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Originally Posted by: vilithejou  E93 messemodell #37871 Black edition have a 5 set vans in Black edition too #46356 UVP 200€ Both will be present at Nuremberg 2017 Toy fair from 1 February. |
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Hello All.
Please excuse my ignorance, but what era is 37871?
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Originally Posted by: ParisTsirchoglou Hello All.
Please excuse my ignorance, but what era is 37871?
Regards
Paris It is a fictitious paint scheme. I don't know when the E93 started service but there are still some running currently under private operators.
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Originally Posted by: ParisTsirchoglou Hello All.
Please excuse my ignorance, but what era is 37871?
Regards
Paris This loco would have worn a grey livery in the war years, so a black version could represent those dark days if you were so inclined. As Alan has pointed out, it's fictitious so there is no Era specified. |
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan
It is a fictitious paint scheme. I don't know when the E93 started service but there are still some running currently under private operators.
Hi Alan, Don't mismatch the E93 with the E94 which looks very similar. None of the three surviving E93 is in operational condition. The E93 007 (193 007) is owned by the DB-museum and shown in Coblenz (Koblenz). ...008 is shown as a memorial near the Neckarwestheim power plant. The third one ...012 is in bad condition and stored at Ettlingen (not accessible for the public). Regards Markus
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Do the 37871 came supply in wooden box  |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Do the 37871 came supply in wooden box I wooodened be surprised ... 
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That black paint finish is really nice. I saw a Croc in black a while back, that too looked really sharp. Something about black that is really appealing!
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Theodor Friedrich Wilhelm Märklin born on 2 April 1817.
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Do the 37871 came supply in wooden box Not wooden box.. it's a metal box Description of the item: • Marklin H0 37871: Class E 93 electric loco, black colored. With extensive sound functions and mfx+ digital decoder. The loco comes in a metal package with a historical design on the occasion of the 200th birthday of Marklin founder Theodor Friedrich Wilhelm Märklin. • Märklin H0 46356 Dump Car set with 5 cars. The set fits perfectly to the locos Marklin 37871 and Trix 22871. Very detailed cars. All cars with different road numbers. |
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: steventrain Do the 37871 came supply in wooden box Not wooden box.. it's a metal box Description of the item: • Marklin H0 37871: Class E 93 electric loco, black colored. With extensive sound functions and mfx+ digital decoder. The loco comes in a metal package with a historical design on the occasion of the 200th birthday of Marklin founder Theodor Friedrich Wilhelm Märklin. • Märklin H0 46356 Dump Car set with 5 cars. The set fits perfectly to the locos Marklin 37871 and Trix 22871. Very detailed cars. All cars with different road numbers. Thanks for let me know, Quite interesting. So I will order the E93. |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: steventrain Do the 37871 came supply in wooden box Not wooden box.. it's a metal box Description of the item: • Marklin H0 37871: Class E 93 electric loco, black colored. With extensive sound functions and mfx+ digital decoder. The loco comes in a metal package with a historical design on the occasion of the 200th birthday of Marklin founder Theodor Friedrich Wilhelm Märklin. • Märklin H0 46356 Dump Car set with 5 cars. The set fits perfectly to the locos Marklin 37871 and Trix 22871. Very detailed cars. All cars with different road numbers. Thanks for let me know, Quite interesting. So I will order the E93. I have two swiss Crocs in black edition but i don't buy E94... so now E93, is enormous doubt to buy this... |
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: steventrain Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: steventrain Do the 37871 came supply in wooden box Not wooden box.. it's a metal box Description of the item: • Marklin H0 37871: Class E 93 electric loco, black colored. With extensive sound functions and mfx+ digital decoder. The loco comes in a metal package with a historical design on the occasion of the 200th birthday of Marklin founder Theodor Friedrich Wilhelm Märklin. • Märklin H0 46356 Dump Car set with 5 cars. The set fits perfectly to the locos Marklin 37871 and Trix 22871. Very detailed cars. All cars with different road numbers. Thanks for let me know, Quite interesting. So I will order the E93. I have two swiss Crocs in black edition but i don't buy E94... so now E93, is enormous doubt to buy this... Marklin is doing its best to bankrupt me this year. My favourite loco is the E94 and E93. I have every HO version produced so far. So what have they done E94 in New Items, 37871 and the infotag E94. 
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The 37603 VT11.5 gold is due in shop from April. I would noy buy at silly price.  |
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37871, 37603, and 46356 now on marklin database.
I have above add to delivery list topic. |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: steventrain Do the 37871 came supply in wooden box Not wooden box.. it's a metal box Description of the item: • Marklin H0 37871: Class E 93 electric loco, black colored. With extensive sound functions and mfx+ digital decoder. The loco comes in a metal package with a historical design on the occasion of the 200th birthday of Marklin founder Theodor Friedrich Wilhelm Märklin. • Märklin H0 46356 Dump Car set with 5 cars. The set fits perfectly to the locos Marklin 37871 and Trix 22871. Very detailed cars. All cars with different road numbers. Thanks for let me know, Quite interesting. So I will order the E93. I think i will not be able to pass of it either...... |
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Just ordered, at not too silly price deducting the VAT...uffff |
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Originally Posted by: AmalfiCoast That is the Infotage loco, that and the wagon above it on the same page are only available if you attend a store where a Marklin representative is having an Information Day (Infotage). It is only available on the day, and the Marklin representative brings the stock with him, and takes back any unsold stock at the end of the day. Neither it or the wagon is an orderable item. The PDF document that you can download from that same page gives the list of shops that are having Infotage days between january and Easter. Unfortunately they are all in Germany. I am not aware of any Infotage days ever being held outside Germany, even the seminars I have attended at Gaugemaster in the UK didn't seem to be considered an Infotage.
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I purchased the sondermodelle E94 a couple of years ago, and although a fantasy livery I think the colour and finish worked well, and I am pleased with my version. If the E93 is to the same standard, I think German croc fans will be pleased;  |
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Originally Posted by: GlennM I purchased the sondermodelle E94 a couple of years ago, and although a fantasy livery I think the colour and finish worked well, and I am pleased with my version. If the E93 is to the same standard, I think German croc fans will be pleased; I already got mine last July 2015 paid 319 EUR. Today value worth nearly 600 EUR. |
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: AmalfiCoast That is the Infotage loco, that and the wagon above it on the same page are only available if you attend a store where a Marklin representative is having an Information Day (Infotage). It is only available on the day, and the Marklin representative brings the stock with him, and takes back any unsold stock at the end of the day. Neither it or the wagon is an orderable item. The PDF document that you can download from that same page gives the list of shops that are having Infotage days between january and Easter. Unfortunately they are all in Germany. I am not aware of any Infotage days ever being held outside Germany, even the seminars I have attended at Gaugemaster in the UK didn't seem to be considered an Infotage. There are info days in Switzerland as well. And last year I recognized Märklin started info days in France too. I attended one of these days in Nuernberg and Schweinfurt. Indeed, it was very helpful talking to an Maerklin employee about the CS 2 (was the only one at these days). Because at these meetings are not very much people around and this Maerklin guy carrying a portable, small C-track layout (nevertheless the layout has two track circuits, signals, several turnouts, etc.!) by himself. You have time talking to him and he directly demonstrate his answers at the layout. At this schedule for info days between February and April 2017, I see March, 2nd 2017 "Joes Modellbahnlaedle" is participating in these info days. So it can order these white models for the info days and Joes has also a very good internet shop. I bought there already some stuff and can recommend it. Also, if I asked questions per e-mail, Mr. Diez (the shop owner) answered them very fast. Have a look here - e.g. you still can order the black E 94 2015 (art.# 37229) at his shop. http://joes-modellbahnla...15f08b03b/Products/37229Write him an e-mail and ask if you can buy a white E 94 (art# 39226 - not listed in Maerklin's database), if you want one.
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37871 due in shop from May 2017. |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain That one goes on the list.  If anyone of you ever go to Sweden, try travel in style with this train Blå Tåget (Blue Train), enjoy the 3-course dinner in the restaurant car and then have a drink or two in the piano-bar-wagon or simply relax in the cosy chairs. http://www.blataget.com/
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What surprised me was that the brochures pictured are in English - and they include the euro prices! Normally the only way to get the Euro price is to get the German edition (can't speak for other languages from the Euro area, they may also have Euro prices) and the English version has no prices at all.
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Nurnberg 2017 marklin TV now online (German) - Scroll down end at Marklin homepage German.
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Nurnberg 2017 marklin TV now online (German) - Scroll down end at Marklin homepage German.
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: steventrain Nurnberg 2017 marklin TV now online (German) - Scroll down end at Marklin homepage German.
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: steventrain Nurnberg 2017 marklin TV now online (German) - Scroll down end at Marklin homepage German.
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Originally Posted by: MaerklinLife Normally the Info Day wagons and locos are only available to attendees at the event. Märklin will count and ship the locos and wagons to the dealer. When the event is over surplus stock will have to be sent back to Göppingen. They are very careful not to devaluate the product line. I can imagine that Maerklin is really acting as you describe. But I question myself, does Maerklin wants to do sales or annoy their customer? 
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Originally Posted by: MaerklinLife Normally the Info Day wagons and locos are only available to attendees at the event. Märklin will count and ship the locos and wagons to the dealer. When the event is over surplus stock will have to be sent back to Göppingen. They are very careful not to devaluate the product line. I can imagine that Maerklin is really acting as you describe. But I question myself, does Maerklin wants to do sales or annoy their customer? I suspect it is a way for the factory bosses to know how many people are actually attending the Infotage, by counting how many items they sell. It also adds to the exclusivity of them. They have also tightened up on the supply of museum wagons in the last three or four years. You can now only get them at th museum at the advertised price. Any you see dealers selling are at museum price +10% minimum, which suggests they get to buy them at the museum price instead of the normal discount from retail.
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Have it on order, lok from lokshop and the wagon set from Sweden
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I already got mine last July 2015 paid 319 EUR. Today value worth nearly 600 EUR.
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Originally Posted by: GlennM Originally Posted by: steventrain I already got mine last July 2015 paid 319 EUR. Today value worth nearly 600 EUR. Interesting.....................is that the going rate or Koll's recommended price? One sold on ebay.de on November 25 for € 585.15, one sold on ebay.de on February 2 for € 499.00. Difficult to determine the value when only few sales occur. |
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Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: GlennM Originally Posted by: steventrain I already got mine last July 2015 paid 319 EUR. Today value worth nearly 600 EUR. Interesting.....................is that the going rate or Koll's recommended price? One sold on ebay.de on November 25 for € 585.15, one sold on ebay.de on February 2 for € 499.00. Difficult to determine the value when only few sales occur. 499 EUR was 'Buy it now' - a Bargain. |
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Delivery dates change.
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39043 date back to Q2
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Hi Steven,
This information is great. Just curious, where do you find all of this information?
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Originally Posted by: AmalfiCoast Hi Steven,
This information is great. Just curious, where do you find all of this information?
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The reproduction 30390 and 40850 - Marklin said both may be sold out at the factory very soon.
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Ordered my 30390 and 40850 from my dealer today =D
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Marklin Storelok 2017. 36246 BR24 041 weathered mfx sound with case. RRP 249.99 EUR - Due June 2017. >LINK TO MMC Dealers< |
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First batch of 39042 BR42 will be ready to shipping next week. |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain First batch of 39042 BR42 will be ready to shipping next week. I hope mine is in there
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