 Joined: 14/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 24 Location: Connecticut, Bridgeport
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I am a new guy here. First time to configure Roco train. Just bought a Roco 79819 (Re 4/4 174 BLS) for Marklin AC. Using my MS2 "Find" to register the loco, it shows "DCC3," and has limited default functions. Please see Is it any other way to find the RIGHT address for more functions through MS2? Thank you so much!
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 Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,874 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square
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I'm just reconfigure your Youtube channel |
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Joined: 14/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 24 Location: Connecticut, Bridgeport
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Thanks! Also, if any suggestion, welcome!
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Joined: 14/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 24 Location: Connecticut, Bridgeport
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 Joined: 07/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: England, Suffolk
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I think that you should load the loco manually. Do not load it automatically. Find a Marklin loco that has the same sounds and use this loco. This is what I did ages ago with the MS1
ESU decoders had two subsequent CV1 addresses to allow you to use all the 'hidden' functionalities on older Motorola control stations, like the MS1
I have an Ecos so no more issues, most of the time
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we would also like UPDATES on the help provided or the resolution of the initial question :-)
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Joined: 14/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 24 Location: Connecticut, Bridgeport
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Trying to register manually through MS2 “database “ but so far no luck. Contacting Roco to see any suggested address.
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 Joined: 28/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 303 Location: Torino,
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All AC models with non-mfx decoders come with DCC3 default address, so your MS2 has correctly identified the loco.
If you don't like address 3 you must change it programming CV1 (short address 1-127) or CV 17, CV18, CV29 (long address 1-10240).
MS2 doesn't read anything from the loco, so you must set the functions icons manually taking information from instructions.
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Haven't used my MS2 to register locos in a long time (using a CS3 now) but just enter the locomotive manually like Mario54i says. You don't have to fiddle with CVs just follow the instructions in the user manual. It's a bit cumbersome when dealing with naming and entering icons and symbols but it's all in the manual. It will take some practice to get used to how the buttons and the user interface works.
If the locomotive is already wrongly registered you should delete it and then start over.
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Joined: 28/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 303 Location: Torino,
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I tried with a similar engine, another Re4/4 BLS, and after activating manually all functions on my old (never updated) MS2 (loco edit > loco functions) I could control all light and sound functions from F0 to F15.
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Joined: 14/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 24 Location: Connecticut, Bridgeport
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Thank you all for your suggestions. Another advice from a YouTuber recommends the following procedure: 1. reset the decoder - find "Reset Loco". Select this one. You will see the locomotive briefly blink with its light. 2. Back out of the menus and press the STOP button. Then wait 5 sec. The power off will trigger the decoder reset. Press STOP button after 5 sec giving power to the tracks. The locomotive should now be reset. Lights should off. 3. delete the current locomotive using SHIFT+Locomotive. Scroll down and select "Remove Loco" 4. add it manually. Find a spot without a locomotive (the one you are on should be on). SHIFT+locomotive, scroll down and select "Enter Manually", then scroll down and select DCC. Go through the next few steps by just accepting name "ABC", change address to 3. Now you should have the locomotive as address 3 in DCC mode and the MS2 should display all the function keys. So far it works well for my 79819 on MS2! Edited by user 01 May 2021 18:03:49(UTC)
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Great that your problems are solved. Just remember and make a note that address 3 is now taken and that any other DCC locomotive you get, or already have, needs another address.
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Originally Posted by: H5463  Now you should have the locomotive as address 3 in DCC mode and the MS2 should display all the function keys. How many function symbols you see for DCC locos depends on how you add the loco and which version the MS2 has. To get meaningful function symbols you have to edit them in the MS2 anyway. Function keys without symbol do not do anything. To make use of F0 through F28 select symbols for all functions supported by the loco. The Roco loco should come with a leaflet that lists the available sounds and other functions. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS  |
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Joined: 14/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 24 Location: Connecticut, Bridgeport
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Yes. I got 23 functions (F0~F22) as the instruction indicated, and had them changed to symbols. My remaining issue is that the loco and MS2 have opposite driving directions. It causes a little confusion especially to control lights. Any suggestion to fine tuning is welcome. Thank you! Edited by user 15 February 2021 15:20:24(UTC)
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Joined: 14/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 24 Location: Connecticut, Bridgeport
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Originally Posted by: Copenhagen Great that your problems are solved. Just remember and make a note that address 3 is now taken and that any other DCC locomotive you get, or already have, needs another address. Yeah I don’t know whether to get another Roco loco for now since it requests some effort to configure with Marklin, just like Apple and MS! Maybe later!
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Joined: 14/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 24 Location: Connecticut, Bridgeport
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Joined: 07/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: England, Suffolk
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this is an interesting document it tells you which loco has which Function button enabled. I used to do it this way with my old MS1, find the loco with the funtions needed load it from the database and then change the address to my loco. Fun https://www.stummi.de/Dig-Lok-DB.htmlenjoy
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Originally Posted by: ocram63_uk this is an interesting document it tells you which loco has which Function button enabled. Useful link. But no Roco locos in that list. Last update was 2012. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS |
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Joined: 07/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: England, Suffolk
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yes agreed, but you see the functions the Roco loco has and find a similar Marklin one, you select it and then tou change the address to the Roco one
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Originally Posted by: ocram63_uk yes agreed, but you see the functions the Roco loco has and find a similar Marklin one, you select it and then tou change the address to the Roco one In the database you only find locos with up to 9 functions - and locos with more than 5 functions are very rare in the database. And all those locos use the MM protocol. The Roco loco should be used with the DCC protocol. I think you cannot change the protocol later on, can you? |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS |
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Joined: 07/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 729 Location: England, Suffolk
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@tom what you ask I really don't know. I don't have the MS1 anymore and never had the MS2. But surely, functions should work in any format, or not ? This I do not know.
The table goes up to F15 though.
The table might be old but I believe somewhere there is a new one ? Not that I want to be right at all costs !
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Originally Posted by: ocram63_uk The table goes up to F15 though. Yes, for mfx locos. But mfx locos are not included in the database, neither MS1 nor MS2 nor any CS. So those locos cannot be used as a template when registering a new loco. And 99% of the locos that can be used as a template have F0 through F4 at maximum. MM is limited to 5 functions per loco while DCC supports 32767 functions per loco. I have both MS1 and MS2 and the list, as interesting as it is, is not that helpful when registering new Roco locos on an MS2. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS |
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