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Images of 36818 and 39408 on Steventrain Facebook - >LINK< |
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I wonder if the KPEV S10 (DRG BR 17) will be coming back?
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It's a shame the SNCB 18 has not got MFX+ cab sim? Has it ?? As this loco livery has been done already? Still it's on my wish list:-) |
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The price of the freight car set is 199.99 €, see on Marklin Insider news
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Some Lists of 2016 new items in end of 2nd week of January - M Dealers. |
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VT11.5 + Ergänzung
Tender steam Class 10
Swiss Steam 2-10-0 C5/6 Elefant
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Originally Posted by: steventrain  VT11.5 + Ergänzung
Tender steam Class 10
Swiss Steam 2-10-0 C5/6 Elefant
Plus starter sets. Thanks Stephen. Would that be a new tooling of the Br10? |
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Originally Posted by: RayF Originally Posted by: steventrain VT11.5 + Ergänzung
Tender steam Class 10
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Plus starter sets. Thanks Stephen. Would that be a new tooling of the Br10? Reissue BR10 such as 3708x but let wait and see. |
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Thw Swiss steam will be great !!!!
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Hi, Boys when the photos with new items.
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Pics hereIndeed another 3708x. Gregor
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On Marklin Database the news:
37604 VT11.5
43114 Set Car for 37604
46056 SBB freight car set
37085 BR10 with new cab
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou On Marklin Database the news:
37604 VT11.5
43114 Set Car for 37604
46056 SBB freight car set
37085 BR10 with new cab
39250 C 5/6 Not yet in Marklindatabase The C5/6 is ep VI??? and 46056 the freight car set for C 5/6??' I don't undestand anything |
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Starter Set! Most are MS2.
No CS2 in Starter set for 2016 (rumour about the CS3?)
24802 - Digitale C-Gleis Erg.pack.D2
29000 - Digital-Startpackung MS2 o.ro
29020 - Digital-Startpackung ÖBB
29060 - Digital-Startpackung m.BR 216
29074 - Digital-Startpackung m.BR 74
29256 - Digital-Startpackung niederl.
29323 - Startpackung Güterzug
29452 - Startpackung Containerzug
29479 - Digital-Startset Regional Exp
29542 - Digital-Startpackung BR 38 u.
29641 - Startpackung Moderner Nahverk
29721 - Digital-Startpackung Güterver
29792 - Digital-Startpackung ICE 2
37085 - Dampflok BR 10 DB
37604 - TEE-Triebzug VT 11.5 DB
39250 - Dampflok Serie C 5/6 Elefant
43114 - TEE-Ergänzungsset VT 11.5 DB
44083 - Güterwagen-Set Baustelle
44452 - Wagenset Containerverladung
44700 - Containertragwagen DB AG
46056 - Güterwagen-Set z.Elefant C 5/6
72452 - Containerterminal(manuell)
78452 - Th.-Ergänzungsp.Containerlogi
78479 - Ergänzungs-Set Regional Expre
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou 37085 BR10 with new cab The important point is: new motor! Good bye, maintenance-friendly motor - another model with maintenance-free motor. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS  |
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Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: vilithejou 37085 BR10 with new cab The important point is: new motor! Good bye, maintenance-friendly motor - another model with maintenance-free motor. Yes Tom, you'll have to find somewhere else to grind your coffee beans!  |
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Originally Posted by: RayF Yes Tom, you'll have to find somewhere else to grind your coffee beans! Azackly. " Yes I know what I want and I know where to get it": eBay, clearance sales and such. Show me the 601460 on the spare parts list afore I place my order. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS |
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Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: RayF Yes Tom, you'll have to find somewhere else to grind your coffee beans! Azackly. " Yes I know what I want and I know where to get it": eBay, clearance sales and such. Show me the 601460 on the spare parts list afore I place my order. I fully concur with Tom: I do not trust these new cheap toy motors at all. Eventually, all could go dead, and we will be left with a collection of shelf queens. |
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Originally Posted by: Armando Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: RayF Yes Tom, you'll have to find somewhere else to grind your coffee beans! Azackly. " Yes I know what I want and I know where to get it": eBay, clearance sales and such. Show me the 601460 on the spare parts list afore I place my order. I fully concur with Tom: I do not trust these new cheap toy motors at all. Eventually, all could go dead, and we will be left with a collection of shelf queens. SB-Modellbau will have a kit to remotor it to a Maxon if it becomes necessary. Like others here, I thought about buying spare motors, but which ones may or may not die? A crap shoot at best. A lot of money tied up and no way to know if you made the right choices, if you need any at all. I've now remotored about 20 lokos and they run even better than the sinus drives, both original and the later compact drive. A high quality motor and current motor regulation technology has surpassed the old sinus drive. Sometimes you need to look for the Trix equivalent, but they are mostly all there. http://www.sb-modellbau.com |
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Are the servo controlled paragraphs on the new 1-Gauge 5518* models a first? Addendum: No , apparantly last years E60s had something similar (albeit only one panto) Edited by user 06 January 2016 09:18:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: vilithejou On Marklin Database the news:
37604 VT11.5
43114 Set Car for 37604
46056 SBB freight car set
37085 BR10 with new cab
39250 C 5/6 Not yet in Marklindatabase The C5/6 is ep VI??? and 46056 the freight car set for C 5/6??' I don't undestand anything Seems both the Elephant and the wagon set are Ep. III. |
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: vilithejou On Marklin Database the news:
37604 VT11.5
43114 Set Car for 37604
46056 SBB freight car set
37085 BR10 with new cab
39250 C 5/6 Not yet in Marklindatabase The C5/6 is ep VI??? and 46056 the freight car set for C 5/6??' I don't undestand anything Seems both the Elephant and the wagon set are Ep. III. The first news say that: 39250 SBB Dampflok C 5/6 Ep.6 It's the lok preserved in Biel... Let's see |
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Oh! The Swiss steamer!! I need to have the difficult conversation with my wife!!!! Hmmm!
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Originally Posted by: Armando Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: RayF Yes Tom, you'll have to find somewhere else to grind your coffee beans! Azackly. " Yes I know what I want and I know where to get it": eBay, clearance sales and such. Show me the 601460 on the spare parts list afore I place my order. I fully concur with Tom: I do not trust these new cheap toy motors at all. Eventually, all could go dead, and we will be left with a collection of shelf queens. I am with you too.
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I am looking for my new double Alco in new items but i cannot find anything,neither Mikado,F7,GG1. 
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou
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The first news say that:
39250 SBB Dampflok C 5/6 Ep.6
It's the lok preserved in Biel... Let's see
It makes sense for it to be an Ep. VI. Despite that I based my previous comment on the following links: C5/6WagonsMiguel |
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I wonder if Märklin this time will makeup the K tracks...? |
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The wheels of the Märklin swiss elephant is not correct! |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy The wheels of the Märklin swiss elephant is not correct! It is not a preproduction, It is CAD drawing image. |
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Price in RRP
24802 - Digitale C-Gleis Erg.pack.D2 149,99 EUR
29000 - Digital-Startpackung MS2 o.ro 149,99 EUR
29020 - Digital-Startpackung ÖBB 250,00 EUR
29060 - Digital-Startpackung m.BR 216 250,00 EUR
29074 - Digital-Startpackung m.BR 74 250,00 EUR
29256 - Digital-Startpackung niederl. 449,99 EUR
29323 - Startpackung Güterzug 160,00 EUR
29452 - Startpackung Containerzug 199,99 EUR
29479 - Digital-Startset Regional Exp 349,99 EUR
29542 - Digital-Startpackung BR 38 u. 549,99 EUR
29641 - Startpackung Moderner Nahverk 229,99 EUR
29721 - Digital-Startpackung Güterver 499,99 EUR
29792 - Digital-Startpackung ICE 2 369,99 EUR
37085 - Dampflok BR 10 DB 449,99 EUR
37604 - TEE-Triebzug VT 11.5 DB 799,99 EUR
39250 - Dampflok Serie C 5/6 Elefant 499,99 EUR
43114 - TEE-Ergänzungsset VT 11.5 DB 349,99 EUR
44083 - Güterwagen-Set Baustelle 70,00 EUR
44452 - Wagenset Containerverladung 59,99 EUR
44700 - Containertragwagen DB AG 24,99 EUR
46056 - Güterwagen-Set z.Elefant C 5/6 119,99 EUR
72452 - Containerterminal(manuell) 40,00 EUR
78452 - Th.-Ergänzungsp.Containerlogi 89,99 EUR
78479 - Ergänzungs-Set Regional Expre 79,99 EUR
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: vilithejou On Marklin Database the news:
37604 VT11.5
43114 Set Car for 37604
46056 SBB freight car set
37085 BR10 with new cab
39250 C 5/6 Not yet in Marklindatabase The C5/6 is ep VI??? and 46056 the freight car set for C 5/6??' I don't undestand anything Modellzentrum confirm me by Facebook that it is era III  |
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Yes and It is limited one time series in 2016 for opening Gotthard tunnel. Smoke unit 72270 is included. |
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Delivery dates!
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37604 - Q2
39250 - Q2
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Yes and It is limited one time series in 2016 for opening Gotthard tunnel. Smoke unit 72270 is included. So where did you get your copy of the NI brochure? Are you a dealer?
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The elephant look great  , but seems too much expensive for what it is . It doesn't have telex and only one axle is driven (although this seems to be the new fashion in M* steamers  ). I like it a lot but I am not decided for it unless I find a reasonable price (400 euros). At least for 450 it is already announced in some dealers. In my decision to buy it or not will also be present the location where it is made. If it is in China I need to wait 1 or 2 years to understand if the owners find everything is positive. After had the new Nohab experience I learned the lesson. Relative to the VT11.5 I don't know if it has interior light in the end cars/locomotives. I mean both in the passengers compartment and in the driver compartment. Anyway it is very expensive and I will most probably not buy it, but instead will retrofit light in my old VT11.5. Despite these, I still think it is one great model of Märklin, and I really mean one of the best! So at the moment I have the retro croc on order and will go to the Insider. The Elephant is pending decision. |
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Is there any info on what is contained in the C Track expansion set?
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The elephant is soooooo tempting. I only hesitate as I have a perfectly good pair of roco versions, one with coal tender and one with oil tender. Of course I prefer marklin though. Also, I've spent time underneath the prototype at the Swiss transport Museum!
While the engine is great, the car set seems really boring and expensive!? 120 euros is not worth it for those cars.. |
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Hi all,
Märklin's main competitors have all published their news brochures, so I think it's a silly and outdated policy on the part of the Märklin company to release a few bits of information without showing us all the new items. The online version must be ready by now; if it isn't, then this is one thing that the new owners should change. I'm sure that most Märklin customers would appreciate ...
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Hello again,
Now about the BR10 37085. It is very good that the interior of the cab was rebuilt so now it is much more like the real one was.
It is also good that the tender spacing is improved. It is bad that we don't know exactly what motor it has and I don't understand
why the new tooling doesn't have cabin light...
At least the model was (is being) improved and that is off course positive. Just with few more effort, it could be more improved.
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Originally Posted by: M-Classics Hi all,
Märklin's main competitors have all published their news brochures, so I think it's a silly and outdated policy on the part of the Märklin company to release a few bits of information without showing us all the new items. The online version must be ready by now; if it isn't, then this is one thing that the new owners should change. I'm sure that most Märklin customers would appreciate ...
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"Three light peak signal"?
Is this the official M* translation or is this translation coming from a web shop?
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Originally Posted by: H0 "Three light peak signal"?
Is this the official M* translation or is this translation coming from a web shop?
Normally called "triple headlights" in older brochures. It´s an private translation by of the dealer. Steventrain did probably copy without the license. |
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Originally Posted by: H0 "Three light peak signal"?
Is this the official M* translation or is this translation coming from a web shop?
Normally called "triple headlights" in older brochures. There is US-English, UK-English and we don't know but probably this is Mars-Englishor Andromeda-English. |
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: steventrain
So where did you get your copy of the NI brochure? Are you a dealer? No brochure yet, It came from the link in German http://meisesmobacenter....b66e42f7c337c42d4814f381I am using Microsoft translate to English and then press screenshot for image like above But later I delete the image. |
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Does anybody have any good suggestions about what CIWL coaches (say Rivarossi or LSM) would look good to reproduce a Calais to Italy Express train from Era I or Era II?
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto There is US-English, UK-English and we don't know but probably this is Mars-Englishor Andromeda-English. The new official language variations we have to adapt to are Google English & MS Bing English and then we must have some added linguistic imagination to understand these fully... Better to use some "lousy" English translation than some other obscure language in this forum, I think - Even if it may be incomplete with some few parts "lost in translation".  Now we are waiting for pics or a dealer pdf catalogue link to see all the new 2016 items. Will come within a few days, I'm sure... |
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Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,448 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Is there any info on what is contained in the C Track expansion set?
Maybe a set with the new R4 points?
I think the operative focus is around the "Digitale" Also they use the term "D2" which appears to represent a variant of the C* designation. My guess is that it is part of a new range of 2480* "D*" expansion sets that run parallel to the 2490* "C*" sets but With the inclusion of motors and decoder(s) Thus the 24802 = 24902 plus digital components If so and the decoder(s) are 74461's and not 60831's then I predict that the sales numbers will be close to zero. P.S. Whoever in Marklin is managing this piecemeal announcement should be shot. Edited by user 31 March 2016 22:34:17(UTC)
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