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Offline Rinus  
#1 Posted : 28 August 2009 19:10:25(UTC)
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This week my TEE Lemano FS ALn 442/448 was delivered. It's a Roco (no. 69117).

The fine lines of the original are kept very well in the model. Its just as gracious as a Ferarri from the 1960's

Just take a look!

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Offline steventrain  
#2 Posted : 28 August 2009 20:39:12(UTC)
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Very good!
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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Offline Caplin  
#3 Posted : 28 August 2009 21:06:52(UTC)
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A fine looking train. How does it run on the track?

Regards,
Benny - Outsider and MFDWPL
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Offline Rinus  
#4 Posted : 29 August 2009 11:59:21(UTC)
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Havent been able to run it much, only got is this week, but on the test round it performed as silent as all Roco's, which is good.
It was able to handle all switches (narrow, wide, curved switches) properly.
It did also handle te steepest section without spinning of wheels, which is nice beacause Roco's somethimes need to be refited whith Marklin tires to prevent this. But not here.

The decoder is prety basic, but does the job: min and max speed / acceleration and deceleration / half speed / braking section yes or no, and thats it. Maybe I'll make an upgrade to Loksound 3.5 in future if I'm able to discover which sound suits it best.

The manual (a3 format) contains an exploded view, part numbers, and instructions in multiple languages.

For now I'll fit it with a Lissy transmitter and perform some 60 min running in both directions as recommended in the manual.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#5 Posted : 29 August 2009 15:27:52(UTC)
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Very nice Evil, thanks for sharing.
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Offline al_pignolo  
#6 Posted : 30 August 2009 12:33:10(UTC)
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I own a similar 69110 set (Mediolanum version...) since may 2008 and ran it very much. I am much satisfied of this train: smooth, silent, it is as good as a Marklin engine. Detailing is great! It is one of the most elegant DMU trains that ran in Europe, to me!

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The only problem you might have is about the front that is protruding from the bogies much more than other models. Buffer could interfere with objects in curves.

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Offline Rinus  
#7 Posted : 30 August 2009 14:23:54(UTC)
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The only problem you might have is about the front that is protruding from the bogies much more than other models. Buffer could interfere with objects in curves.

Pietro


Noticed that! I had to re-adjust some of the catenary in my widest R4 and R5 curves. All beauty comes with a price. I also tried to fit a slighlty smaller buffer.

Do you know if there is a propper sound decoder for this train?
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Offline al_pignolo  
#8 Posted : 30 August 2009 18:16:08(UTC)
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And I had to mill a little the left side of this curved gallery (R2 curve)... because I didn't want to change buffers... Cool

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Even if it seems so much at a first look, you just mill 3-4 mm and everything goes right!
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Offline AshleyH  
#9 Posted : 02 September 2009 21:34:47(UTC)
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Anyone interested in these fine units may like to know that a well known Ebay Seller 'roterwer' is currently offering them at very favourable prices. I have just picked up a 69114 FS Version for only Euro 145..... In 3 Rail Digital he only has the FS Version, but in 2 rail he has 63110 TEE Mediolanum and 63117 Tee Lemano which are auctioned on 1 day auctions, and are also Buy It Now for Euro 169.

These are the cheapest prices I can find anywhere. Like most Roco it should be a straightforward job to convert toi 3 Rail if you particularly want a TEE version.
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Offline Rinus  
#10 Posted : 02 September 2009 21:43:22(UTC)
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<br />Anyone interested in these fine units may like to know that a well known Ebay Seller 'roterwer' is currently offering them at very favourable prices. I have just picked up a 69114 FS Version for only Euro 145..... In 3 Rail Digital he only has the FS Version, but in 2 rail he has 63110 TEE Mediolanum and 63117 Tee Lemano which are auctioned on 1 day auctions, and are also Buy It Now for Euro 169.

These are the cheapest prices I can find anywhere. Like most Roco it should be a straightforward job to convert toi 3 Rail if you particularly want a TEE version.


Yup stange things happening to the prices of this model. Search on www.marktplaats.nl for roco 69117 and you'll find two offers. One for € 150 and one for € 165confusedconfusedconfused

Recommended retailprice is €299!

Whats going on?
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Offline AshleyH  
#11 Posted : 02 September 2009 22:09:10(UTC)
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I wonder if Roco are trying to turn some stock into cash quickly.
There have been a few rumours about Roco's finances recently.

Even in the old days of Roco, there were always crazy prices available on selected items from time to time.
I remember picking up a digital Class 145 for under GBP 70 in the days of good exchange rates!
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Offline Alberto Pedrini  
#12 Posted : 04 September 2009 01:44:26(UTC)
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Do you know if there is a propper sound decoder for this train?


I don't remember what's the sound installed, perhaps the similar svt137/vt08.

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Offline Alberto Pedrini  
#13 Posted : 01 October 2009 20:46:41(UTC)
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Sorry the link was broken, now the video is on line.
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Offline intruder  
#14 Posted : 01 October 2009 21:34:23(UTC)
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Very nice, friends.

Thanks for nice photos and video.
Best regards Svein, Norway
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Offline Rinus  
#15 Posted : 01 October 2009 22:47:34(UTC)
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<br />Sorry the link was broken, now the video is on line.
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Thanks a lot!

Now that I've opened the train, I'm in doubt if there is room for a sound decoder.[8)]
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Offline AshleyH  
#16 Posted : 04 October 2009 06:08:25(UTC)
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Nice Video Alberto, thank you for sharing.

Did you fit the internal lights yourself?I have looked inside mine and cannot see factory fitted lighting?

Thanks
Ashley
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Offline Alberto Pedrini  
#17 Posted : 06 October 2009 15:44:49(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by AshleyH
<br />Nice Video Alberto, thank you for sharing.

Did you fit the internal lights yourself?I have looked inside mine and cannot see factory fitted lighting?

Thanks
Ashley


Sorry for delay, Ashley and Evil, I was (and am) busy Smile
Sound and light have been fitted by
http://www.essemmemodel.com/content/blogcategory/15/36/
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Offline AshleyH  
#18 Posted : 10 October 2009 00:09:54(UTC)
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Thank you for the link Alberto, they have some really interesting products....
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Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#19 Posted : 16 February 2018 19:28:39(UTC)
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Hi- does anyone have one of these railcars in the AC variant? And if so, can you confirm if they use 1 or 2 pickup shoes? I picked up a DC variant which I popped a decoder into and have nearly ready for AC. I know I need one slider for the main power unit, but I have heard roco used one on the dummy unit as well? Electrically it doesn't seem necessary, but I'd like to follow factory protocol as I'm sure if they used two they did so for a reason.

Thanks!
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Offline mike c  
#20 Posted : 17 February 2018 02:20:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
Hi- does anyone have one of these railcars in the AC variant? And if so, can you confirm if they use 1 or 2 pickup shoes? I picked up a DC variant which I popped a decoder into and have nearly ready for AC. I know I need one slider for the main power unit, but I have heard roco used one on the dummy unit as well? Electrically it doesn't seem necessary, but I'd like to follow factory protocol as I'm sure if they used two they did so for a reason.

Thanks!


I don't have this trainset. If the slider is mounted on the lead bogies, it might make sense to have one at each end of the trainset, so that it could collect power from whichever end was leading. If the slider is mounted on the rear bogie, then it would not really matter (as far as signals) whether there was one a few cm away at the rear bogie of the trailing unit.

Maybe Rinus can give you a definite answer? He started this topic with a description of his 69XXX AC unit.

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Offline jvuye  
#21 Posted : 17 February 2018 16:52:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
Hi- does anyone have one of these railcars in the AC variant? And if so, can you confirm if they use 1 or 2 pickup shoes? I picked up a DC variant which I popped a decoder into and have nearly ready for AC. I know I need one slider for the main power unit, but I have heard roco used one on the dummy unit as well? Electrically it doesn't seem necessary, but I'd like to follow factory protocol as I'm sure if they used two they did so for a reason.

Thanks!


Yes.
There was a 3 rail version, bought a few years ago .
Only one pick up shoe
I have it and can only confirm its great qualities.
Was absolutely needed in my TEE collection!
Cheers
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Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#22 Posted : 18 February 2018 01:40:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
Hi- does anyone have one of these railcars in the AC variant? And if so, can you confirm if they use 1 or 2 pickup shoes? I picked up a DC variant which I popped a decoder into and have nearly ready for AC. I know I need one slider for the main power unit, but I have heard roco used one on the dummy unit as well? Electrically it doesn't seem necessary, but I'd like to follow factory protocol as I'm sure if they used two they did so for a reason.

Thanks!


Yes.
There was a 3 rail version, bought a few years ago .
Only one pick up shoe
I have it and can only confirm its great qualities.
Was absolutely needed in my TEE collection!
Cheers
Jacques


Thanks! I couldn't agree more :) Its its a looker, so pretty!
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