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Originally Posted by: Unholz  It's a 43671, inside the set there's one. I think the seller is selling the items individually |
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Joined: 29/07/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,437 Location: Switzerland
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou
It's a 43671, inside the set there's one.
Sorry, but I do not think that this is correct - please take a close look at the different liveries. BTW, the new special car is also available from the cashier's desk on the steamboat "Stadt Luzern": http://www.lakelucerne.c...amboats/ps-stadt-luzern/
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Very cool! I wonder if available from swiss MRR dealers, or elsewhere? And if there is a part number? |
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: Unholz It's a 43671, inside the set there's one. I think the seller is selling the items individually Stefan is quite accurate. This is not the first time that we have seen such a model. They used to sell the 4169 Dome car model on the Mittelthurgau Dome Car for passengers to keep as a souvenir. This model of the panorama coach in it's new (special) livery probably was manufactured for Maerklin Switzerland and SBB and may eventually be available through the SBB Shop as well as on the train itself. Regards Mike C
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Originally Posted by: Unholz Originally Posted by: vilithejou
It's a 43671, inside the set there's one.
Sorry, but I do not think that this is correct - please take a close look at the different liveries. BTW, the new special car is also available from the cashier's desk on the steamboat "Stadt Luzern": http://www.lakelucerne.c...amboats/ps-stadt-luzern/ The mobile device it's not the best for see these details, sorry and than you very much for the link |
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Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,242 Location: Montreal, QC
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The owner of Roundhouse Model Trains in Zurich posted a cryptic message on the Swiss Hag Forum that he expects some news on the Gotthard Panoramic Sondermodell coach on Tuesday. I don't know if this will be in the form of an official announcement or whether he is expecting a reply to an inquiry made to Maerklin Switzerland and/or SBB.
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Mike C
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Joined: 29/07/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,437 Location: Switzerland
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The Swiss dealer Roundhouse has now informed that the Panoramic Car variety can be ordered with the Märklin item no. 43650.001, the price is 59 CHF.
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Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,991 Location: CA, USA
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Lovely! It seems as though the prototype is a standard 5 car train with 3 panorama cars, and 2 regular 2nd class IR coaches? I may need to order up a trio to run alongside my orphan 42166 car set and have a full train... (the spare 1st class coach from the 42166 will have to join another consist!)
Also- you guys think its safe to assume these are the standard 27cm dome coaches?
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Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,242 Location: Montreal, QC
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As Stefan reported, a number of Swiss dealers are announcing that the Gotthard Panorama Express coach will be available through Swiss Maerklin dealers. The coach is simply a repainted version of the 1/100 (264mm) model used in the 43671 set. Here is the consist that I would recommend: Re 4/4II (either 34/37344 or 37348) - 43650.001 - 43671 (Pano) - 43650.001 - 43671 (Bpm) - 42160.01 - 42160.02 - 42160.03 Train length may vary depending on the day of travel Unfortunately, Maerklin does not have a model of the RIC coaches that run in the actual train, so I have substituted the Bpm and the EWIV B coaches. You can also run a single 43650.001 with your trains for the Munich and Stuttgart runs, as both trains have been seen with the GPE Panorama coaches in the past months. http://www.reisezuege.ch...ction=5&znummer=2893Regards Mike C
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Ordered two in Bahnorama!!!!
Thank you all for the information |
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Make your life easier: order the coach of the new train scenic route of the SBB from Luzern (do not miss the "Verkehrshaus" there  ) - Gotthard - Ticino here: http://www.suter-meggen....en/Maerklin_43650001.phpIt is a coach based on the Maerklin article# 4365 https://www.maerklin.de/...te/details/article/4365/and shall be produced by Maerklin only for the Swiss market with the subarticle# 43650.001. So announced in the Stummi community. Beside the scenic routes of the Glacier Express and Bernina Express the Swiss railway offers now a third scenic route over the Gotthard Pass, the Gotthard Panorama Express. This train runs on the old tracks with all its curves and tunnels to the South. A reason more doing a railroad holiday in Switzerland. 
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I will get one if dealer email confirm order. |
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Planned delivery due May. |
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I was informed by SBB that the model should be available via Maerklin Switzerland in two weeks. In the interim, the model can be procured on the train and on the Lake Luzern steam boat.
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Mike C
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I placed my order this morning for 3 cars. Hopefully the first 1/87 scale Gotthard Panorama Express will ride on my layout by June!
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Originally Posted by: mike c I was informed by SBB that the model should be available via Maerklin Switzerland in two weeks. In the interim, the model can be procured on the train and on the Lake Luzern steam boat.
Regards
Mike C Check out the GoFundMeMarklinMembers so I can pick mine up in Switzerland, please send money now, the plane is waiting!  Just kidding!!  Michel
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Placed an order with Bahnorama today...too cool to pass up! |
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For anyone who may be interested in this car...here is a video of a single car being used in 'regular' service: |
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Originally Posted by: Unholz Lokshop and Matschke available to order but check price first. |
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Delivery is starting - limited to 500 pieces.
Sold out at the Factory. |
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I have email from Lokshop that my order is now in stock. Price fixed is 65 EUR.
No more order from lokshop as that is all sold out. |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain I have email from Lokshop that my order is now in stock. Price fixed is 65 EUR.
No more order from lokshop as that is all sold out. In Bahnorama 50€ for each one... and they have more on september... |
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Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: steventrain I have email from Lokshop that my order is now in stock. Price fixed is 65 EUR.
No more order from lokshop as that is all sold out. In Bahnorama 50€ for each one... and they have more on september... Listed 59 CHF - 55 EUR. I would go to lokshop because cheaper shipping fee any size and weight only 8.50 EUR. |
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Mine arrived from Bahnorama today...now to add some people and lights!!! |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Are you saying that they are selling on eBay for 150 EU? Michel
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Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,242 Location: Montreal, QC
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My pair of Gotthard Panorama Coaches is now matched up with a pair of SBB Bpm EC (from a Startset) and a single SBB EWIV A (from the 42164) set.
I have a Panorama coach from the 43671 set that can be added to expand the consist.
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I missed the train... Will there be any additional production of the 43650.001 car?  |
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Originally Posted by: PeFu I missed the train... Will there be any additional production of the 43650.001 car? All sold out, Don't know it will be any additional production Maybe a second version such as 43650.002 but no news yet. |
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