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Offline Dimitris Kanellos  
#1 Posted : 11 March 2016 10:13:42(UTC)
Dimitris Kanellos


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Hi everybody.
Does anyone know why my MS2 don't save the esu decoder in memory? Every time i close the power, i have to register from begining the loco. Also it doesen't reconized at once. The MFX symbol flashes for long time and nothing hapend. I do it manualy with " find loco" option.
Offline river6109  
#2 Posted : 11 March 2016 10:28:42(UTC)
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have you got a lok programmer ? and see iof you turn off RailComPlus if this makes any diference.

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Offline H0  
#3 Posted : 11 March 2016 11:58:39(UTC)
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Hi!
Originally Posted by: Dimitris Kanellos Go to Quoted Post
Does anyone know why my MS2 don't save the esu decoder in memory?
Is your MS2 up to date? Early 1.x software versions do not work with ESU V4 M4 decoders because the mfx implementation of the MS2 was buggy.

I have no problems with ESU V4 M4 decoders.
Regards
Tom
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Offline RayF  
#4 Posted : 11 March 2016 12:13:11(UTC)
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The only time I used a LP V4M it gave me so much grief trying to get it to register with mfx that I gave up on it and disabled mfx on the decoder. I now use it in MM mode, which is fine for me.
Ray
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Offline Dimitris Kanellos  
#5 Posted : 11 March 2016 12:39:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Hi!
Originally Posted by: Dimitris Kanellos Go to Quoted Post
Does anyone know why my MS2 don't save the esu decoder in memory?
Is your MS2 up to date? Early 1.x software versions do not work with ESU V4 M4 decoders because the mfx implementation of the MS2 was buggy.

I have no problems with ESU V4 M4 decoders.


I did one update before 1 year i think but one day i make reset to the default. How can i chek wich version is instaled?
Offline Dimitris Kanellos  
#6 Posted : 11 March 2016 12:43:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
The only time I used a LP V4M it gave me so much grief trying to get it to register with mfx that I gave up on it and disabled mfx on the decoder. I now use it in MM mode, which is fine for me.


I have no idea how to do this BigGrin
Offline RayF  
#7 Posted : 11 March 2016 13:08:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dimitris Kanellos Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
The only time I used a LP V4M it gave me so much grief trying to get it to register with mfx that I gave up on it and disabled mfx on the decoder. I now use it in MM mode, which is fine for me.


I have no idea how to do this BigGrin


I had no idea either until I went through the manual for the LP V4M. There is a cv that you change to give you the digital system of your choice (mfx, MM or DCC)

I registered the loco first as a DCC loco with the default address (3), then I used dcc to set the CV. You have to write the value 13 into CV 47 to disable mfx.

If you don't have the manual for the decoder you can download it from the ESU website.
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
Offline H0  
#8 Posted : 11 March 2016 14:49:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dimitris Kanellos Go to Quoted Post
How can i chek wich version is instaled?
Go to the Information menu. See page 19 in the manual.

According to ESU FAQ the track box must have version 1.39. You can check the track box version from the menu - just invoke Update Trackbox (or something to that effect), note the current version and cancel the process unless the MS2 suggests to upgrade from version 0.00 to version 1.39.

Edited by user 11 March 2016 18:53:20(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Regards
Tom
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Offline Goofy  
#9 Posted : 12 March 2016 09:11:56(UTC)
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Here is the list of the CV adresses you should adjust.
CV28=value 0
CV29 - bit 3 - disable RailCom=value 0
CV47 are protocol selection.If you want just only M4 and MM,make sure to disabled bit 0 and bit 3 to value 0.
CV47 bit 0 is for DCC.
CV47 bit 3 is for Selectrix.

With those adresses you have possible to use with the MS2 to change value.
If you want to use ESU sound decoder,make sure you have at least version 1.64 or higher in the MS2.
H0
DCC = Digital Command Control
Offline H0  
#10 Posted : 12 March 2016 09:15:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
If you want to use ESU sound decoder,make sure you have at least version 1.64 or higher in the MS2.
The problem is the track box, not the MS2. Updating the MS2 only and leaving the old version on the track box will not resolve the issue.

Regards
Tom
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Offline Goofy  
#11 Posted : 12 March 2016 09:24:47(UTC)
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The track box do have version from the Märklin.
There is no reason to sell an track box without the version!
When i did had Trix MS2 and the track box,there was version when i did bought them.
I did upgrade track box too,to higher version and not only the MS2.
To use all 16 functions with the ESU sound decoder M4,you must have anyway at least version 1.39 in the track box,which you was right in the earlier post.
H0
DCC = Digital Command Control
Offline H0  
#12 Posted : 12 March 2016 09:30:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
The track box do have version from the Märklin.
My track box came with version 0.00. And MS2 with version 1.30 was also dang incapable.

But yes, all those phreaking versions came from Märklin and passed all quality checks at the factory. Cool

IIRC the MS2 does not prompt to update the track box and the user has to start the upgrade manually.
Regards
Tom
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