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Offline Armando  
#1 Posted : 12 December 2020 19:38:12(UTC)
Armando

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Hello,

This question is for our Dutch members or fans of the NS.
Roco has released this year, as a new item, a rerun of their model of a type B, Mat'24 "Blokkendoos" in blue livery (item # 74419)
The new item catalog says that it can be combined with "Plan D" coaches.
Could this arrangement really be seen in NL in a prototypical consist?
Thanks in advance!
Best regards,
Armando García

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Offline danmarklinman  
#2 Posted : 13 December 2020 11:24:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Armando Go to Quoted Post
Hello,

This question is for our Dutch members or fans of the NS.
Roco has released this year, as a new item, a rerun of their model of a type B, Mat'24 "Blokkendoos" in blue livery (item # 74419)
The new item catalog says that it can be combined with "Plan D" coaches.
Could this arrangement really be seen in NL in a prototypical consist?
Thanks in advance!


I’m not sure myself. But there is a Benelux society in the U.K. that might help you. Or better still, order it from a Dutch model shop. There usually quite helpful. Also I’ve found Instagram as been really helpful. There’s lots helpful Dutch Rail fans on there who are always helpful 👍
Also there’s a great deal of archive film on this YouTube channel on NS railways and more
you might see the combination on one of there videos!
Dan


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Online Wildrose-Wally  
#3 Posted : 13 December 2020 18:59:44(UTC)
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Offline Armando  
#4 Posted : 13 December 2020 19:25:57(UTC)
Armando

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Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Armando Go to Quoted Post

Also there’s a great deal of archive film on this YouTube channel on NS railways and more
you might see the combination on one of there videos!
Dan




Thanks a lot!! I was not aware of these videos.
Best regards,
Armando García

Offline Armando  
#5 Posted : 13 December 2020 19:31:41(UTC)
Armando

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Originally Posted by: Wildrose-Wally Go to Quoted Post


Thank you for this most helpful information, with the prototypical NS consists.
What I seem to be missing for my prototypical "Plan D" consist is not the "Blokkendoos", but the postal car. Unfortunately, not in the Roco catalog yet.
Best regards,
Armando García

Offline danmarklinman  
#6 Posted : 13 December 2020 20:49:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Armando Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Armando Go to Quoted Post

Also there’s a great deal of archive film on this YouTube channel on NS railways and more
you might see the combination on one of there videos!
Dan




Thanks a lot!! I was not aware of these videos.


You welcome, I really like the program featuring the ex British electrics and there diesel cousins NS 600 shunters. The Roco version is on my shopping list.
Aritec make the postal coach I believe 👍
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Offline mike c  
#7 Posted : 14 December 2020 16:35:36(UTC)
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I think that the postal car (Stalen D) is available from Artitec. That coach was also part of the Holland-Italien Express, which could be seen on the Gotthard in the 1960s.

The photos I saw on railfaneurope.net seems to show a variety of coaches in use with Blokendoos.
http://www.railfaneurope...c/emu/Mat24/m24-hfwg.jpg

Regards

Mike C
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Offline hxmiesa  
#8 Posted : 14 December 2020 19:30:56(UTC)
hxmiesa

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Originally Posted by: Armando Go to Quoted Post

Roco has released this year, as a new item, a rerun of their model of a type B, Mat'24 "Blokkendoos" in blue livery (item # 74419)
The new item catalog says that it can be combined with "Plan D" coaches.

Maybe I don´t understand the question right, because the 74419 seems to BE a "Plan D" coach, so it would seem only logical that it should be combined with more Plan-D coaches...?!

Best regards
Henrik Hoexbroe ("The Dane In Spain")
http://hoexbroe.tripod.com
Offline Gregor  
#9 Posted : 15 December 2020 16:14:49(UTC)
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Hi,

Originally these cars (Roco 74419) were part of the "Mat 24 Blokkendoos" trains, a combination of pulled cars and motorised units ordered in the 1920's.
Starting in the 1950's the motorised units were converted to non-motorised cars and together with the original non-motorised cars repainted in Berlin blue. The B indicates 2nd class.
They were in use until the early 1970's. So they could end up in consists together with Plan D cars, which existed from 1950 onwards.

Best regards,
Gregor
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