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Offline H0  
#51 Posted : 10 October 2013 20:43:23(UTC)
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With a "D9" serial number I would expect a 36xx ref. number. Maybe 3674.
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Offline cookee_nz  
#52 Posted : 11 October 2013 06:34:39(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
With a "D9" serial number I would expect a 36xx ref. number. Maybe 3674.


Yep, absolutely right, I was just testing y'all to see who was paying attention!! LOL LOL LOL

OK, now the truth, Blushing actually I was being lazy

I always refer to it as a 3075 even though correctly it is a 3674, from my 2610 K-track Digital Start Set. I do have a 3075 also, in red, analogue, but my 3674 regularly gets a clothing change when I put the yellow/green transparent body on, which then changes it again to a 3774, even though it does not have the 37xx chip or motor.

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Offline Neah  
#53 Posted : 11 October 2013 10:45:07(UTC)
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Thank you all for the great answers. The reason I was asking is because I'm looking at a loco on eBay and the seller does not know the model # or where to find the serial.

Maybe one of you can tell us more about what we're looking at here.
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#54 Posted : 11 October 2013 11:41:07(UTC)
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Maybe one of you can tell us more about what we're looking at here.
Märklin 3034, made 1976-1980, no serial number. If there was a serial number, it would be under the powered truck and visible on the third picture.
See also:
http://www.hfkern.de/Maerklin/Dt_Loks_E141.html

Serial number tells production year, but is normally not helpful when you're looking for the ref. number of a loco.
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Offline cookee_nz  
#55 Posted : 11 October 2013 11:54:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Neah Go to Quoted Post
Thank you all for the great answers. The reason I was asking is because I'm looking at a loco on eBay and the seller does not know the model # or where to find the serial.

Maybe one of you can tell us more about what we're looking at here.


Adding to what Tom has provided, one of the simple things that you can do, and is often overlooked is to simply google the road number - in this case with the zoom-in tool it reads "141-015-8".

Generally (but not absolutely) when Marklin change the design of a model, perhaps new tooling or some other improvement, they also change the road number which pleases detail modelers no-end as they like having unique numbers on their layout just as in real life.

In your search you can choose web information, or images to get comparisons.

The road number is also helpful is you are referring to Koll's as this is often how they will break down variants of the same model. In this instance, if it was prior to 1976 it would be road number 141-005-9 which according to Koll's was produced 1969-1975.

The same applies to Coaches as well to help identify an unknown item, but you'll often need a good magnifying glass to read those.
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Offline intruder  
#56 Posted : 23 October 2013 23:11:41(UTC)
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The trsnsparent [b]r 218 was a digital demonstation model for the Märklin dealer's very first digital demo layout in 1985.

It came with it's fellow transparent demonstrators 3772 br 212 and 3757 br 103.
In spite of the 37 series number, they all came with the old traditional 3* motor and a prototype c80 decoder.

Ihave the 3772 (actually two of them) and the 3774, but I still miss the 3757

Unfortunately their transparent bodies often turn yellow over time, if exposed to light.
My 3774 is quite good, as one of the 3772s.


Märklin 3774
Serial no. D59379

They can be seen here:Bo'Bo'_Diesel
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Offline cookee_nz  
#57 Posted : 24 October 2013 08:07:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: intruder Go to Quoted Post
The trsnsparent [b]r 218 was a digital demonstation model for the Märklin dealer's very first digital demo layout in 1985.

It came with it's fellow transparent demonstrators 3772 br 212 and 3757 br 103.
In spite of the 37 series number, they all came with the old traditional 3* motor and a prototype c80 decoder.

Ihave the 3772 (actually two of them) and the 3774, but I still miss the 3757

Unfortunately their transparent bodies often turn yellow over time, if exposed to light.
My 3774 is quite good, as one of the 3772s.

They can be seen here:Bo'Bo'_Diesel


I also have the 212 in clear plastic with no tinge to it however my 216 has not turned yellow with age/light, it was actually produced in that colour, very rare and hard to find.

I love it and would be happy to add one or two others to the range. !! Drool Drool

Cheers

Steve
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Offline intruder  
#58 Posted : 24 October 2013 16:17:54(UTC)
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cookee_nz wrote:

I also have the 212 in clear plastic with no tinge to it however my 216 has not turned yellow with age/light, it was actually produced in that colour, very rare and hard to find.

I love it and would be happy to add one or two others to the range. !! Drool Drool

Cheers

Steve

Interesting, I did not know. Thank you.

Every day we learn something new in this fantastic forum!

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Offline cookee_nz  
#59 Posted : 25 October 2013 06:25:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: intruder Go to Quoted Post
cookee_nz wrote:

I also have the 212 in clear plastic with no tinge to it however my 216 has not turned yellow with age/light, it was actually produced in that colour, very rare and hard to find.

I love it and would be happy to add one or two others to the range. !! Drool Drool

Cheers

Steve

Interesting, I did not know. Thank you.

Every day we learn something new in this fantastic forum!



They are the same coloured plastic as used on the special ICE Trains on the cover of the 87/88 catalogue.

There was a thread about this some months ago but I can't find it right now so here's the four different 216 bodies (courtesy of Tom Catherall who owns them and supplied the photo)
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Offline bygger01  
#60 Posted : 07 September 2019 11:02:51(UTC)
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I have been checking what the code under my Märklin loco. means.

From the post I can understand:

The Color tells about decade it is produced
The Letter about the motor and it's "control"
The First figure is production year

But what about the rest, is it figures which is unique for any locomotives ?
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Offline ocram63_uk  
#61 Posted : 30 May 2020 16:47:16(UTC)
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My green serial number has the letter S, C Sinus, but the number sequence is made of 7 numbers.
It was made in 2006 as it is S6XXXXXX

The begginig of this thread says the numbers should be 8
Offline owidgie  
#62 Posted : 01 June 2020 23:42:51(UTC)
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Tom Catherall passed away in 2014. His collection was sold by the family. Most of the rare collectable items were given to family members. The pictured diesel locos in four different colors are some of the few rare items that were sold.


Does anybody here have any other colored transparent locos?


Rick
Offline kiwiAlan  
#63 Posted : 02 June 2020 05:23:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: owidgie Go to Quoted Post
Tom Catherall passed away in 2014. His collection was sold by the family. Most of the rare collectable items were given to family members. The pictured diesel locos in four different colors are some of the few rare items that were sold.


Does anybody here have any other colored transparent locos?


Rick


37789 ICE 3 three piece set issued for 140 years of Marklin. The two end pieces are a pale blue and the center coach a pale pink.

You should be able to find an example on eBay. This one is well overpriced but this one is more reasonable.
Offline cookee_nz  
#64 Posted : 02 June 2020 11:17:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: owidgie Go to Quoted Post
Tom Catherall passed away in 2014. His collection was sold by the family. Most of the rare collectable items were given to family members. The pictured diesel locos in four different colors are some of the few rare items that were sold.


Does anybody here have any other colored transparent locos?


Rick



Well, since that old posting from 2013, I've also acquired a Blue transparent Cl. 216. It's actually the least-translucent of the four but might lend itself to some innovative lighting as a future project.

It came from Tom's Collection along with a Transparent Digital Controller 6223 which is now in our club Museum.

The only issue is I have to keep sacrificing other 216's to get a Chassis and the Window inserts. Hence a Blue frame and a Grey one

I would totally love one of the coloured ICE units, but they are about as rare as the Märklin Wonderwheel / Wunderrad !! Wink

Two down, 2 to go. ThumpUp

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Offline cookee_nz  
#65 Posted : 02 June 2020 11:53:13(UTC)
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here are the two previous articles re Transparent items....

https://www.marklin-user...-transparent-locomotives ("Marklin-transparent-locomotives" - August 2015)

https://www.marklin-user...arent-ICE-display-models ("MM-article-on-Coloured-Transparent-ICE-display-models" - July 2012)

So rather than taking over the Serial Number thread it would be more polite and relevant to continue discussions about transparent items in either of the relevant topics above
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