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Offline Minok  
#1 Posted : 14 April 2018 23:23:05(UTC)
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So I have been following Pin Nuckel's N scale modular build hand in episode 49 today he installed a Seuth smoke generator in a factory chimney and was lamenting the smoke fluid and that it stinks and indicates on the box that the liquid is a smoke liquid, a cleaner and a lubricant. So he said he discovered an alternative that's less bad for you to breath and doesn't smell so horrible.

E cigarette nicotine free fluid. They come in scents of course.

Seems like a brilliant option no? Ok e cigarette fluid probably doesn't come in spruce or such a smell but maybe a scent less or light sandlewood may be better than the Seuth stank and oily harm. But does it work long term. I'll be curious to see what Pin finds out.

Thoughts?

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Offline Purellum  
#2 Posted : 15 April 2018 00:39:48(UTC)
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Cool

We have talked about this before; but I don't think we ever found the solution, and I haven't tested anything yet:

https://www.marklin-user...-Smoke-generator-liquids

I am VERY interested in this.

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Offline Jabez  
#3 Posted : 15 April 2018 00:53:11(UTC)
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A smell of burning carbon with a dash of SO2 thrown in would be really authenticCool
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Offline xxup  
#4 Posted : 15 April 2018 01:11:11(UTC)
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Didn't I read somewhere that e-cigarette fluids are carcinogenic?

Yes.. I did.. Here's one of the many stories found in a search.. https://news.sky.com/story/e-cigarettes-may-harm-dna-and-cause-cancer-11228678 and another here -> https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/320778.php
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Offline Minok  
#5 Posted : 15 April 2018 01:27:08(UTC)
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The cancer causing risk question is not clear. For one thing, e cigarette are designed that the user purposely inhales the smoke deep into their lungs. So it's going to be studied. And pretty much by definition anything that isn't pure air (and even ozone may be a carcinogen ) will increase the probability of getting cancer. The the studies are a bit of a mixed bag:
http://scienceblog.cance...e-wildly-misleading/amp/

But more importantly none of those matters. What matters is if the e cig fluid is a greater risk than the Seuth fluid. Has a study been done on deeply inhaling Seuth smoke? Then we can compare to e cig fluid. Or at least using Seuth the way they did in the cancer studies dor the ecig fluid.

But that's not how we expose ourselves. In our case it's second hand sinthe study would have to be the 2nd hand exposure to ecig smoke and the 2nd hand exposure to Seuth oil. Your not sticking your smokestack up your nose and breathtaking by it in.

So the cancer risk aspect has little science evidence to be concerned with at the moment.

From a seat of the pants analysis I'd say that ecig fluid, designed to be deeply inhaled and to NOT cause damage to the user, would likely be safer than a lubricant/cleaner/fluid that is not at all designed to be inhaled directly.
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