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JohnyH		#1 Posted : 05 January 2020 21:48:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/01/2020(UTC) Posts: 5 Location: Kralovehradecky kraj, Nachod		Hello, can anybody help me to rebuilt this layout from M-track (M-gleis) to C-track (C-gleis)...? Unfortunately, original layout for C-track for this layout doesn't exist Thank you.... Tannhofen M-gleis.pdf (1,031kb) downloaded 132 time(s).


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hvc		#2 Posted : 07 January 2020 21:55:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/06/2013(UTC) Posts: 431 Location: Melbourne, VIC, Australia		Do you just want a C-track plan that is the same general shape, or do you actually need to lay track on the Noch pre-formed layout? - Herman
		- Herman


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JohnyH		#3 Posted : 07 January 2020 23:46:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/01/2020(UTC) Posts: 5 Location: Kralovehradecky kraj, Nachod		Originally Posted by: hvc Do you just want a C-track plan that is the same general shape, or do you actually need to lay track on the Noch pre-formed layout? - Herman Actually, I'm looking for the C-track plan for this old layout.


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kiwiAlan		#4 Posted : 08 January 2020 00:28:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,480 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: JohnyH Originally Posted by: hvc Do you just want a C-track plan that is the same general shape, or do you actually need to lay track on the Noch pre-formed layout? - Herman Actually, I'm looking for the C-track plan for this old layout. I don't think you will get an exact C track plan that will fit the Noch pre-form as the C track geometries for points and straight lengths are different to M track. This does produce problems when trying generate a C track equivalent of an M track plan.


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hvc		#5 Posted : 08 January 2020 00:33:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/06/2013(UTC) Posts: 431 Location: Melbourne, VIC, Australia		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: JohnyH Originally Posted by: hvc Do you just want a C-track plan that is the same general shape, or do you actually need to lay track on the Noch pre-formed layout? - Herman Actually, I'm looking for the C-track plan for this old layout. I don't think you will get an exact C track plan that will fit the Noch pre-form as the C track geometries for points and straight lengths are different to M track. This does produce problems when trying generate a C track equivalent of an M track plan. Exactly. For example, the M track layout version relies on Radius 1 turnouts, which don't exist in C track.
		- Herman


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hvc		#6 Posted : 08 January 2020 00:37:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/06/2013(UTC) Posts: 431 Location: Melbourne, VIC, Australia		Originally Posted by: JohnyH Originally Posted by: hvc Do you just want a C-track plan that is the same general shape, or do you actually need to lay track on the Noch pre-formed layout? - Herman Actually, I'm looking for the C-track plan for this old layout. So I take this to mean that you need to it actually fit on the Noch layout? I that case, my recommendation would be to not use C-track, unless you have a lot of C track you can just experiment with. C track geometry is different to M track.
		- Herman


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JohnyH		#7 Posted : 08 January 2020 13:51:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/01/2020(UTC) Posts: 5 Location: Kralovehradecky kraj, Nachod		Originally Posted by: hvc Originally Posted by: JohnyH Originally Posted by: hvc Do you just want a C-track plan that is the same general shape, or do you actually need to lay track on the Noch pre-formed layout? - Herman Actually, I'm looking for the C-track plan for this old layout. So I take this to mean that you need to it actually fit on the Noch layout? I that case, my recommendation would be to not use C-track, unless you have a lot of C track you can just experiment with. C track geometry is different to M track. Unfortunately, I have some of these C-track...... I want to buy CS3 one day and use feedback modules....... Anyway, M-track work fine, but I think that with M-track you are very limited (rust, contact track, problem with S88...)


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hvc		#8 Posted : 10 January 2020 01:05:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/06/2013(UTC) Posts: 431 Location: Melbourne, VIC, Australia		Originally Posted by: JohnyH Unfortunately, I have some of these C-track...... I want to buy CS3 one day and use feedback modules....... Anyway, M-track work fine, but I think that with M-track you are very limited (rust, contact track, problem with S88...) OK - well, it won't fit exactly, and probbaly the K track version in your PDF is a better start point. The central figure 8 needs to be Radius 1 curves, so that only leaves the C-track curved turnouts, and the K track version is similar. I've drawn up for you a C-Track layout which is similar, but will almost certainly not fit exactly. Please don't rely on this - it's just a start, you'll have to make adjustments... (click on the image for a more legible one) Here's the inventory list Part# Part Description Qty 24064 Straight Track, 64.3 mm 1 24077 Straight Track, 77.5mm 1 24094 Straight Track, 94.2mm 3 24107 Curved Track R1, 7.5° 3 24115 Curved Track R1, 15° 3 24130 Curved Track R1, 30° 29 24172 Straight Track, 171.7mm 8 24188 Straight Track, 188.3mm 9 24206 Curved Track R2, 5.7° 4 24224 Curved Track R2, 24.3° 3 24230 Curved Track R2, 30° 7 24611 Left Turnout, R2/24.3° 1 24630 Three Way Turnout, R2 1 24671 Curved Turnout, Left, 30° 2 24672 Curved Turnout, Right, 30° 2 24977 Bumper 77.5 (+5.0) mm 3 Hope this helps. Herman
		- Herman

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JohnyH		#9 Posted : 10 January 2020 17:58:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/01/2020(UTC) Posts: 5 Location: Kralovehradecky kraj, Nachod		Originally Posted by: JohnyH Originally Posted by: hvc Originally Posted by: JohnyH Originally Posted by: hvc Do you just want a C-track plan that is the same general shape, or do you actually need to lay track on the Noch pre-formed layout? - Herman Actually, I'm looking for the C-track plan for this old layout. So I take this to mean that you need to it actually fit on the Noch layout? I that case, my recommendation would be to not use C-track, unless you have a lot of C track you can just experiment with. C track geometry is different to M track. Unfortunately, I have some of these C-track...... I want to buy CS3 one day and use feedback modules....... Anyway, M-track work fine, but I think that with M-track you are very limited (rust, contact track, problem with S88...)


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JohnyH		#10 Posted : 10 January 2020 17:59:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/01/2020(UTC) Posts: 5 Location: Kralovehradecky kraj, Nachod		Originally Posted by: hvc Originally Posted by: JohnyH Unfortunately, I have some of these C-track...... I want to buy CS3 one day and use feedback modules....... Anyway, M-track work fine, but I think that with M-track you are very limited (rust, contact track, problem with S88...) OK - well, it won't fit exactly, and probbaly the K track version in your PDF is a better start point. The central figure 8 needs to be Radius 1 curves, so that only leaves the C-track curved turnouts, and the K track version is similar. I've drawn up for you a C-Track layout which is similar, but will almost certainly not fit exactly. Please don't rely on this - it's just a start, you'll have to make adjustments... (click on the image for a more legible one) Here's the inventory list Part# Part Description Qty 24064 Straight Track, 64.3 mm 1 24077 Straight Track, 77.5mm 1 24094 Straight Track, 94.2mm 3 24107 Curved Track R1, 7.5° 3 24115 Curved Track R1, 15° 3 24130 Curved Track R1, 30° 29 24172 Straight Track, 171.7mm 8 24188 Straight Track, 188.3mm 9 24206 Curved Track R2, 5.7° 4 24224 Curved Track R2, 24.3° 3 24230 Curved Track R2, 30° 7 24611 Left Turnout, R2/24.3° 1 24630 Three Way Turnout, R2 1 24671 Curved Turnout, Left, 30° 2 24672 Curved Turnout, Right, 30° 2 24977 Bumper 77.5 (+5.0) mm 3 Hope this helps. Herman Hallo, thank you very much for your layout...........it looks very good..........and it could be working.....hope so... I know that the only way, how to find out if it really works, is to realize that.... The only thing I'am afraid .....are the 2 turnouts 24671 (replacing M-track 5137) and connection with the other tracks........ Don't know why Marklin doesn't do the similar turnout (5137) with C-track....what a pity..!! It would be saving time and money ...


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rrf		#11 Posted : 11 January 2020 00:31:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/11/2009(UTC) Posts: 300 Location: Silver Spring, Maryland USA		Originally Posted by: JohnyH Don't know why Marklin doesn't do the similar turnout (5137) with C-track....what a pity..!! It would be saving time and money ... Playing with C-Track for many years now, I have learned that there are quite a few subtleties to its geometry. IMHO, most of the length and angle choices are extremely well thought out. I find it much easier to build complex layouts with C-Track, compared to my past experiences with M-Track. My two pennies ... I hope you have similar experiences.
		Rob Mackenrode Wende Bahn

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