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Offline kamstutz  
#1 Posted : 01 March 2019 15:52:53(UTC)
kamstutz

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Hey all - I was watching an auction this morning out of the UK and a Marklin T700 sold for a whopping 8,000 pounds (more than 10,000 with 21% BUYER'S PREMIUM) from Rogers Jones & Co.. Two collectors must have REALLY wanted this one and got into a bidding war. Hope no one has buyer's regrets... Huh

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Offline DaleSchultz  
#2 Posted : 01 March 2019 16:13:30(UTC)
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oh shit, I thought I bid £80.00
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Offline CCS800KrokHunter3  
#3 Posted : 01 March 2019 16:50:49(UTC)
CCS800KrokHunter3

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Hi Kurt,

A seemingly rare locomotive, a "Prototype" made of of brass of the T 800 but in the 700 series (therefore T 700). The box to me is not correct. I think this prototype must have been made 1937/1938 (maybe earlier?) because it must be before the first version T 800.

I know I've seen this loco before pictured in a Marklin catalog or instruction sheet. I'll post it when I find it. There's also the RS 800 but in 700 series I believe (and different from the RS 700).

Here's a photo from the Marklin 1940 catalog, you can see it has similarities to this Prototype but also different from the actual production T 800.

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With prototypes and everything really one must be careful. Typically because this is a rather unknown auction house for Marklin one would think it'd be original pieces coming from the original owners. BUT that's not always the case - pieces original and fake can travel the world and show up in different places. It's difficult to really say anything about this piece here - so I'll refrain from commentary on originality but just a general word of caution.

All the best,

Paul
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Offline SteamNut  
#4 Posted : 01 March 2019 16:54:07(UTC)
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As they say one is born every minute BigGrin
Offline MalinAC  
#5 Posted : 01 March 2019 17:53:07(UTC)
MalinAC

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Does anybody want my t800.3 going cheap at 5000 euro and it even has a box. Must be bargin of the year. Comes with free period dust. Eddie Drool Drool
Offline mbarreto  
#6 Posted : 01 March 2019 18:18:06(UTC)
mbarreto

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After look at the TW 800 G auction in the link below, maybe that T700 is not so expensive: ;)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Markl...8909e0ffecd3fd%7Ciid%3A1




Mostly Märklin H0.


Offline CCS800KrokHunter3  
#7 Posted : 01 March 2019 19:01:10(UTC)
CCS800KrokHunter3

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Hi Marklin friends,

I've found the images that I remembered, they are scattered throughout catalogs.

In the 1939 Neuheiten-Prospekt (new items announcements) we see the T 700. And funny enough right next to it a T 800 pack. This is the highest resolution I have at the moment. It's possible that this same loco appears in the 1938 announcement, but I don't own the catalog or have scans of it so I can't verify.

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And then also in the rare 1947 Neuheitenkatalog we see a similar locomotive, but closer to the T 800, just without the holes for the brushes. From the inside we can clearly see that it has an 800 series motor shield, there's just no holes for the brushes!

Screen Shot 2019-03-01 at 6.55.44 PM.png

Paul
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Offline Markus Schild  
#8 Posted : 01 March 2019 20:16:25(UTC)
Markus Schild

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Hi,

This is the picture from the 1938 new items catalogue.

T700.jpg

Regards

Markus
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Offline river6109  
#9 Posted : 02 March 2019 02:15:26(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: MalinAC Go to Quoted Post
Does anybody want my t800.3 going cheap at 5000 euro and it even has a box. Must be bargin of the year. Comes with free period dust. Eddie Drool Drool


Euro 4.999.00 sounds much betterBigGrin

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Offline ddtrain  
#10 Posted : 13 March 2019 20:00:36(UTC)
ddtrain

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The picture of the T 800 is probably printed wrong side from the negative. It happened more often with Marklin (RM 800, HR 800 N).

quote=CCS800KrokHunter3;587873]Hi Marklin friends,

I've found the images that I remembered, they are scattered throughout catalogs.

In the 1939 Neuheiten-Prospekt (new items announcements) we see the T 700. And funny enough right next to it a T 800 pack. This is the highest resolution I have at the moment. It's possible that this same loco appears in the 1938 announcement, but I don't own the catalog or have scans of it so I can't verify.

Screen Shot 2019-03-01 at 6.55.20 PM.png

And then also in the rare 1947 Neuheitenkatalog we see a similar locomotive, but closer to the T 800, just without the holes for the brushes. From the inside we can clearly see that it has an 800 series motor shield, there's just no holes for the brushes!

Screen Shot 2019-03-01 at 6.55.44 PM.png

Paul


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