02:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: rmsailor Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Prior to the 1914-18 War, Märklin made a huge contribution to the English model train market in gauges 2, 1 and 0.
In England the models were marketed by firms such as Bassett Lowke and Gamages of London.
The models accurately portrayed British items in clockwork locomotives, goods and passenger carriages and lineside accessories.
Märklin were highly respected and competed with other continental manufacturers of British outline such as Karl Bub, Bing and Carette.

Kimball


After the first war there was a massive backlash against anything German which led directly to the rise and popularity of the original Hornby trains along with other makes.

Bob M.



"Was it prejudice towards German products" My original thinking was accurate.
Offline rmsailor  
#8 Posted : 09 May 2022 17:15:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mr. Ron Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: rmsailor Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Prior to the 1914-18 War, Märklin made a huge contribution to the English model train market in gauges 2, 1 and 0.
In England the models were marketed by firms such as Bassett Lowke and Gamages of London.
The models accurately portrayed British items in clockwork locomotives, goods and passenger carriages and lineside accessories.
Märklin were highly respected and competed with other continental manufacturers of British outline such as Karl Bub, Bing and Carette.

Kimball


After the first war there was a massive backlash against anything German which led directly to the rise and popularity of the original Hornby trains along with other makes.

Bob M.



"Was it prejudice towards German products" My original thinking was accurate.


The prejudice against German products was a point made by Chris and Julie Graebe in their introduction to their book on the history of the Hornby "O" gauge system in the Hornby Companion series (volume 5).

Bob M.,
Offline Mman  
#9 Posted : 09 May 2022 20:20:24(UTC)
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Fleischmann did a very nice Warship in H0 with three different Bulleid coaches to go with it.
It helped that certainly in the case of the Märklin Warship it used the same chassis as the V200, but the body was not to the same standard as the later Fleischmann offering.
ChrisG
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Offline hennabm  
#10 Posted : 10 May 2022 15:26:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mman Go to Quoted Post
Fleischmann did a very nice Warship in H0 with three different Bulleid coaches to go with it.
It helped that certainly in the case of the Märklin Warship it used the same chassis as the V200, but the body was not to the same standard as the later Fleischmann offering.
ChrisG


The other issue was that M did not supply any rolling stock whatsoever to go with their Warship, somewhat limiting the market opportunities.

Mike

1957 - 1985 era
What's digital?
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