Hi all,

I recently upgraded two Badische IVh locomotives in my collection (39020 and 39021) with a 21 pin LokSound V4 M4. In doing so, I also had to replace the original, factory installed, 100 ohm speaker with new 4 ohm speakers. Some initial CV settings are required to get the locomotives to operate, as these are fitted with the discontinued, compact, sinus motor.

The enhanced sounds are spectacular, and the full palette of additional sound and motion functions seem to work right, except for the possibility of controlling the intensity of the smoke when the locomotive is in stationary position.

Normally, this is done for MFX decoders by setting the extra function to "smoke" on the key that it's mapped with the smoke generation function (normally Output 1). However, this does not seem to have any effect on mine now. On this setting, the generator produces less smoke when the loco is stationary and gradually more when the locomotive is set in motion, depending on its speed.

Has anyone encountered the same issue? And if so, how can it be resolved?

I have ESU V200 with an special smoke generator.
This decoder V4 M4 do have some CV adresses to adjust smoke temperatur and air fluid.
I found an CV adress and it´s CV 139.
The higher value,the higher temperatur.
But to program smoke value with lesser smoke in the station area and when locomotive start moves,the more smoke generates you need an lokprogrammer to adjust value of the smoke and speed up synchrony together.
That means the smoke generator must get heater when locomotive start speed up.
I´m not sure if this can been done with an Seuthe smoke generator.
The decoder delivery power to the smoke generator,to start heat up.
It happens so when you push as digital function on the hand control or CS2.

It´s documented in the V200 manual.
I´m sure it does by use ESU lokprogrammer too.
If you write CV 139 in the lokprogrammer...

It´s sure you can use all CV adresses with the lokprogrammer,if there does documented with the CV adresses.
I know you can do with the loksound V4 M4.

No doubt about that.
In the LokProgrammer software I can choose between "Smoke unit (controlled by sound)" and "Seuthe smoke generator".

CVs that work for the former may have no effect on the latter - and vice versa.

Good to know that you know and that you are sure.

I don't have any steam engines with ESU decoders, smoke or much of anything. I only have two steam loks, but I do have the ESU Lokprogrammer and at one point, I was looking at the sound mapping and you can create your own sound maps and I believe that you can also adjust the chuff settings and probably also the smoke generator pulses. I don't know how well this can be done with Maerklin MS/CS units.

Regards

Mike C

MTH have ventilators too. I wonder if its possible to have the synchronized puffing working using a ESU decoder plus the MTH H0 smoke generator.

Any thoughts?

Here's what I got from LokProgrammer:
CV31 = 16, CV32 = 0

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CV275 = 24
CV278 = 16
CV279 = 18
CV280 = 20

Value 24 in CV 275 sets AUX1[1] to "Seuthe smoke unit" mode.
278 is intensity for standstill (default and maximum value is 31).
279 is the minimum value for driving (default 0).
280 is the maximum value for driving (default 0).


MS2 users will have to disable mfx to set the values using DCC.
CS2 users may have to disable mfx to set the values using DCC.

No. When programming DCC/mfx decoders with an MS2 you have to disable mfx in the MS2 to get access to all CVs. Same for ESU or Märklin decoders.

BTW, I am assuming that the Märklin 72270 smoke unit that I have installed in my two Badische IVh locomotives are one and the same with the Seuthe.

It seems this point needs some explanations.

In the CS2 change the track protocols from "auto" to "DCC" or "MM+DCC".
Then select a DCC loco on the CS2 - create one if you don't have any yet. The address of this DCC loco does not matter with respect to programming.
3 is the default address of the decoder and to test the changed CVs immediately it will be handy to have a DCC loco that matches the address of the decoder.
The mfx entry for that loco is of no use while mfx is disabled.

Put the loco you want to change on the programming track. It has to be the only loco there.

Now enter the CV screen for that loco.
CVs not yet in the list can be added with the "+" button.
Note that the CS2 does not display the value of a CV until you select the read button (loco with arrow showing up).
Remember that the meaning of CVs between 257 and 512 depends on CVs 31 and 32, so make sure to set those two before changing other CVs.

You can save the decoder profile after adding all the CVs you need for the smoke generator. You can load that profile whenever you need it again.

The CS2 cannot read CVs when using Programming on Main, so using the programming track is recommended.

When programming is done, track protocol can be changed to "auto" again.

Tom,

I followed your detailed instructions with the CS2, set in DCC mode, and was able to add and program the additional CVs with the recommended values.

Everything works great, and the locomotive is able to control the intensity of the smoke, depending on its speed.

I did notice, though, that 13 might be a better setting for CV278, when the locomotive is stationary.

Once again thank you for helping me resolve this issue. Herzlichen Dank!!!

Do you think the smoke unit adjustments are possible using the Uhlenbrock Intellibox or do I need to wait until I purchase the Loksound Programmer or a different control station? I did adjust the sound volume on a steam Lokomotiv (Marklin 37184) with a ESU Loksound 4.0 M4 mfx decoder. But I had to be real careful with address' 31 and 32, I wound up disabling the lights the first time I changed the 259 & 3267 CV's without setting CV 32 to 1. So I had to go back and change everything back.

yes, I would expect so.

and if it is in mfX mode, here is how to handle that: https://cabin-layout.blogspot.com/2005/08/mfx-Decoder-Intellibox.html

Thank you for posting this, adjusting these parameters worked the best for me. Adjusting the Seuthe smoke generator installed in a Märklin 37184 Dampflok.