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Does anyone here know if MTH still make US prototypes that can run on Marklin 3-rail?
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I notice that MTH do still make HO scale products but do they still make US prototypes that can run on Marklin 3-rail?
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Joined: 21/11/2013(UTC) Posts: 521
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Originally Posted by: I_love_Marklin_37538  I notice that MTH do still make HO scale products but do they still make US prototypes that can run on Marklin 3-rail? I haven't seen any new e3+ items for 2017. |
Danilo Jiménez
Union Pacific and DB Cargo H0 models. Märklin, Brawa, MTH and some Walthers cars (nobody is perfect!) Pinball machines, jukeboxes and Horses.
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Joined: 18/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 756 Location: New Jersey, USA
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Originally Posted by: I_love_Marklin_37538  I notice that MTH do still make HO scale products but do they still make US prototypes that can run on Marklin 3-rail? Unfortunately they no longer do. I was a big fan of their US 3 rail AC models, still am. MTH says (something we already know) that 3 rail AC is too small of a niche in the US. Interestingly, MTH is making excellent German S3/6 Steamers in HO AC. I wish MTH (and others) would adopt ESU model of making AC/DCC models all in one. Michael |
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Joined: 21/11/2013(UTC) Posts: 521
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That plainly sucks. Their US based engines are awesome and sadly M doesn't produce such models. |
Danilo Jiménez
Union Pacific and DB Cargo H0 models. Märklin, Brawa, MTH and some Walthers cars (nobody is perfect!) Pinball machines, jukeboxes and Horses.
Costa Rica, pura vida!! |
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Originally Posted by: plavnostruev  MTH says (something we already know) that 3 rail AC is too small of a niche in the US Means that they have rather narrow business mindset, not thinking globally regarding sales...  |
Juhan - "Webmaster", at your service... He who asks a question is a fool for five minutes. He who does not ask a question remains a fool forever. [Old Chinese Proverb] |
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Joined: 02/04/2014(UTC) Posts: 94 Location: san sebastian
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I have been a Marklin fan for over 30 years; but since 2/3 years I have bought several MTH diesel and steam locomotives, and I am fascinated with them. What I like most are the sounds and the smoke effect on steam locomotives. I bought in Germany, directly in USA and also in the link that I put you below: https://www.ebay.es/sch/...p;_trksid=p2047675.l2562
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Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,430 Location: Attiki Athens Greece
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Originally Posted by: Hackcell  That plainly sucks. Their US based engines are awesome and sadly M doesn't produce such models. Maybe we will have a new model,they gave us the Challenger this year,maybe a F9 in the near future.
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Joined: 21/11/2013(UTC) Posts: 521
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Originally Posted by: foumaro  Originally Posted by: Hackcell  That plainly sucks. Their US based engines are awesome and sadly M doesn't produce such models. Maybe we will have a new model,they gave us the Challenger this year,maybe a F9 in the near future. I was eagerly waiting for the Allegheny, even willing to pay for it in advance. IF they decide to release newer M-compatible items, I'd like to see newer US based models, just as they did with the SD70ACe or the GEVO. |
Danilo Jiménez
Union Pacific and DB Cargo H0 models. Märklin, Brawa, MTH and some Walthers cars (nobody is perfect!) Pinball machines, jukeboxes and Horses.
Costa Rica, pura vida!! |
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Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,430 Location: Attiki Athens Greece
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Originally Posted by: foumaro  Perhaps, however I highly doubt M would release recent US based machines as M doesn't care about newer US models. They made US based models back in the 50s and 60s because of the US soldiers in Germany. |
Danilo Jiménez
Union Pacific and DB Cargo H0 models. Märklin, Brawa, MTH and some Walthers cars (nobody is perfect!) Pinball machines, jukeboxes and Horses.
Costa Rica, pura vida!! |
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Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,430 Location: Attiki Athens Greece
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Originally Posted by: Hackcell  Originally Posted by: foumaro  Perhaps, however I highly doubt M would release recent US based machines as M doesn't care about newer US models. They made US based models back in the 50s and 60s because of the US soldiers in Germany. Times are changing,i hope.
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Joined: 02/04/2014(UTC) Posts: 94 Location: san sebastian
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Originally Posted by: foumaro 
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Joined: 02/04/2014(UTC) Posts: 94 Location: san sebastian
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Hello Danilo If you look at my previous comment, in the link I put, they have the Allegheny and the Yellowstone; I bought both, 2 months ago and although expensives are wonderfull
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Joined: 21/11/2013(UTC) Posts: 521
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Originally Posted by: joseluisvalde  Hello Danilo If you look at my previous comment, in the link I put, they have the Allegheny and the Yellowstone; I bought both, 2 months ago and although expensives are wonderfull
Märklin compatible? If that´s the case I´m ordering one right now. |
Danilo Jiménez
Union Pacific and DB Cargo H0 models. Märklin, Brawa, MTH and some Walthers cars (nobody is perfect!) Pinball machines, jukeboxes and Horses.
Costa Rica, pura vida!! |
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Joined: 22/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 50 Location: USA
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Last I saw on the official MTH website, the 3 rail version of the Yellowstone and Allegheny were cancelled. I have heard this as well from the gentleman I have bought my MTH 3rail Challengers and Big Boys from. Otherwise I would have a pair, especially the DM&IR Yellowstone.
I have seen the above referenced Ebay seller's auctions numerous times.
What concerns me(as a buyer) is this:
-All of the photos shown are stock, MTH photos. They are not specific to the engines claiming to be sold. -The seller has low feedback(compared to most on Ebay) with negative feedback. -The prices are pretty ridiculous. Some of them are above what MTH lists as MSRP.
Lots of yellow flags to be sure.
That said....
It is always possible that MTH produced them for the Euro marketplace only because they were not selling well stateside(I doubt that). I would have thought our Euro brethren would have said something about them before now if that was the case....
Just food for thought
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Joined: 02/04/2014(UTC) Posts: 94 Location: san sebastian
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I respect your comments. We can all say our way. I can only say that I have several Diesel locomotives and MTH steam for 3 rails (Marklin System); all of them have not given me 100% satisfaction, but I have been able to solve the problems presented. In the link I posted earlier, I bought the Allegheny and Yellowstone for 3 rails and I have been very satisfied. I also bought the russian iron Triplex for 3 rails and their behavior has been discreet.
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Joined: 22/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 50 Location: USA
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Originally Posted by: joseluisvalde  I respect your comments. We can all say our way. I can only say that I have several Diesel locomotives and MTH steam for 3 rails (Marklin System); all of them have not given me 100% satisfaction, but I have been able to solve the problems presented. In the link I posted earlier, I bought the Allegheny and Yellowstone for 3 rails and I have been very satisfied. I also bought the russian iron Triplex for 3 rails and their behavior has been discreet. Can you post pictures of the Alleghenies and Yellowstone? Would love to see how they turned out and might need to start saving pennies
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Joined: 02/04/2014(UTC) Posts: 94 Location: san sebastian
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I could do some photos of my locomotives if they like people; but I do not sell those locomotives; my interest has been only to contribute to the information that was requested in this forum about the locomotives 3 rail MTH .
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Joined: 02/04/2014(UTC) Posts: 94 Location: san sebastian
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[img]http://[/img]   These are my Allegheny and Yellowstone steam locomotives.
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Joined: 22/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 50 Location: USA
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Gorgeous engines. Thanks for the pics!
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Joined: 02/04/2014(UTC) Posts: 94 Location: san sebastian
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Originally Posted by: ShadowXIX  Gorgeous engines. Thanks for the pics!
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Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,430 Location: Attiki Athens Greece
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Both are simply amazing.Can we have a picture of the tender of the grey locomotive?Is it an eagle painted on it?Thank you veru much.
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Joined: 02/04/2014(UTC) Posts: 94 Location: san sebastian
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???? At the moment I have it in the showcase. In the Yellowstone tender it is an eagle with the writing "DULUTH MISSABE & IRON RANGE"
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Joined: 02/04/2014(UTC) Posts: 94 Location: san sebastian
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The pic of Yellowstone tender from my showcase 
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Joined: 22/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 50 Location: USA
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Now you're really making me want to save for it!
That engine is so darn expensive though! Over $800 USD is no joke.
What radius curves are you running it on? R3?
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Joined: 02/04/2014(UTC) Posts: 94 Location: san sebastian
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The human being has always liked toys, and at our age these are the ones we can afford. Money is but a means to happiness. I have Marklin R2 curves and some R3. These locomotives work perfectly in both curves. The only problem I encounter is, from time to time, in some deviation.
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Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,430 Location: Attiki Athens Greece
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Thanks for the very nice picture.
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Joined: 20/07/2007(UTC) Posts: 809 Location: Leopold, Victoria
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Hi all, I get my MTH AC loco's from Eurorailhobbies both US and Euromodels. They have just moved the business and are in the process of bringing out a new catalog of the new US and Europe models. Enjoy |
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Originally Posted by: Legless  Hi all, I get my MTH AC loco's from Eurorailhobbies both US and Euromodels. They have just moved the business and are in the process of bringing out a new catalog of the new US and Europe models. Enjoy Is the news reliable?
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Joined: 20/07/2007(UTC) Posts: 809 Location: Leopold, Victoria
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Just go online and contact them. I've been dealing with them for a long time including a problem with one MTH loco and it was solved straight away. |
Legless Era's 1 to 111,C track,k track |
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Joined: 09/09/2010(UTC) Posts: 63
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Originally Posted by: ShadowXIX  Now you're really making me want to save for it!
That engine is so darn expensive though! Over $800 USD is no joke.
What radius curves are you running it on? R3? I was most upset when MTH cancelled the 3 rail Allegheny. Within 6 months to year after the 2 rail Allegheny became available, someone had converted it too 3 rail. I think I saw the same one as you, on eBay. The price was about $800 USD. Sorry but is way above my threshold of pain. I applaud you sir for having the deep pockets. I did buy the MTH 3 rail Challenger when it came out. Yes, it is a beautiful engine. Sure wish they would have made the Allegheny at the stated price in the catalog. Steve
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Joined: 02/04/2014(UTC) Posts: 94 Location: san sebastian
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I just visited the website I mentioned at the beginning, and I see that it has the Allegheny at € 765 and it seems that you can make an offer. Also to the Yellowstone can be made offer, although that is a little more expensive. It makes me angry to think that I paid them full price. This guy probably has more than one, and he wants to get them out. Maybe I get an interesting price, and I buy another to do a double traction, ha.. ha.. ha. Are they so spectacular!
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Joined: 02/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 244 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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The MTH H0 2017-18 catalog is now online. https://mthtrains.com/si...s/2017_ho_v_1/index.html Unfortunately no new 3-rail items. They still have the 4 versions of the Bavarian S3/6 / BR 18.4 in the catalog and in stock. The 80-3244-5 2-8-0 H10 Long Island is still in the catalog but cancelled in the database. Editing error? MTH still have one of the Triplexes, 80-3194-5, in stock – but only one. |
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Joined: 02/04/2014(UTC) Posts: 94 Location: san sebastian
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It seems that MTH has stopped manufacturing locomotives on 3 rails. It's a pity.
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Joined: 02/04/2014(UTC) Posts: 94 Location: san sebastian
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Let us not make false illusions. This distributor in Germany only has the gray Challenger. The delivery in three weeks for what is not in stock is a chimera. MTH has very few locomotives 3 rails in stock. Of course there are always some MTH locomotives on the internet. It is a matter of searching.
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