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Offline mattj70  
#1 Posted : 01 March 2019 20:25:33(UTC)
mattj70

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Location: Hudson FL
Hello,

I have had my Swiss Starter set for a long time? 2009? 08? don't recall when I bought the Central Station. My Mobile Station still works fine, however the Central Station has lots of issues running???? Engines stop, go, stop??? I have attempted to update the unit in past with no luck. Again attempted today. I paid? around $700 for it new. I have cleaned tracks C-tracks, I have removed Central Station, then put on Mobile Station run same engine on track only runs fine. The same tracks same engine Central couldn't seem to make go?

Is it time to pony up and buy newer unit? or just live with Mobile Station.

I never did anything with Central Station other than run engines, never programmed anything else, or designed track, programmed switches etc. Just entered engines and ran them.

Any ideas?

Matt
Offline David Dewar  
#2 Posted : 01 March 2019 20:38:34(UTC)
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Have you checked all the wiring from the CS to the track. Might be worth renewing that. If you are not using the facilities of the CS then probably a MS is the way to go. However if you want to add all or some of the things a CS can do then go for a CS3 but first make sure that it is only a small problem with your CS2. which can easily be sorted.
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Offline mattj70  
#3 Posted : 01 March 2019 20:56:27(UTC)
mattj70

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wiring seems to me to be perfect, however I'm no electrician
Offline TEEWolf  
#4 Posted : 01 March 2019 21:41:39(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mattj70 Go to Quoted Post
wiring seems to me to be perfect, however I'm no electrician


How did you connect your MS 2 to your layout? Via a track box or did you connect the MS 2 into your CS 2 and your CS 2 is connected to the layout? If you used a track box, try it via your CS 2 again, please.
Offline franciscohg  
#5 Posted : 01 March 2019 22:04:51(UTC)
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Do you have the MS connected to the CS when the problem arises?
If so, since a couple of upgrades I have troubles like that when running with a 60125 and MS connected to it. A bug in the CAN seems likely to me. Solved running the CS with nothing attached to it.
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Offline mattj70  
#6 Posted : 01 March 2019 22:07:10(UTC)
mattj70

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no luck there? good idea! I am testing my engine collection on the Mobile Station from Swiss set 29481 almost all engines work, I think I may have programmed some engine to addresses I don't know now? Have to figure that out as well.
Offline kiwiAlan  
#7 Posted : 02 March 2019 12:25:21(UTC)
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What power supply are you using with the cs2?

Offline siroljuk  
#8 Posted : 02 March 2019 12:36:23(UTC)
siroljuk

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Hello,
If you have connected terminal 60125 or 60126 to the CS then take it away and try if that helps.

I have few months ago a slightly broken terminal 60125 connected and symptoms were just like yours.
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Regards

Jukka
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#9 Posted : 02 March 2019 19:19:23(UTC)
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Check the polarity of the track output wires from your CS2 to the track against the picture given in the CS2 manual. Getting that wrong can cause weird things to happen.
Offline jaseguvi  
#10 Posted : 02 March 2019 21:08:30(UTC)
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Goodnight. I had the same problem with the previous update, I have updated to 4.2.8 and everything works OK.
Luck
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#11 Posted : 02 March 2019 21:52:23(UTC)
Bigdaddynz

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Originally Posted by: jaseguvi Go to Quoted Post


Goodnight. I had the same problem with the previous update, I have updated to 4.2.8 and everything works OK.


Really??

That sounds like an incomplete or corrupted update. I've never had any issues with any of the updates.
Offline mike c  
#12 Posted : 03 March 2019 02:27:15(UTC)
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1) Perform an update on your CS to make sure that it has the complete/non-corrupted software.
I don't know if there is a procedure to undo a prior update or whether the only solution is to reinstall the latest version.

2) Connect the leads for the programming/test track and see if that functions correctly.

3) Connect the leads for the layout (to a test track) and see if that functions correctly. If yes, connect to your normal layout and see if everything works as intended.

If that fails, send an email to digital(at)marlin.com with a description of the problem and see if Marklin's experts can be of assistance.

Regards

Mike C

Offline jaseguvi  
#13 Posted : 03 March 2019 19:50:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: jaseguvi Go to Quoted Post


Goodnight. I had the same problem with the previous update, I have updated to 4.2.8 and everything works OK.


Really??

That sounds like an incomplete or corrupted update. I've never had any issues with any of the updates.


Yes, really.
Story
1, I update to 4-2-1 with pendrive.
2, I put the model to work. at ten minutes, the center is off. I look at everything and everything, everything OK. I turn everything OK again.
3, several days with the same failure.
4, I update via internet.
6, I put the model to work and now it restarts itself. sometimes at five minutes other times at ninety.
7. spend several days and I return to update.
8. BINGO! a warning appears on the screen and it is restarted.
9. More days and new update. I do not lose patience
10. More days and new update.
11. BINGO does not restart, the warning continues on the screen and several locomotives do not control the speed.
12, I update to 4-2-8 All OK
Thank you for your patience and forgive my English
Offline waorb  
#14 Posted : 04 March 2019 13:56:25(UTC)
waorb

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Hello.

Just a quick reply...

Yesterday I made the CS2 update here "over-the-net", and all was done flawlessly.

I don't know if it was normal, but needed 2 extra reboots to update the TFP, or something like, that popped on the screen.

Cheers,

Walter
Offline H0  
#15 Posted : 04 March 2019 14:08:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: waorb Go to Quoted Post
I don't know if it was normal, but needed 2 extra reboots to update the TFP, or something like, that popped on the screen.
Do you have external boosters? I think one reboot for each external booster is normal.

Regards
Tom
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Offline jaseguvi  
#16 Posted : 04 March 2019 19:13:49(UTC)
jaseguvi


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Originally Posted by: waorb Go to Quoted Post
Hello.

Just a quick reply...

Yesterday I made the CS2 update here "over-the-net", and all was done flawlessly.

I don't know if it was normal, but needed 2 extra reboots to update the TFP, or something like, that popped on the screen.

Cheers,

Walter


Good afternoon
Have you updated from 3.7.0?
It's like that
Cheers
Offline waorb  
#17 Posted : 04 March 2019 19:32:23(UTC)
waorb

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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: waorb Go to Quoted Post
I don't know if it was normal, but needed 2 extra reboots to update the TFP, or something like, that popped on the screen.
Do you have external boosters? I think one reboot for each external booster is normal.



Hello Tom.

Never realized that, but yes, I have one extra booster. (and of course, one main power supply)

Thanks!

Walter

Offline waorb  
#18 Posted : 04 March 2019 19:35:05(UTC)
waorb

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Originally Posted by: jaseguvi Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: waorb Go to Quoted Post
Hello.
Just a quick reply...
Yesterday I made the CS2 update here "over-the-net", and all was done flawlessly.
I don't know if it was normal, but needed 2 extra reboots to update the TFP, or something like, that popped on the screen.
Cheers,
Walter


Good afternoon
Have you updated from 3.7.0?
It's like that
Cheers


Hello!

No, it was from the last major update (4.2.1).

Walter
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