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 Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,692 Location: United Kingdom
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39650 BR65 Price 419 euro and set of three coaches for BR65 price 299 EURO.
Please vote. |
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 1 user liked this useful post by steventrain
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Joined: 25/07/2001(UTC)
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Voted no, not "my Era" - even if it looks absolutely lovely and I am very tempted to get it. Have to keep some self-discipline but I congratulate all Era III-IV DB modelers... Get it if you can... |
Juhan - "Webmaster", at your service...
He who asks a question is a fool for five minutes. He who does not ask a question remains a fool forever. [Old Chinese Proverb] |
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 Joined: 19/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,053
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Not interested - not Swiss or my era. A very nice model though! |
Modeling Immensee, mile/km 0 on the Gottard. SBB Era V.
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Joined: 19/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 60 Location: nj
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Great loco... I will wait for the version with boiler bands.... 
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 Joined: 03/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 2,764
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I'm interested in de locomotive. It's era III en a steam locomotive. And I love the SSN BR 65 018.
Have to think about the coaches. Those are already populated with preiserlein, have LED lights and conducting couplers. The cab control car has full light functions. So the price is not too steep I think
I already have Silberlinge with preiserlein and lights.
Probably no shuttle service for that train on my lay-out.
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Joined: 08/06/2012(UTC) Posts: 45
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I am interested in this nice sister loco of the SSN 65 018, which is still running in the Netherlands.
Regards Rob
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Joined: 27/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 5,862 Location: Leesburg,VA.USA
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I would not order this version but I agree with Mike that the version with boiler bands would be great! Peter. 
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Joined: 15/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,319 Location: Washington, Pacific Northwest
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Originally Posted by: steventrain  39650 BR65 Price 419 euro and set of three coaches for BR65 price 299 EURO.
Please vote. Bad poll given those 2 options My choice is : NO- Steam engines isn't my thing in general, its out of theme for my layout. |
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 Joined: 21/05/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,768 Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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It seems to me the poll is just asking if the price is acceptable or not. |
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 Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,919 Location: Auckland,
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Too expensive for what it is, but the real killer is the roof vents, they are just ugly. Compare that to Mikes Fulgurex model, and his is much nicer.
If they did a version with the more discreet vents, I might be able to look past the price.
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Joined: 21/07/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,358 Location: Houston, Texas
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Best regards,
Armando García
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Joined: 27/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 941 Location: Burney, CA
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I like the models even though they are not Era II. I buy all Insider Loks and related sets because they usually represent the cutting edge in Märklin techno. The prices seem reasonable for what one gets. Sadly, this is a prototype that was never in my era.  |
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Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,919 Location: Auckland,
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Originally Posted by: Armando Hi Armando, you are probably right, but I still prefer the look of the ones on the Fulgurex loco so I doubt I'll be lining up to spend my money on this one Cheers.... Mike
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Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Crozet, Virginia
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Originally Posted by: Minok
Bad poll given those 2 options
My choice is : NO- Steam engines isn't my thing in general, its out of theme for my layout.
I think we just need to view this poll for what it is actually asking. Assuming that this is something that fits on your layout, are you interested and willing to pay this much for this train? The price is irrelevant if you have no interest in these models because of what you collect. |
Regards,
Jim
I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time. |
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Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Crozet, Virginia
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Originally Posted by: Armando
From these images, I believe that the roof vents might not be too far off from the real thing:
I agree. I am not familiar with the prototype for this model but judging from those images Märklin's model looks more realistic than the vents on the Fulgurex model do. |
Regards,
Jim
I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time. |
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Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Crozet, Virginia
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster Voted no, not "my Era" - even if it looks absolutely lovely and I am very tempted to get it. Have to keep some self-discipline but I congratulate all Era III-IV DB modelers... Get it if you can... Early on I made the probably poor decision to collect what appealed to me regardless of a model's Era or country of origin. Self-discipline is definitely not my best feature.  Now my collection is richer while my bank account is poorer and luckily it is far too late for me to ever go back.  |
Regards,
Jim
I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time. |
1 user liked this useful post by dickinsonj
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Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC)
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Why to vote for this model?? You didn´t same way for all other Insider model and yes with high price too.  |
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 Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Why to vote for this model?? You didn´t same way for all other Insider model and yes with high price too. Why not? You are of course welcome to start a poll on all the other Insider models, but I somehow sense you're not all that interested in Marklin models anyway....  |
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,480 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot
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Originally Posted by: RayF Originally Posted by: Goofy Why to vote for this model?? You didn´t same way for all other Insider model and yes with high price too. Why not? You are of course welcome to start a poll on all the other Insider models, but I somehow sense you're not all that interested in Marklin models anyway.... No, he'll get the Trix one ...
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1 user liked this useful post by kiwiAlan
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Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Crozet, Virginia
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Goofy is certainly welcome to his negative views of Märklin products and free to not buy as many of their items as he wants. That leaves more of them for the rest of us to purchase. The part I don't get is why he feels the need to relentlessly post negative things about Märklin on a Märklin enthusiast website. Most of us come here to celebrate and discuss a favorite hobby not to argue with someone who does not share our love for these trains. |
Regards,
Jim
I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time. |
3 users liked this useful post by dickinsonj
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Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe
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Some people get pleasure from antagonising others. When done on the internet these people are usually called "trolls".
I have been trying to reason with Goofy (Anders) for the last few years, but it generally gets no-where. Generally I tend to ignore his comments, but sometimes I can't help myself and have to answer! |
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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 Joined: 25/08/2004(UTC) Posts: 332 Location: Madrid,
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Hello
I am interested in the loco, but not in the cars, they will be, probably, 30 cm long, and with the size they can't run in my layout, and the price is high. So I will try to buy only the loco BR 65, that is a very nice model.
Best regards |
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1 user liked this useful post by amartinezv
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Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,
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Even though it is not my era, I have to admit I am tempted... Good value on the set and the loco is a beauty.
No vote on the poll, though. The two answer possibilities are not exactly exhaustive. My response would be: "No, unfortunately not my era of interest" |
Sander
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 Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 811 Location: Kirseberg
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I voted no as it's looks uninteresting to me and Ive ordered the insider croc which I don't regret. |
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Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe
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As the poll is asking about the price I voted no. I do think it's a bit on the expensive side, even for an Insider model.
However this model would suit my layout perfectly. Tank engines, especially the larger ones like the Br65, are perfect for a small station like mine. If I can get one of these at a more reasonable price in the future I probably will go for it.
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Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Crozet, Virginia
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I can understand how this set is not right for some people and I like to see their posts which explain why. But to vote no on the price poll because you collect a different Era seems kind of messed up to me.
The question is "Is this train nice enough to justify the cost, yes or no". I think a separate poll on whether forum members will get this set and why would be very useful. Thinking about other forum member's decision points often helps to clarify my decision on models that I am not 100% sure on. |
Regards,
Jim
I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time. |
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 Joined: 27/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 327
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I have ordered the loco but not the coaches. |
Best regards
Martin |
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 Joined: 10/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,298 Location: Patagonia
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Perhaps only the loco, not my era.....sometimes I lack of self discipline thought.  |
 German trains era I-II and selected III, era depends on the mood, mostly Maerklin but i can be heretic if needed XD, heresy is no longer an issue.. LOL |
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Joined: 21/07/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,358 Location: Houston, Texas
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Already ordered 39650 today However, I will pass on the coach set, as I already have some Silberlinge from the first batch (43800, 43810, 43820). |
Best regards,
Armando García
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Joined: 08/05/2015(UTC) Posts: 572 Location: Tunbridge Wells, Kent, United Kingdom
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Originally Posted by: Armando Already ordered 39650 today However, I will pass on the coach set, as I already have some Silberlinge from the first batch (43800, 43810, 43820). I ordered today,but I will pass on the coaches. I have the 43800, 43810, 43820 and installed lights and Prieserlings.
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,772 Location: New Zealand
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan No, he'll get the Trix one ... Then he'll change his mind and get the Marklin one, and when it breaks he'll sell all of his MRR and go start all over again.... This model is quite expensive (but then M has just increased prices), and it doesn't really appeal to me, plus I have too many items on order as it is!
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Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Crozet, Virginia
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz This model is quite expensive (but then M has just increased prices), and it doesn't really appeal to me, plus I have too many items on order as it is! I am having double sticker shock on Märklin items at the moment. Their prices have indeed increased, and in some cases by quite a bit. In the past the big North American online dealers had decent discounts, which I assume might be due to them not paying the VAT. When I buy from someone like MSL they take the VAT off and the price goes down nicely. But in the last few months NA dealers have started to list prices just 3-4% below the Märklin retail price, which is an additional and even larger increase for me. Maybe Märklin has forced them to end their larger discounts and get more in line with European dealers. Between the two changes I have seen my prices go up considerably though, enough to make me weigh my decisions more carefully about what to buy. Of course if I wait too long the models are already sold out these days and then I save a whole lot of money. |
Regards,
Jim
I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time. |
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Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,764 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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I voted yes in this poll because ..... yes, it is an interesting model, and it is a desirable model for many reasons ....
and I do NOT believe the price is too high.
Whether I order it or not (for whatever reason ....) is another question, which this poll did not ask.
Kimball |
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge. |
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Joined: 28/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 143 Location: San Francisco
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Like it! And ordered a set yesterday! 👍🏽👍🏽
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Originally Posted by: dickinsonj
The part I don't get is why he feels the need to relentlessly post negative things about Märklin on a Märklin enthusiast website.
marklin-users.net do support two rail with DCC and mfx too. Märklin support same way. I have seen and read even bad comments from other member here too about Märklin products. There is pro and cons. The worse con made of Märklin are mfx decoder. I do really like theirs locomotives but not their mfx decoder. I hope Märklin this time fix the problem about jerk at the start and when locomotive stop jerk too in this model of the BR65. |
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i am interested in BR65 and the wagons set but i don't need figures. i searched the data of production on Marklin website and found 43800, 43810 and 43820 were alike to 41275 set specifically designed to go with BR65.
Perhaps i would consider to buy the coaches separately.
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Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe
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I have the set of coaches from the 29720 set which I'm sure are the same ones.  |
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,480 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot
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Originally Posted by: RayF I have the set of coaches from the 29720 set which I'm sure are the same ones.
I suspect they are too, although I suspect with different road numbers.
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Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: RayF I have the set of coaches from the 29720 set which I'm sure are the same ones.
I suspect they are too, although I suspect with different road numbers. I suspect you're right! |
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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 Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 3,563 Location: Paris, France
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Hi
I voted yes because it is a very interesting loco (although not the most elegant). It is a Fleischmann grand classic . The coaches on the other hand are less; been around for some time, I have one set already and 300 Euros is very expensive I think.
Nive idea this vote
Cheers
Jean
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 Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,528 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Then he'll change his mind and get the Marklin one, and when it breaks he'll sell all of his MRR and go start all over again.... No, the Märklin one will be taken apart, the screws will be damaged and the wires messed with; and then it will be taken back to the dealer and a refund demanded with a strange excuse. One of my favorite dealers can tell a lot of stories about this. Per. |
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