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Offline mmervine  
#1 Posted : 24 November 2018 14:45:27(UTC)
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Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 24 November 2018 14:55:26(UTC)
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Regards
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Offline RayF  
#3 Posted : 24 November 2018 19:46:01(UTC)
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I'm sure this will be very welcome news for 3-rail modellers of american prototypes. The fact that it's available in four different liveries makes it even better!
Ray
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Offline dzug  
#4 Posted : 24 November 2018 20:04:05(UTC)
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Interesting - when I was at the Cologne IMA a couple weeks ago ESU had the Santa Fe version running on their layout and I think I assumed it was just a demo for the LokSound decoders. I would have looked closer if I had known it was a new ESU product.
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Offline michelvr  
#5 Posted : 24 November 2018 20:34:11(UTC)
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Now I have to say that this NEW ESU SD-40-2 is going to turn heads and empty wallets in North America.

When it comes to ESU their name says it all, “Especially Sensationally Unmistakable!” That's ESU! Okay, okay I made it up but it done ring true, their products are wonderful, bar none!
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Offline H0  
#6 Posted : 24 November 2018 20:55:57(UTC)
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As I understand it they should offer (at least) four different road numbers for each livery to maximise the success on the US market. More road numbers may follow if the locos are successful.
Regards
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Offline Leitner  
#7 Posted : 24 November 2018 22:41:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
As I understand it they should offer (at least) four different road numbers for each livery to maximise the success on the US market. More road numbers may follow if the locos are successful.


This would make sense because these locos are used in compositions which requires multiple engines but I don't see this from ESU's website
Ep. III (My layout is set in 1962).
I collect mainly DSB, DB and SBB but I'm quite... Open minded.
I'm quite a big collector of NOHAB lok :)
Offline mmervine  
#8 Posted : 25 November 2018 01:03:28(UTC)
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It will be interesting to see how successful these will be. Several manufacturers (Athearn, Bachmann, Bowser, Broadway Ltd, Kato, Intermountain, & Scale Trains) have recently released the SD40-2 and some of these use ESU decoders.
Märklin C-track, Marklin Digital & ECoS, multi-era French & Swiss
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Offline river6109  
#9 Posted : 25 November 2018 05:19:16(UTC)
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I think ESU North America made a huge impact to modellers in this country with their diesel motor Loksound decoders (Loksound Select = only available through ESU North America) with so many prototypical variants and different chimes/horns/headlight arrangements, they've supplied a hungry market for authentic sounds and other unique features, however some modellers may shy away from the locos 4 rubber tyres., time will tell.

John
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Offline jvuye  
#10 Posted : 25 November 2018 18:23:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mmervine Go to Quoted Post


Derfinitely looks like a winner to me!
Jacques Vuye aka Dr.Eisenbahn
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Offline Goofy  
#11 Posted : 26 November 2018 08:42:19(UTC)
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Amazing!
Next step will be american steam locomotive too?
H0
DCC = Digital Command Control
Offline river6109  
#12 Posted : 26 November 2018 11:30:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Amazing!
Next step will be american steam locomotive too?


could be possible with other American steam loco select sound files available.

John

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Offline Marius in Africa  
#13 Posted : 27 November 2018 18:04:17(UTC)
Marius in Africa

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This is fantastic news for me.ThumpUp
I tried unsuccessfully to convert American sourced versions of the GP35 & SD70ACe locos to C-track before.

My other ESU models please me very much with their quality.
Have reserved the Union Pacific and Santa Fe version at my dealer. BigGrin BigGrin
Any one here with info on the couplers on the models? My USA rolling stock is all Marklin sourced.

Now at least i have hope again for the SD70Ace as well. Are you listening ESU?



Marius in Africa

HO, ECoS 2, Märklin C-track, any country, any design, any era & any brand which i like.
Offline Caboose  
#14 Posted : 09 November 2019 11:31:57(UTC)
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Any news about the Sd40-2 from ESU ?

On all pictures it seams as this is actually models
from Scale Trains. They make their models with
ESU electronics, so a joint cooperation to make
the locos is very likely.

I like the Union Pacific # 3773,
but i dont like the small box in rear of the left
cab side. That small box push the numbers a bit
forward, so 3773 is not in the center of the cab.

It does not look good, and it seams that this
small box only was mounted on a few locos.
Much better without that small box.

The result is something like this:
|3773' |

Instead of this:
|3773|
Sweden & USA
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Offline Marius in Africa  
#15 Posted : 25 December 2019 19:35:27(UTC)
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Item 31450 (Topeka & Sante Fe 5128) is now being shipped. Don't know about the other versions.
Marius in Africa

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#16 Posted : 31 January 2020 11:39:06(UTC)
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Has anyone already received an exemplar?
Online mbarreto  
#17 Posted : 31 January 2020 15:57:12(UTC)
mbarreto

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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Has anyone already received an exemplar?


In Youtube there are a few videos if search with keywords: ESU SD40

It seems impressive. the sound is also impressive but it seems that after 5 minutes if it is not turned off, or at least turned quieter, it may make some of the listeners have a headache :) I am a bit sensitive to some loco sounds, as for example the Märklin crocos make me a bit headache if playing for more then 5 minutes or so...

One of the videos:



Best regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline Marius in Africa  
#18 Posted : 31 January 2020 18:36:37(UTC)
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Is the sound prototypical correct?
Marius in Africa

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Offline jvuye  
#19 Posted : 31 January 2020 23:57:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Marius in Africa Go to Quoted Post
Is the sound prototypical correct?


Having experienced the sound of the real thing "up close and personal" when I lived in the US, I can certainly vouch for it.
Besides It's even more "natural" than most models because on this one you can keep the loco running with the engine idling, which is definitely often the case in reality.
If the're is one that sound "true", this is the one IMHO
Jacques Vuye aka Dr.Eisenbahn
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Offline Tower  
#20 Posted : 07 February 2020 07:51:18(UTC)
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I received my BNSF version earlier in the week, we tested it at the dealer, worked fine for about two minutes, took her home, placed her on the track and as soon as I hit the "Stop Bar" on my CS3 a short was immediately created by the ESU loco.

I moved the loco to the programming track, the same thing happened.

According to my dealer, many Europe based dealers do not ship these loco's anymore due to the number of comebacks and DOA units. My other local dealer in South Africa's response when I told about this was " I will not touch those locomotives" .

Has anyone else on the forum had this experience?

It's a pity, I is a very good looking locomotive.
Offline river6109  
#21 Posted : 07 February 2020 08:19:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Tower Go to Quoted Post
I received my BNSF version earlier in the week, we tested it at the dealer, worked fine for about two minutes, took her home, placed her on the track and as soon as I hit the "Stop Bar" on my CS3 a short was immediately created by the ESU loco.

I moved the loco to the programming track, the same thing happened.

According to my dealer, many Europe based dealers do not ship these loco's anymore due to the number of comebacks and DOA units. My other local dealer in South Africa's response when I told about this was " I will not touch those locomotives" .

Has anyone else on the forum had this experience?

It's a pity, I is a very good looking locomotive.


the only other thing I could recommend is take the housing off and see if you find anything unusual, as you said sending it back to Europe becomes expensive., if you can't find anything you may have to return it to ESU, what setting did you choose for your tracks ? its not set for DC ?

John
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Offline Goofy  
#22 Posted : 07 February 2020 08:35:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Tower Go to Quoted Post
I received my BNSF version earlier in the week, we tested it at the dealer, worked fine for about two minutes, took her home, placed her on the track and as soon as I hit the "Stop Bar" on my CS3 a short was immediately created by the ESU loco.

I moved the loco to the programming track, the same thing happened.

According to my dealer, many Europe based dealers do not ship these loco's anymore due to the number of comebacks and DOA units. My other local dealer in South Africa's response when I told about this was " I will not touch those locomotives" .

Has anyone else on the forum had this experience?

It's a pity, I is a very good looking locomotive.


the only other thing I could recommend is take the housing off and see if you find anything unusual, as you said sending it back to Europe becomes expensive., if you can't find anything you may have to return it to ESU, what setting did you choose for your tracks ? its not set for DC ?

John


It is possible a reseller did forgot to set back to ac after test without pick up shoe.
I recommended open the body and check if the switch are set correct.

H0
DCC = Digital Command Control
Offline Tower  
#23 Posted : 07 February 2020 09:39:05(UTC)
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Hi Goofy, John

Thanks for your replies, the switch was correctly set to AC on my layout.

Regards

Leon
Offline Alsterstreek  
#24 Posted : 31 August 2020 19:38:18(UTC)
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A Youtube video by a German Stummiforum member demonstrating a a clearance problem with the loco´s fuel tank colliding with Maerklin turnout lanterns (see 3:05-3:15):



In the Youtube comments and in below Stummiforum thread it is mentioned that the model is Scaletrains Rivet Counter SD40-2 sold by ESU. The Stummiforum thread addresses also the turnout lantern issue. Without lantern in place, there is no problem.

https://www.stummiforum.de/viewtopic.php?t=176219
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Offline Goofy  
#25 Posted : 02 September 2020 17:47:35(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
A Youtube video by a German Stummiforum member demonstrating a a clearance problem with the loco´s fuel tank colliding with Maerklin turnout lanterns (see 3:05-3:15):

In the Youtube comments and in below Stummiforum thread it is mentioned that the model is Scaletrains Rivet Counter SD40-2 sold by ESU. The Stummiforum thread addresses also the turnout lantern issue. Without lantern in place, there is no problem.

https://www.stummiforum.de/viewtopic.php?t=176219


Do you know why it happens so??
It is Märklins fault by place gear lever on the wrong side of the gear.
It is a design flaw of the C-tracks turnout.
In fact should Märklin place the gear lever on the straight side of the turnout.

H0
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#26 Posted : 03 September 2020 11:59:54(UTC)
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Well, American modelers don’t know such thing as a turnout lantern...
Offline Alsterstreek  
#27 Posted : 05 September 2020 20:57:41(UTC)
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I own two of these SD40-2 monsters by Mehano, which behave on C track, while the motor performance is more in the range of on/off.
IMG_9005.jpg
I am tempted to demote them to dummy status and create a three-locomotive "lash-up" dominated by an ESU 31450.

http://www.esu.eu/produk...n/baureihe-sd40-2-in-h0/
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