Hi Chuck!

It's a plastic or metal covered locomotive?

I would recommend the Seuthe #23 or #28.

That last one only if the space doesn't fits the first - the only difference is the smallest size.

http://seuthe-dampf.de/spur-h0/

Final advice: have some 'insulation' over the decoder...

Cheers,

Walter

Yes, understood.

I don't have that locomotive and I'm just guessing the solution.

Instead of this, I have almost the same situation here: I want to insert a smoke unit on the Märklin 37967.
It don't have "plenty" of room in front, but I always wondered why they don't designed it with the smoke unit...
(also looking for an elegant solution on this case)...

Cheers,

Walter

Why?

I guess weathering it would also be out of the question?

It's NOT the Mona Lisa.

Chuck

Thanks Angus! I will await your findings.

Chuck

Hi!
Maybe that's the best place.
Keep in mind that it is a loco with three trucks: leading and trailing running axles are a truck each, powered axles are another truck.
When the running axles move to the left, the powered axles will move to the right - and vice versa.

Motor, decoder, and speaker are mounted on the platforms above the running axles - there they do not move.
Anything mounted between the powered axles will either have to be small or will have to move left and right with the powered axles.

Can be done. I assume they didn't prepare the loco for smoke to keep the construction more simple.

The internals of the BR 61 are much like that of the streamlined BR 05 and not similar to the streamlined BR 03.10. The two former locos have closed skirts while the latter requires big holes in the skirt.
The 03.10 does not have a moveable truck for the powered axles - this simple design requires the holes in skirt, but makes installation of smoke generators more simple.

Take a look at your loco once you got it.

Chuck looking at the loco there is enough room but is the room usable ? with a 39... loco type you can't just un-solder the wires and move them somewhere else. and messing around with the fixed wire band I wouldn't risk it. whether or not you can dd a shorter smokeunit only you would know, go to Seuthe.de and have a look at the smaller smoke units and see how long they are, than it is a matter of measuring if a smoke unit can be fitted, the other concern is always the heat the smoke generator creates so you wouldn't want it to sit on top of the decoder.

I've asked my self for years why Märklin hasn't put smoke generators in some of their locos., I'm just converting an older locos BR 38 and fitted a smoke generator and I have done this on many others even with a plastic housing, another loco springs to mind BR 96, BR 78,

Unless you move the whole lot from the front I'd say you've got slim chances. has this got sound ?

John

Märklin's current BR 38.10-40 is prepared for a smoke generator (ever since 2003).
The BR 96 has the space filled with other things.

Hi Chuck

After having a good look at my loco and lifting it's lid, your assessment "too much of a headache to be worth it" is spot on.

There really is very limited space available under the smoke stack. The internal shell height, at the smoke stack, is 25.5mm, the smoker length (marklin 7226, which I think is very similar to the Sleuthe #10) 23mm and then the decoder etc. stick up off the frame by about 16mm. So there really is very little space for you to play with in there.

I have got a photo and will try post it shortly.

Thanks Angus, that's just the info I needed.

I agree that there's just not near enough room under the stack area to be able to add a smoke unit without considerable "surgery".

Chuck

Thanks for the info.

I wish that the pic of the unit on their website was bigger so I could get a better idea what is involved in the conversion.

Chuck

Thanks for the info. I try emailing them.

Chuck