 Joined: 27/03/2015(UTC) Posts: 194 Location: Orlando, FL
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Hey all - I was watching an auction this morning out of the UK and a Marklin T700 sold for a whopping 8,000 pounds (more than 10,000 with 21% BUYER'S PREMIUM) from Rogers Jones & Co.. Two collectors must have REALLY wanted this one and got into a bidding war. Hope no one has buyer's regrets...   Kurt |
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Joined: 10/02/2006(UTC) Posts: 3,997
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oh shit, I thought I bid £80.00
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Joined: 03/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,605
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Hi Kurt, A seemingly rare locomotive, a "Prototype" made of of brass of the T 800 but in the 700 series (therefore T 700). The box to me is not correct. I think this prototype must have been made 1937/1938 (maybe earlier?) because it must be before the first version T 800. I know I've seen this loco before pictured in a Marklin catalog or instruction sheet. I'll post it when I find it. There's also the RS 800 but in 700 series I believe (and different from the RS 700). Here's a photo from the Marklin 1940 catalog, you can see it has similarities to this Prototype but also different from the actual production T 800.  With prototypes and everything really one must be careful. Typically because this is a rather unknown auction house for Marklin one would think it'd be original pieces coming from the original owners. BUT that's not always the case - pieces original and fake can travel the world and show up in different places. It's difficult to really say anything about this piece here - so I'll refrain from commentary on originality but just a general word of caution. All the best, Paul |
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As they say one is born every minute 
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Does anybody want my t800.3 going cheap at 5000 euro and it even has a box. Must be bargin of the year. Comes with free period dust. Eddie 
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Best regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.
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Hi Marklin friends, I've found the images that I remembered, they are scattered throughout catalogs. In the 1939 Neuheiten-Prospekt (new items announcements) we see the T 700. And funny enough right next to it a T 800 pack. This is the highest resolution I have at the moment. It's possible that this same loco appears in the 1938 announcement, but I don't own the catalog or have scans of it so I can't verify.  And then also in the rare 1947 Neuheitenkatalog we see a similar locomotive, but closer to the T 800, just without the holes for the brushes. From the inside we can clearly see that it has an 800 series motor shield, there's just no holes for the brushes!  Paul |
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Hi, This is the picture from the 1938 new items catalogue.  Regards Markus
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Euro 4.999.00 sounds much better |
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The picture of the T 800 is probably printed wrong side from the negative. It happened more often with Marklin (RM 800, HR 800 N). quote=CCS800KrokHunter3;587873]Hi Marklin friends, I've found the images that I remembered, they are scattered throughout catalogs. In the 1939 Neuheiten-Prospekt (new items announcements) we see the T 700. And funny enough right next to it a T 800 pack. This is the highest resolution I have at the moment. It's possible that this same loco appears in the 1938 announcement, but I don't own the catalog or have scans of it so I can't verify. And then also in the rare 1947 Neuheitenkatalog we see a similar locomotive, but closer to the T 800, just without the holes for the brushes. From the inside we can clearly see that it has an 800 series motor shield, there's just no holes for the brushes! Paul
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Joined: 03/04/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,605
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Hi Marklin friends, I don't mean to revive an old thread but while browsing auctions I saw something out of the ordinary. A lot of 700/800 series locos went for over $5K! What could be so valuable? A normal HR 700 and some 700 series chassis. But in a closer look that is no T 800 but a T 700 - look at the pick-up shoe and the reversing lever in the back! https://rover.ebay.com/r...%3Dnc%26orig_cvip%3DtrueAll the best, Paul |
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Joined: 13/03/2012(UTC) Posts: 233 Location: Perth
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Paul
Have you been following this sellers other auctions. He just keeps on bringing out gem after gem. He had a couple of auction finishing yesterday. I was interested in a collection of wagon wheels and claw couplers from 35 series coaches. They sold for $300 plus. The seller has picked up what must have been a large collection and is getting unbelievable prices.
Roger
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Hi Roger,
Yes I've been following the auctions - some really great items. The two first version green SK 800s were really nice too (especially after some restoration).
Paul |
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Joined: 27/03/2015(UTC) Posts: 194 Location: Orlando, FL
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Originally Posted by: Tiki734  ...l
Have you been following this sellers other auctions. Roger - The seller is liquidating a large pre-war collection for a collector whom I know at our quarterly train shows here in Florida (USA). I have bought several of the items that he was selling, not for me, but for an international friend, whom I will help with shipping logistics. I don't collect such early pieces (yet anyway), but this collection is special and, as you point out, has been seen around the world thanks to eBay's exposure. The prices realized do indeed indicate the rarity of the pieces even in questionable condition. Next month I will see the collector and spend some time getting learning about the backstory to this collection. I don't know about you, but I really enjoy the "where did it come from" stories... I'll share the details that I learn with the group. Kurt |
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