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Hj, I'm new on this forum and I have a question: how can I run my new KM-1 094 055-1 loco, on Marklin CS3 ? I hope someone can help me.… Thank you. Edited by moderator 20 October 2019 09:17:44(UTC)
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Welcome to the forum.
I have a KM1 01 180 Gauge 1 loco and I run it with a CS2 and also an ESU Ecos.
My loco has a Loksound XL 4 decoder which has both mFX and DCC protocols. The CS2 automatically registered the loco with mFX the first time I used it with the CS2. The CS3 should do the same - just connect your CS3 to the track, put the loco on the track and it should automatically register itself with the CS3. If you want to run the loco with DCC, you will have to disable mFX on the CS3 and manually enter the DCC details for the loco into the CS3.
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Thanks Bigdaddynz,
mine loco has a motor decoder DCCD-5, a sound decoder HDKM-16, a smoke decoder DSM-4 and, for me, there is no way to insert the loco on the CS3. The loco is never recognised also when I try to insert it manually via DCC.
Any idea?
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Originally Posted by: furetto1212  Hj,
I'm new on this forum and I have a question: how can I run my new KM-1 094 055-1 loco, on Marklin CS3 ?
I hope someone can help me.…
Thank you. Originally Posted by: furetto1212
... Any idea?
Yes, I have an idea and welcome here at marklin-users.net. Do you have manuals for your loco in English or only in German? Do you understand the German language? KM is offering all manuals on their website for their products, but I cannot find any manual in another language than German. Even it looks like their website is only in German available. If you do not understand German, I think it will be not easy for you to understand your KM1 loco very well. First, does your loco has the article number KM1 119 429? I am not familiar with KM only with H0 and mainly with Maerklin products. But for running a loco you have to know the format and the digital address of your loco. Doesn't matter which model, producer or digital processor chip is inside. What you have to know is the format (MM, mfx, DCC, etc.) and the digital address for this format (e.g. H0 Maerklin locos are mainly presetted in the DCC format at #3). For this purpose I must know which loco you exactly got. Because in these manuals are the standard address listed, which are set by the producing company. In your case the manual for this KM1 may be art. #119 429 (also #109 429 may be possible) for DCC it is the digital address 94 - I guess. In the manual stands "operating mode DCC address 94". This is for the model BR 94 2nd serie. It exists a BR 94 as well. This probably is the 1st serie. For this model the manual indicates a DCC address 49. Second, back to Maerklin and your CS 3. Did you download the CS 3 manual from the Maerklin website? It does not matter, if it is a CS 3 or a CS 3+ manual. These manuals from Maerklin are identical. At page #7 of the manual are the difference between a CS 3 and a CS 3 plus explained. https://www.maerklin.de/...e/details/article/60216/https://static.maerklin....85fc4ac1761561699635.pdfThis manual is in 6 languages available and in Italien too. These languages are in one PDF file and the page numbers for each language are identical. So at every other language the manual starts at page 1 again. It helps. Because I can read the manual in the German section under the same page number as it is the identical one with page # in the Italian section, which probably you are using. Look in the CS 3 PDF-manual at page #14 "Running a Locomotive with Address Control". There the manual tells you, how to run your loco without registering. You just insert the digital address and the format you want to use. Than it shall run. If not, you have to search for another digital address. A CS 3 allows you to read the digital address out of the decoder from your loco. How to do this, it tells you the CS 3 manual at page #12. Many success and nice running. Regards TEEWolf
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 I should be DCC address 49 or MM addresses 49 + 50, if you have it new from the factory. Per. |
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Originally Posted by: furetto1212 mine loco has a motor decoder DCCD-5, a sound decoder HDKM-16, a smoke decoder DSM-4 and, for me, there is no way to insert the loco on the CS3. The loco is never recognised also when I try to insert it manually via DCC. Any idea? To get back on topic, despite Serge's unhelpful comments, it looks like KM1 are using new decoders https://www.km-1.de/html...cd-5_digitaldecoder.htmlhttps://www.km-1.de/html/hdkm-16_soundmodul.htmlEnglish translations follow   So, it seems no mFX so the loco will not register itself. The only way is to manually create a new loco as per the instructions in the CS3 manual TeeWolf posted a link to. Use the function list in the locos manual that I posted a link to to set up the functions in the CS3 (page 3) - see list below. The only way to get this loco to register automatically is to use a controller that supports Railcom, such as the ESU Ecos. The CS3 does not support Railcom.  English translation: Drive Function = light I cab. (I presume this is F0) F1 = sound on / off F2 = whistle I short whistle F3 = Rangierkupplung front F4 = rear marshalling coupling F5 = smoke F6 = cylinder vapor F7 = maneuvering / lighting F8 = bell If you are still having issues, maybe you could ask either the dealer who sold you the CS3 or the dealer who sold you the KM1 loco to help. Edit: This may not be the correct manual for the KM1 BR94 you have as the manual I linked to makes reference to the loco having an ESU decoder. Can you please advise the KM1 item number of the loco you have.
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz To get back on topic, despite Serge's unhelpful comments Certain messages that disrupted this thread have been removed... Please, stay on topic.
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You are very kind Teewolf, I've seen that dcc address is 94 in the manual and the number of the loco is 119429 and now I will try to do what you told me. Thank you Originally Posted by: TEEWolf For this purpose I must know which loco you exactly got. Because in these manuals are the standard address listed, which are set by the producing company. In your case the manual for this KM1 may be art. #119 429 (also #109 429 may be possible) for DCC it is the digital address 94 - I guess. In the manual stands "operating mode DCC address 94". This is for the model BR 94 2nd serie. It exists a BR 94 as well. This probably is the 1st serie. For this model the manual indicates a DCC address 49.
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I tried with address 94 and it work!!!!! Thank you || Originally Posted by: furetto1212 I've seen that dcc address is 94 in the manual and the number of the loco is 119429
and now I will try to do what you told me.
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Originally Posted by: furetto1212 I tried with address 94 and it work!!!!! Congratulations  The ones we have in the club came with 49 from factory Per. |
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Welcome to the forum.
I have a KM1 01 180 Gauge 1 loco and I run it with a CS2 and also an ESU Ecos.
My loco has a Loksound XL 4 decoder which has both mFX and DCC protocols. The CS2 automatically registered the loco with mFX the first time I used it with the CS2. The CS3 should do the same - just connect your CS3 to the track, put the loco on the track and it should automatically register itself with the CS3. If you want to run the loco with DCC, you will have to disable mFX on the CS3 and manually enter the DCC details for the loco into the CS3. ———- I have a new KM-1 18-230 loco that does not work with my ESU cab. I trim (smaller system). Will CS3 automatically register the KM1 and give me all 30 functions of sound and smoke? And I suppose my Marklin gauge 1 locos with mfx will automatically register?
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Originally Posted by: furetto1212 Hj,
I'm new on this forum and I have a question: how can I run my new KM-1 094 055-1 loco, on Marklin CS3 ?
I hope someone can help me.…
Thank you. Originally Posted by: furetto1212
... Any idea?
Yes, I have an idea and welcome here at marklin-users.net. Do you have manuals for your loco in English or only in German? Do you understand the German language? KM is offering all manuals on their website for their products, but I cannot find any manual in another language than German. Even it looks like their website is only in German available. If you do not understand German, I think it will be not easy for you to understand your KM1 loco very well. First, does your loco has the article number KM1 119 429? I am not familiar with KM only with H0 and mainly with Maerklin products. But for running a loco you have to know the format and the digital address of your loco. Doesn't matter which model, producer or digital processor chip is inside. What you have to know is the format (MM, mfx, DCC, etc.) and the digital address for this format (e.g. H0 Maerklin locos are mainly presetted in the DCC format at #3). For this purpose I must know which loco you exactly got. Because in these manuals are the standard address listed, which are set by the producing company. In your case the manual for this KM1 may be art. #119 429 (also #109 429 may be possible) for DCC it is the digital address 94 - I guess. In the manual stands "operating mode DCC address 94". This is for the model BR 94 2nd serie. It exists a BR 94 as well. This probably is the 1st serie. For this model the manual indicates a DCC address 49. Second, back to Maerklin and your CS 3. Did you download the CS 3 manual from the Maerklin website? It does not matter, if it is a CS 3 or a CS 3+ manual. These manuals from Maerklin are identical. At page #7 of the manual are the difference between a CS 3 and a CS 3 plus explained. https://www.maerklin.de/...e/details/article/60216/https://static.maerklin....85fc4ac1761561699635.pdfThis manual is in 6 languages available and in Italien too. These languages are in one PDF file and the page numbers for each language are identical. So at every other language the manual starts at page 1 again. It helps. Because I can read the manual in the German section under the same page number as it is the identical one with page # in the Italian section, which probably you are using. Look in the CS 3 PDF-manual at page #14 "Running a Locomotive with Address Control". There the manual tells you, how to run your loco without registering. You just insert the digital address and the format you want to use. Than it shall run. If not, you have to search for another digital address. A CS 3 allows you to read the digital address out of the decoder from your loco. How to do this, it tells you the CS 3 manual at page #12. Many success and nice running. Regards TEEWolf I have the same problem. I have a brand new JN-1 18-230 locomotive. My ESU cab control did not auto-register the loco nor did any program I gcwirk fir me. Will CS3 automatically register and deliver all 30 functions? Please respond.
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Did you tried to set loco decoder only at DCC protocol first?
I have never heard about KM1 new sound decoder and i thought they still (?) keep on ESU Loksound 5 XL. |
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