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Minibahn		#1 Posted : 02 January 2009 18:38:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/05/2004(UTC) Posts: 137 Location: ,		Hello, sorry, text is in english. http://www.kali-lok.de/s.../media/Mobile%202009.pdf The features : 10 locomotives from enginelist 1 locomotive added by enginecard. Red illuminated button. 1.9 A power in the Trackbox (no longer in the Mobile station). Two independent MS, connected to the trackbox, no master and slave. With 2 MS are 2 x 10 locomotives (+ 2x engine cards engines) controllable. Backlighted display AND 320 turnouts/signals !!!
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steventrain		#2 Posted : 02 January 2009 18:57:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,723 Location: United Kingdom		Very good, Thanks for the link. You mean 320 switches? is that the Turnout/signal?
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mmervine		#3 Posted : 02 January 2009 19:04:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,895 Location: Keene, NH		This will be a really nice addition to Marklin Digital!
		Märklin C-track, Marklin Digital & ECoS, multi-era French & Swiss http://www.ete-ene.org/m...mervines-layout-gallery/
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Minibahn		#4 Posted : 02 January 2009 19:08:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/05/2004(UTC) Posts: 137 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br />Very good, Thanks for the link. You mean 320 switches? is that the Turnout/signal? Hello, yes
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steventrain		#5 Posted : 02 January 2009 19:11:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,723 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Minibahn <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br />Very good, Thanks for the link. You mean 320 switches? is that the Turnout/signal? Hello, yes Thanks for the reply.
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SierraDelta		#6 Posted : 02 January 2009 19:13:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 26/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 126 Location: Brussels, Belgium		Very, very nice indeed, I'm definitely getting one!
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Davy		#7 Posted : 02 January 2009 21:22:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		Is this real our is it maked up.
		M-track with a CS2.
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Frostie		#8 Posted : 02 January 2009 21:33:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,614 Location: Birmingham,Alabama		Is it wired connection to CS, or is it wireless ??
		Train Collection Insured by "Croc's" with "Big Boys" as Backup" CS/MS Digital Era 1/2 Apple Man iPhone / Macbook Pro / iPad - the end of the windows PC occurred on April 4, 2010. Love those Era 1 Tank Locomotives - the more the merrier.
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noel		#9 Posted : 02 January 2009 22:28:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 6 Location: ,		Hello This new mobil is wireless ( without cable ) It will be a lot of new start box with this new MS2. One is with 3 loks !! and a very big circuit, like C1-C2-C3 and C4 I don't have photo today, sorry Noel
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clapcott		#10 Posted : 02 January 2009 22:38:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,450 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Oh dear, I do wish these guys would be more professional with their leaks/drafts
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clapcott		#11 Posted : 02 January 2009 22:48:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,450 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by noel <br />Hello This new mobil is wireless ( without cable ) It will be a lot of new start box with this new MS2. One is with 3 loks !! and a very big circuit, like C1-C2-C3 and C4 I don't have photo today, sorry Noel Do you mean something like ... http://www.kali-lok.de/shop/images/29015.jpg as seen on ... http://www.kali-lok.de/shop/index.php Interestingly - the Gleisanschlussbox is not pictured
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noel		#12 Posted : 02 January 2009 23:02:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 6 Location: ,		thanks i see this post this photo after mine. And just for info, because I don't have detail, Trix has the same new mobil station, but for DCC and with green button.There is too One Start box. Noel
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Larry		#13 Posted : 02 January 2009 23:10:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/11/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,443 Location: Northeast Ohio		Anyone know anything about the suggested retail cost?
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Frostie		#14 Posted : 02 January 2009 23:17:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,614 Location: Birmingham,Alabama		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by clapcott <br />Oh dear, I do wish these guys would be more professional with their leaks/drafts ???????
		Train Collection Insured by "Croc's" with "Big Boys" as Backup" CS/MS Digital Era 1/2 Apple Man iPhone / Macbook Pro / iPad - the end of the windows PC occurred on April 4, 2010. Love those Era 1 Tank Locomotives - the more the merrier.
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Webmaster		#15 Posted : 03 January 2009 02:07:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2001(UTC) Posts: 11,165		Noel, as I read the announcement - the MS2 is connected to a new track box or CS2 with cable... I just wonder how it can be wireless, since the CS2 is not and I have not heard of any wireless receiver units yet in the new CS2 environment... Do you have more information?
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Davy		#16 Posted : 03 January 2009 02:27:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		It is not wireless. May be the expensive version which you can buy apart.
		M-track with a CS2.
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Frostie		#17 Posted : 03 January 2009 02:43:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,614 Location: Birmingham,Alabama		Boo - why have a new mobile controller that is not truly Mobile ???
		Train Collection Insured by "Croc's" with "Big Boys" as Backup" CS/MS Digital Era 1/2 Apple Man iPhone / Macbook Pro / iPad - the end of the windows PC occurred on April 4, 2010. Love those Era 1 Tank Locomotives - the more the merrier.
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Bigdaddynz		#18 Posted : 03 January 2009 03:11:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Maybe Marklin is wanting to compete with the ECoSControl Radio, given CS1 users with the ESU v3.0 will be able to use the ECoSControl Radio with their CS1.
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kresten		#19 Posted : 03 January 2009 11:20:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/06/2008(UTC) Posts: 8 Location: Copenhagen,		I cannot find neither the starter set nor the new mobile station announced on Märklin's own website. Anybody got a link - or more info than is on the posted flyer from Kali-Lok ?
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Bigdaddynz		#20 Posted : 03 January 2009 12:00:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by clapcott <br />Oh dear, I do wish these guys would be more professional with their leaks/drafts How can they? People are only relating information they come across on the internet. If you want 'professional' best to ignore everything until Marklin make an official announcement. Having said that, most of the information posted usually turns out to be fairly accurate.
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Bigdaddynz		#21 Posted : 03 January 2009 12:06:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Additional starter sets with MS2 have been posted to the Kali-lok shop website (most of which appear to be the same sets as currently available, but with a MS2 rather than MS1. http://www.kali-lok.de/s.../c97_Neuheiten-2009.html Also note CS2 at 479 euros! (This is a CS1 trade up price)
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Bigdaddynz		#22 Posted : 03 January 2009 13:21:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Also the following info from Thomas in the 'M 2009 new items' thread Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by H0 <br />More information about new M* starter sets can be found here: http://modellbahn-west.de/ then click News, then click the starter set (PDF file with 27 pages).
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nevw		#23 Posted : 03 January 2009 13:30:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		UGH 960 AUD for a trade in NO NO nO
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Bigdaddynz		#24 Posted : 03 January 2009 13:33:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Well they give you 220 euros trade in (550 NZD). I doubt I would get much more selling 2nd hand. However, I would want to keep my CS1.
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jeehring		#25 Posted : 03 January 2009 14:05:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		As for me, I don't consider wireless as a top priority for our hobby. I find it fine & Okay for mobile phones , and all things like that... Our hobby is mostly Visual ( contemplative ), so you always have to stand near a layout to use it, to avoid "accidents" or to enjoy the scenery. A wireless mobile phone has a sense .It gives you mobility , like a car : it's also a tool of freedom ... What about a wireless command station for trains !!! [:p] it has less sense - IMHO (of course !). We never have to drive a train when we are at the first floor while the layout is at the second floor .( When not considered for what it really is in our hobby - a secondary feature - I'm even not far to consider it as a con . Wireless modules INSIDE a layout looks a more interesting idea, as it brings you less wiring & easy installation...) About a central station , between me and my layout : " wireless" could be a small element of comfort . A very small one , only . If I had to choose for a given price, I do prefer the integrated card-reader ! IMHO, this card reader is a great idea !
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RayF		#26 Posted : 03 January 2009 14:15:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,873 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Very true, Roland. A wireless MS would be a good idea for a large scale garden layout, where you could walk around following your train as you drive it. Maybe not so useful for a normal indoor layout, unless it's to reduce the likelihood of tripping over a cable! Ray
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jeehring		#27 Posted : 03 January 2009 14:35:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas <br />Very true, Roland. A wireless MS would be a good idea for a large scale garden layout, where you could walk around following your train as you drive it. Maybe not so useful for a normal indoor layout, unless it's to reduce the likelihood of tripping over a cable! Ray Absolutely Ray ! An interesting thing for large garden layouts, I agree .
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Frostie		#28 Posted : 03 January 2009 14:38:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,614 Location: Birmingham,Alabama		wireless makes sense to me for the simple reason that there is no cable, and it offers complkete freedom of ampvement around the layout. A cable unfortunately limits you in some way or another. A wireless antenna could be plugged into the USB port just like wireless mouses ? You woulkd need some software. I liked Marklin Digital because you could run a layout with just two wires from the controller to the track. Simple and effortless for those non electricians among us. So, I will wait to buy a true mobile station.
		Train Collection Insured by "Croc's" with "Big Boys" as Backup" CS/MS Digital Era 1/2 Apple Man iPhone / Macbook Pro / iPad - the end of the windows PC occurred on April 4, 2010. Love those Era 1 Tank Locomotives - the more the merrier.
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jeehring		#29 Posted : 03 January 2009 15:07:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Frostie <br />wireless makes sense to me for the simple reason that there is no cable, and it offers complkete freedom of ampvement around the layout. Oh dear, it's a matter of taste ! A CS2 allows you the connection of 36 Mobile Stations !( anyway, a big layout needs power ) In this case , my suggestion could be : going around the layout from one Mobile Station to another Mobile Station .( and plug the Loco-card ! ) Loco-cards are wireless too !
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James		#30 Posted : 03 January 2009 17:54:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 384 Location: Alberta		Hello all: Wireless makes very good sense to me as well, it helps if you have to utilize two rooms for your layout . Unfortunately, I live in Canada, and they (marklin) can't get their wireless system past our federal agencies. Oh well, that's why we have computer control
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DasBert33		#31 Posted : 03 January 2009 19:56:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,287		Any chance on it being somewhat compatible with a CS1/Ecos, even with reduced capability?
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hemau		#32 Posted : 03 January 2009 20:16:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/01/2007(UTC) Posts: 589 Location: The Netherlands		MS 2 looks like a great improvement to earlier sets. However, and I'm only talking about a layout in an area of 5 m by 2 m, a wireless controller would be of real help. I've still got a extension cable for MS on my wish-list (it exists, I know!). The idea of some tenfolds of MS's around the layout, look like a nightmare to me. REgards, Henk.
		C and M track; CS1R and 2 MS
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Caboose		#33 Posted : 03 January 2009 20:56:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/05/2007(UTC) Posts: 187 Location: , Sweden		Hi Folks! I also think that the new MS-2 will be nice. But, I dont get it. In 2-rail DCC there have been wireless operation possible for meny years. Why not Marklin? I see it as a BIG thing to get rid of that umbilical cord!
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clapcott		#34 Posted : 03 January 2009 22:05:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,450 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jeehring .... A CS2 allows you the connection of 36 Mobile Stations ! ... Please quote source of this information.
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clapcott		#35 Posted : 03 January 2009 22:37:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,450 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		<Wireless> Guys it has nothing to do with having Wireless or Not. We are well past that technologically, so can we get past these "each to his own" ideals. Wireless solutions already exist. If Marklin do not provide a solution then use another option - one that best meets your particular requirements If/When they do, I expect the usual outcries about expense, rather than accentuating the benefits Now if you are talking about "how" and "how well" the solutions work, and any guarantee that the components work well together, I would opt for standards rather than bespoke solutions that require R&D and paperwork. - IR - does work - line of sight considerations - RF - Garage door openers/Model planes (27MHz model band has been around for decades) - Bluetooth - limited range and there is the RF noise susceptibility - 802.11x - better and nice range around the house - Mobile/Cellphone - cost of phone calls - Voice Recognition - ambient noise issue - OK with headset At the remote/console end - iPhone and similar devices have offer a technological platform and software capabilities to tailor for the model railroader. At the CU end, anything with a working PC interface (IB/605x serial , CS1 ethernet, CS2 alas not yet, <DCC>Loconet USB) can use the PC as the gateway. As already mentioned the CS2 does have a USB port that can accommodate standard PC communications devices directly. I cannot recall when ULM university first put there train layout online and offered the ability to select trains over the internet, but in combination with my wireless PC I have had this sort of untethered control of activities half a world away for 5 years plus.
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Maxi		#36 Posted : 03 January 2009 22:43:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 757 Location: Wawa, Ontario		Well said Clapcott. Just because something is new, doesn't mean that all the bells and whistles will be available now. Sometimes the older or original products work just as good or better. I still use my trusty 6021 even though I also have a 6023, 6027, IB, CS1, CS2, MS and a ECOS. I still like the 6021 for its simplicity and quick startup.
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clapcott		#37 Posted : 03 January 2009 22:46:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,450 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Maxi <br />... Sometimes the older or original products work just as good or better. Oh sooooo true.
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clapcott		#38 Posted : 03 January 2009 23:00:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,450 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Frostie <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by clapcott <br />Oh dear, I do wish these guys would be more professional with their leaks/drafts ??????? The (various) pdfs circulated are doctored and there sources (idenified in the author section) include Stummi. While there is bound to be some substance I do not consider it authoritative and certainly not complete.
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jeehring		#39 Posted : 04 January 2009 01:12:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by clapcott <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jeehring .... A CS2 allows you the connection of 36 Mobile Stations ! ... Please quote source of this information. It's not sourced . It's not really an info ( I didn't claim to give an information) It's only my own deduction + an expression ( In French it's a way of talking. To say "plenty of" or "several" we sometimes say "36") About my deduction : which is not consciously sustained , just something I have in mind since The CS 1 CAN bus allows more than 30 MS ( I'm sure about it. But I don't remember how much exactly 33 or 35, or....) As a CS2 is also connected to a CAN Bus, just take it as a hotchpotch swiftly made by someone who wrote without thinking... ( only light variations about the interest of wireless commands in our hobby) Thank you
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kgsjoqvist		#40 Posted : 05 January 2009 11:36:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 754 Location: Täby		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Minibahn <br />Hello, sorry, text is in english. http://www.kali-lok.de/s.../media/Mobile%202009.pdf The features : 10 locomotives from enginelist 1 locomotive added by enginecard. Red illuminated button. 1.9 A power in the Trackbox (no longer in the Mobile station). Two independent MS, connected to the trackbox, no master and slave. With 2 MS are 2 x 10 locomotives (+ 2x engine cards engines) controllable. Backlighted display AND 320 turnouts/signals !!! Time to buy a new starter set, perhaps? I'm currently using the MS and this new version seems to fill in the gaps of the previous one. + It handles all 16 functions of mfx locos (just wonder if it can handle 4+4 functions on locos with 2 addresses as well...) + It can switch accessories - a very good improvement, since now I can wire all accessories to track power if I want to. + Background lit display and stop button + The card reader simplifies life when the collection of digital locos grows past 10... - The control knob has been moved to center, but I liked the old way of controlling it with the right thumb. I can't see from this information whether or not it is possible to connect an old MS to the same track box as slave. I guess it will be, since CS2 has only one kind of connector for the MS. The booster part included in MS will not be used in that case, but that also means the limitation of power (1,2A) is removed.
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M Neilson		#41 Posted : 06 January 2009 12:32:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/12/2007(UTC) Posts: 43 Location: Gore, Southland		I would like also like to see the new mobile station come out in an infra red/wireless verision. This will definitely be on my want list for this year
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tekin65		#42 Posted : 06 January 2009 14:19:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,151 Location: istanbul,		Hi, Do we have price info on MS2? Cem.
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WelshMatt		#43 Posted : 06 January 2009 15:52:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,345 Location: ,		Lenz did come up with a neat way around the problem of getting their wireless controller approved in different countries. They just made a box that allows you to connect a standard cordless phone to your digital control system. You don't get a display and you have to remember which buttons do what, but considering how cheap it is and how well it works I have no problem with that. I managed to find a (new) phone for £15 and the Lenz box for £40, the resulting setup would only have range problems on truly gigantic layouts.
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john black		#44 Posted : 06 January 2009 16:02:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Maxi <br />Sometimes the older or original products work just as good or better. I still use my trusty 6021 ... still like the 6021 for its simplicity and quick startup. [^][^][^] ... well, just ask M's new management types what's a 6021. They'd think you're talkin about weather on Mars ... [}:)]
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steventrain		#45 Posted : 06 January 2009 18:24:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,723 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by tekin65 <br />Hi, Do we have price info on MS2? Cem. About same or little more.
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Goofy		#46 Posted : 11 January 2009 12:13:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,320		It will cost more,because more advanced functions. Fleischmanns new PROFI-BOX cost about 150 euro. So i wonder if this will become in the same pricelist as Fleischmanns...? Goofy
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H0		#47 Posted : 11 January 2009 16:13:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,488 Location: DE-NW		Hello! Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by tekin65 <br />Do we have price info on MS2? The RRP for #29482 (with new MS) is the same as for #29481 (with old MS). So in the long run the new MS will be available at the same price as the old MS. When the first starter sets are out the price for the new MS will probably be higher - but if you can wait until the hype is over ... ... or if you buy a complete starter set ...
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LokSound		#48 Posted : 12 January 2009 15:07:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 45 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by DasBert33 <br />Any chance on it being somewhat compatible with a CS1/Ecos, even with reduced capability? in that case you better wait for the ECoSControl Radio.
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DasBert33		#49 Posted : 12 January 2009 15:53:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,287		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by LokSound in that case you better wait for the ECoSControl Radio. Im not interested in wireless control, and the associated always-emtpy batteries and bad reception when you need reliability. Furthermore the ecoscontrol radio will be a lot more expensive compared to a mobile station that is virtually free when purchased with a starterset. I assume your answer was a disguised 'NO'?
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kgsjoqvist		#50 Posted : 12 January 2009 16:21:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 754 Location: Täby		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy <br />It will cost more,because more advanced functions. Fleischmanns new PROFI-BOX cost about 150 euro. So i wonder if this will become in the same pricelist as Fleischmanns...? Goofy I don't think it will be more expensive than Mobile Station (1,9A). It is basically the same hardware include, and the manufacturing cost should be the same or lower. However, I doubt that the MS2 will be available in the same volumes on Ebay for a nickle and a dime. The positioning of this product is a bit higher and it will probably not be available in the cheapest starter sets. They will be delivered with the simple IR remote instead.
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