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Offline zoooctan  
#1 Posted : 30 April 2022 19:39:18(UTC)
zoooctan

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Hello everyone. I hope you're well.
Just wondering if anyone has used Rokuhan's traction tires on their Marklin locomotives and has any experience / advice to share?
Should it also be the 4mm or 5mm one?

Thanks
Gavin

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10301111
https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10301112
Offline Poor Skeleton  
#2 Posted : 05 May 2022 18:25:08(UTC)
Poor Skeleton

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Originally Posted by: zoooctan Go to Quoted Post
Hello everyone. I hope you're well.
Just wondering if anyone has used Rokuhan's traction tires on their Marklin locomotives and has any experience / advice to share?
Should it also be the 4mm or 5mm one?



Hi Gavin,

Sorry to say, I don't think either will work on Marklin locos. The Rokuhan wheels are grooved to take the tyres and without these grooves I think the tyres will just work their way off the wheels.

I know the ever intrepid toosmall has modified wheels to accept traction tyres, but even he admits that there are a fair number of casualties in the process so I don't think it's something to take on unless you are very skilled operating a lathe.




All the best


Chris
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Offline Toosmall  
#3 Posted : 05 May 2022 23:57:13(UTC)
Toosmall

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I have only ever used heat shrink tube, non heated.

As far as staying on the wheel it will need a groove. I did a few of my locos 3 decades ago. I don't think I could face doing anymore again.


Have you added lead. That is a lot easier & easily removable.
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Offline zoooctan  
#4 Posted : 06 May 2022 18:11:40(UTC)
zoooctan

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Originally Posted by: Toosmall Go to Quoted Post
I have only ever used heat shrink tube, non heated.

As far as staying on the wheel it will need a groove. I did a few of my locos 3 decades ago. I don't think I could face doing anymore again.


Have you added lead. That is a lot easier & easily removable.


Hi I have added lead to give additional weight. At this point, I don't really need the traction tires. But I was curious if anyone had used these from Rokuhan before as they seemed to be an easy and "cheap" solution. But if they are not for Marklin wheels, then I'll have to give them a miss.

Thank you

Gavin
Offline parakiet  
#5 Posted : 06 May 2022 19:18:06(UTC)
parakiet

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some people do wheels. You sent them your wheels and they make a groove.
Do mind the lost pickup of electricity
..
Offline parakiet  
#6 Posted : 06 May 2022 19:25:19(UTC)
parakiet

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Forgot to say, there is another approach!
There is mucus you can apply on the wheels, perhaps dilute with some water, let it cure and it gives traction.

The mucus is collected from American Mojave Macho male frogs in mating mode. So stocks tend to run out every year.
Offline phils2um  
#7 Posted : 07 May 2022 08:28:39(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: parakiet Go to Quoted Post
Forgot to say, there is another approach!
There is mucus you can apply on the wheels, perhaps dilute with some water, let it cure and it gives traction.

The mucus is collected from American Mojave Macho male frogs in mating mode. So stocks tend to run out every year.


Perhaps you mean "Bullfrog Snot"? http://www.bullfrogsnot.com
Phil S.
Offline parakiet  
#8 Posted : 07 May 2022 16:40:16(UTC)
parakiet

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Originally Posted by: phils2um Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: parakiet Go to Quoted Post
Forgot to say, there is another approach!
There is mucus you can apply on the wheels, perhaps dilute with some water, let it cure and it gives traction.

The mucus is collected from American Mojave Macho male frogs in mating mode. So stocks tend to run out every year.


Perhaps you mean "Bullfrog Snot"? http://www.bullfrogsnot.com


http://www.bullfrogsnot.com/faq.asp
Scroll all the way down LOL
Offline husafreak  
#9 Posted : 08 May 2022 00:17:18(UTC)
husafreak

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Ha, I was told to never use that.
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Offline parakiet  
#10 Posted : 08 May 2022 10:03:23(UTC)
parakiet

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as with everything Z related: less is more than enough and you need to practice a lot.
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Offline Schelly  
#11 Posted : 08 May 2022 17:50:22(UTC)
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I should ask, parakiet, have you ever used this stuff "bullfrogsnot" with Z scale locos? I had seen it in model shops and asked one of my mentors and he said absolutely not! Very concerned that it would leave something on the track or gum up the works of the loco.
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Offline parakiet  
#12 Posted : 08 May 2022 21:42:17(UTC)
parakiet

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Location: Flanders!
I did it on one of my cheap marklin F7.

The first few times were a disaster. Easy to put way to much on it. You should add power so the axles turn. And use a toothpick or something else with a very small tip. Let it turn until it is really cured.

If you use way to much you have mess everywhere. If you use to much it can get wobbly.

I am testing with bougie locs to get the technique. They're easy to clean ;)

Considering that for a normal traction tyre you need to put a groove in the wheel or both wheels. That is far more difficult than the 🐸 snot

In hind sight, connection two locs together works better..
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Offline parakiet  
#13 Posted : 08 May 2022 22:03:28(UTC)
parakiet

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Originally Posted by: Schelly Go to Quoted Post
I should ask, parakiet, have you ever used this stuff "bullfrogsnot" with Z scale locos? I had seen it in model shops and asked one of my mentors and he said absolutely not! Very concerned that it would leave something on the track or gum up the works of the loco.


https://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/88/t/259004.aspx

Threads like this give many good hints :)
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