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Offline Gregor  
#51 Posted : 17 September 2021 12:27:20(UTC)
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Number 2 has been announced.
See link.

Gregor
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#52 Posted : 20 September 2021 00:32:50(UTC)
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Now I know where Marklin got the idea of the message wagons from.

BMW have been doing Art Cars for around 50 years apparently, the latest is to celebrate starting 2-series production in Mexico.

I suspect Mike should be looking at ordering one, just that Henna Red isn't the main colour ... BigGrin BigGrin

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Offline MikeK  
#53 Posted : 24 September 2021 16:19:13(UTC)
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Number 2 in H0 was sold out in about 5 min... I was in the payment confirmation screen when it was removed from my chart Crying oh well, don't need to worry about that collection anymore then...
A single track on the floor is better than no track at all...
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Offline robertsandboge  
#54 Posted : 24 September 2021 16:30:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: MikeK Go to Quoted Post
Number 2 in H0 was sold out in about 5 min... I was in the payment confirmation screen when it was removed from my chart Crying oh well, don't need to worry about that collection anymore then...


And in 5 minutes you can find them on eBay for 10x the price.
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Offline Nigel Packer  
#55 Posted : 24 September 2021 16:50:07(UTC)
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Sold out already!!!

But I got my order in . . .

Nigel
Märklin collector since age 5.
H0 Collection from 1935 to today.
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Offline robertsandboge  
#56 Posted : 24 September 2021 20:27:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Nigel Packer Go to Quoted Post
Sold out already!!!

But I got my order in . . .

Nigel


Yes, and now they sell on eBay.de for 349 to 700 euro! I was also lucky to get one at the normal price.
Offline MikeK  
#57 Posted : 24 September 2021 21:59:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: robertsandboge Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Nigel Packer Go to Quoted Post
Sold out already!!!

But I got my order in . . .

Nigel


Yes, and now they sell on eBay.de for 349 to 700 euro! I was also lucky to get one at the normal price.


No wonder they sold out that fast, if people can get such a big profit in such short time, even I would really like the H0 wagon, I refuse to pay that much to the people that were the cause I couldn't buy it at the normal price - that the speed of my bank might have something to do with it can't do anything about now... But happy I got the 1-Scale :) Have plans to use it as part of my zoom background for work :)

A single track on the floor is better than no track at all...
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Offline Marcus01  
#58 Posted : 25 September 2021 10:00:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: MikeK Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: robertsandboge Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Nigel Packer Go to Quoted Post
Sold out already!!!

But I got my order in . . .

Nigel


Yes, and now they sell on eBay.de for 349 to 700 euro! I was also lucky to get one at the normal price.


No wonder they sold out that fast, if people can get such a big profit in such short time, even I would really like the H0 wagon, I refuse to pay that much to the people that were the cause I couldn't buy it at the normal price - that the speed of my bank might have something to do with it can't do anything about now... But happy I got the 1-Scale :) Have plans to use it as part of my zoom background for work :)



I did think it was against Ebay policy to list things you didn’t actually have to sell - anyone already listing the new black wagon (before Marklin have delivered) should be reported to ebay…
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Offline Nigel Packer  
#59 Posted : 25 September 2021 10:58:29(UTC)
Nigel Packer

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Märklin haven’t even delivered the Keith Haring wagons to the UK yet!

But I see that some sales of the new black Message Wagons have already completed on eBay Germany. Customers are buying “confirmed orders”, not actual wagons!

The whole thing’s amazing! Is this Märklin’s most successful special edition ever?

Nigel
Märklin collector since age 5.
H0 Collection from 1935 to today.
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Offline robertsandboge  
#60 Posted : 25 September 2021 11:09:43(UTC)
robertsandboge

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Originally Posted by: MikeK Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: robertsandboge Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Nigel Packer Go to Quoted Post
Sold out already!!!

But I got my order in . . .

Nigel


Yes, and now they sell on eBay.de for 349 to 700 euro! I was also lucky to get one at the normal price.


No wonder they sold out that fast, if people can get such a big profit in such short time, even I would really like the H0 wagon, I refuse to pay that much to the people that were the cause I couldn't buy it at the normal price - that the speed of my bank might have something to do with it can't do anything about now... But happy I got the 1-Scale :) Have plans to use it as part of my zoom background for work :)



This is the problem with artificial limited editions. It would be more fair to the customers if they just made sure to make enough of them. If they run out, just make some more. These wagons are really easy to manufacture. In fact, you can easily make your own message wagon. Just buy one of those cheap box cars and paint it yourself. You can even use your own favorite message instead.
Offline kiwiAlan  
#61 Posted : 25 September 2021 15:03:46(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: robertsandboge Go to Quoted Post

This is the problem with artificial limited editions. It would be more fair to the customers if they just made sure to make enough of them. If they run out, just make some more. These wagons are really easy to manufacture. In fact, you can easily make your own message wagon. Just buy one of those cheap box cars and paint it yourself. You can even use your own favorite message instead.


I am very surprised at the extremely limited numbers they seem to be making of each wagon, especially in H0. G1 I could understand if they made only a hundred or so, but H0 is such a huge market it is no wonder they sold out in 5 minutes.

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Offline marklinist5999  
#62 Posted : 25 September 2021 15:38:55(UTC)
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Over production decreases collectable values. An example is Dept. 56 items. The ones made in the fewest are the most valuable and sought. The Globe theatre, Victoria station, the White House, and a few of the Dickens village.
Hallmark also numbers and limits production of Star Trek, Star Wars, and Haary Potter items.
Offline MikeK  
#63 Posted : 26 September 2021 23:21:31(UTC)
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Out of interest, do we know how many they make of each of these wagons?
A single track on the floor is better than no track at all...
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Offline Nigel Packer  
#64 Posted : 24 October 2021 10:44:20(UTC)
Nigel Packer

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Märklin has now despatched both of the two Message Wagons to the UK.

I don’t know what Brexit deal has been done over the taxes - we will see!

Nigel
Märklin collector since age 5.
H0 Collection from 1935 to today.
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