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I was asked a question today by someone, who shall remain nameless. The question is, "Are there any Marklin Locomotives, other than railcars, that were delivered with current conducting couplers for lighting passenger wagons?" The person was under the impression that the locomotive was a diesel. |
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The answer to the question is: "Yes."
I'm under the impression that the unwritten list would include diesel locos.
I assume that locos from train sets are to be included in the list. |
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Originally Posted by: xxup  I was asked a question today by someone, who shall remain nameless. The question is, "Are there any Marklin Locomotives, other than railcars, that were delivered with current conducting couplers for lighting passenger wagons?" The person was under the impression that the locomotive was a diesel. Hi. For one, the DB electric BR 111 from the MHI Lufthansa Express that was just delivered a few months ago does, on one of the extremities. Does that answers the question ? Cheers Jacques |
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Yes thank you Jacques and Tom. My answer to the person was the same as John's..  |
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I think the first that came with this feature was the Glaskasten. All the early versions had the ability to power the lighting in the matching coaches.
Please feel free to disagree... |
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I don't know if it count as such but wasn't there also a set with a Br23 (26543) that has a conducting coupler although might not be a standard coupler.
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Swedish set 28703 does, I believe both ends of the loko are current conducting. |
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DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe
But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control.
With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397. |
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Many of the passenger sets from recent years include current conducting couplers of some sort to power the lighting in the coaches. Some are non-standard and can only be used within the set. |
Ray
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Hello all,
The 37069 that I just bought has current conductor couplings on both ends.
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Doran
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Br V80 #36082 does on both ends. |
Matt
Era 3
DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe
But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control.
With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397. |
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So given that the locomotives I have don't have current conducting couplers but will likely be pulling passenger coaches I want to fit with lighting, and preferably pull power from the one slider to be used on the train....
Is there an established and solid procedure & parts set for putting current conducting couplers on a locomotive and powering it from the decoders within? (a diagram, relay and other electronics parts, etc) |
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Thanks for those Doran and Matt..
Keep them coming guys.. This will be a handy future reference for others |
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Originally Posted by: Minok So given that the locomotives I have don't have current conducting couplers but will likely be pulling passenger coaches I want to fit with lighting, and preferably pull power from the one slider to be used on the train....
Is there an established and solid procedure & parts set for putting current conducting couplers on a locomotive and powering it from the decoders within? (a diagram, relay and other electronics parts, etc) If the coupler pocket is NEM, then you could do something like this: https://www.marklin-user...ing-couplers--No-problem |
Matt
Era 3
DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe
But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control.
With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397. |
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There was a DB S-Bahn commuter set that came with current conducting couplers and may have also included slider changeover between the locomotive and the pilot coach. Off the top of my head, I cannot recall the number.
It is not too difficult to connect a current conducting coupler with cable (Viessmann, etc), but if using the Maerklin current conducting close coupler, you have to design some kind of contact in the NEM socket and a way to conduct the power between coupler and decoder or coupler and slider. If you want to have a multi pole connection, say for red or white lights, you will need to use Roco or other current conducting couplers.
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Originally Posted by: biedmatt Br V80 #36082 does on both ends. Yes, and Marklin has also the 43131 and 43132 Donnerbusches with conducting couplers to match the loco |
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The Märklin 26496 Santa Fe Super Chief, F 7, A-B-B has a current conducting coupler on the end of last B unit to power the coach lighting via a decoder function. 
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Originally Posted by: 3rail4life The Märklin 26496 Santa Fe Super Chief, F 7, A-B-B has a current conducting coupler on the end of last B unit to power the coach lighting via a decoder function. And so does my California Zephyr - The F7 passenger sets are some of the most beautiful items that Marklin has ever made IMO. I think that they are overlooked because they are an odd fit with all of the European trains. Oh well - they are too good to pass up for me. Some older sets are powered from the observation cars and the newer ones such as the Super Chief, like Gordon has, are powered from the locomotive. That is a beautiful train and I really want one on my layout. Cheers, Jim |
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My Wabash Blue Bird train lights is also powered by the lok.
However, due to the current draw of all the lights, there was a relay that the decoder powered. |
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Originally Posted by: xxup I was asked a question today by someone, who shall remain nameless. The question is, "Are there any Marklin Locomotives, other than railcars, that were delivered with current conducting couplers for lighting passenger wagons?" The person was under the impression that the locomotive was a diesel. The 3387/3687 Glaskasten is one of the earliest steam locos I know of with conducting couplers, designed to be used with the 4301/2/3 coach and baggage wagon set. I can't remember if the 3686 version had current conducting couplers. These came out in the early-mid 1990s.
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I have 43131 and BR 24 without current conducting coupler. How do I install current conducting coupler to BR 24 or install pickup shoe to the car set?
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Can current conducting coupler coupled with close coupler on the other hand?
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My F7 Amtrax passenger trains have the current conducting draw bars between the coaches with a pick up on one of the coaches as best as I can remember
without looking. Not as easy to uncouple and of course do not resemble couplers but are very reliable for conducting current.
Eric
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Originally Posted by: QQQ1970 Can current conducting coupler coupled with close coupler on the other hand? Some single-pole conducting couplers can be coupled with normal Märklin close couplers. Do not couple them with tin-plate cars, that could lead to a short circuit and in the worst case destroy decoders. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS |
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Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Originally Posted by: 3rail4life The Märklin 26496 Santa Fe Super Chief, F 7, A-B-B has a current conducting coupler on the end of last B unit to power the coach lighting via a decoder function. And so does my California Zephyr - The F7 passenger sets are some of the most beautiful items that Marklin has ever made IMO. I think that they are overlooked because they are an odd fit with all of the European trains. Oh well - they are too good to pass up for me. Some older sets are powered from the observation cars and the newer ones such as the Super Chief, like Gordon has, are powered from the locomotive. That is a beautiful train and I really want one on my layout. Cheers, Jim Then it's modified. My CZ has a pick-up shoe and a decoder with a 2nd adress for lights in the last car. No electrical connection between the loco and the cars. |
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Originally Posted by: sudibarba My F7 Amtrax passenger trains have the current conducting draw bars between the coaches with a pick up on one of the coaches as best as I can remember
without looking. Not as easy to uncouple and of course do not resemble couplers but are very reliable for conducting current.
Eric The 6 cars are divided in 2 groups with 3 cars each. One pick-up shoe in one of the cars of the groups. Clever. You can divide the train in 2 parts. |
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Originally Posted by: 3rail4life The Märklin 26496 Santa Fe Super Chief, F 7, A-B-B has a current conducting coupler on the end of last B unit to power the coach lighting via a decoder function. And so does my California Zephyr Jim Then it's modified. My CZ has a pick-up shoe and a decoder with a 2nd adress for lights in the last car. No electrical connection between the loco and the cars. You are correct David. This thread was pretty old so I reviewed my earlier post to see what I had said two years ago. I'm not sure what I intended to say but my coaches are not powered by the loco but by the decoder located in the observation car. That decoder has a seperate address and controls the interior lighting in all of the coaches as well as the various marker lights on that car. I also learned that if you want all of the functions to show up on one entry on a CS2 the second decoder needs to remain at the next consecutive address. I believe that Tom (HO) was the source of that useful bit of information. Now I have set the record straight - and it only took me two years.  |
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Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: QQQ1970 Can current conducting coupler coupled with close coupler on the other hand? Some single-pole conducting couplers can be coupled with normal Märklin close couplers. Do not couple them with tin-plate cars, that could lead to a short circuit and in the worst case destroy decoders. It takes a lot of efforts to hook current conducting coupler with standard close coupler, and then it comes loose when moving, or worse the car jumps track on curves. Am I missing something?
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Originally Posted by: QQQ1970 Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: QQQ1970 Can current conducting coupler coupled with close coupler on the other hand? Some single-pole conducting couplers can be coupled with normal Märklin close couplers. Do not couple them with tin-plate cars, that could lead to a short circuit and in the worst case destroy decoders. It takes a lot of efforts to hook current conducting coupler with standard close coupler, and then it comes loose when moving, or worse the car jumps track on curves. Am I missing something? My 43204 passenger car set has M 72020 current conducting couplers that can be interchanged with non-conducting M 7203 couplers. This combination has shown no problems to date. Tex
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