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Goofy		#51 Posted : 12 November 2014 20:53:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,277		Originally Posted by: Purellum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detonation I think your Google translate needs an update. Per. You avoid from the word Power by distinguishing the two words. There s no need to update google translate.
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Goofy		#52 Posted : 12 November 2014 20:55:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,277		Originally Posted by: Ukko-Pekka Taitaa pojilla olla puurot ja vellit sekaisin... I think theres too many misunderstoods here... Ström is current, not power... So ström spikningar must be current spike (eli virtapiikki). And about twisting wires, i think other is speaking about twisting the end of wire, other is speaking of twisting wires together as pairs... If you understand what im trying to say here... Ström=stream...flow...torrent...onflow...flux...power...current...yes i did understand.
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Purellum		#53 Posted : 12 November 2014 21:04:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,528 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		I hope BD will accept this Quote: I think theres too many misunderstoods here... Ström is current, not power... So ström spikningar must be current spike (eli virtapiikki). You are correct that ström is current; but explaining this to "everybody" can be quite hard, so I didn't comment on that minor error. However, current doesn't spike without a reason; either the voltage or the resistance has to change before the current changes. ( Unless you have a current generator, which is very unusual, and it can't be to used as a power supply for any Märklin equipment. ) Following Ohm's law and a bit of knowledge, it is the voltage that can change a little, making the current change at the same time. Per.
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Goofy		#54 Posted : 13 November 2014 07:02:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,277		This is not correct Per! When you connect voltage to trafo without to use it,the power or current whatever you say is not using. When you start use trafo power/current start to use to feed to outsource. The power detonation are result when it happens interference via power/current. I didn´t said it happens all the times,but sometimes it do happens interference which result to power detonation. If you did just write swedish language "ström spikningar" translate to english,you will get same result to "power detonation".
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Bigdaddynz		#55 Posted : 13 November 2014 08:11:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand		Goofy, I asked you not to carry on this pointless argument. Please stop NOW! You will not get another warning.
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Purellum		#56 Posted : 13 November 2014 21:09:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,528 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		I rest my case, too much struggling in vain, even for me. Poor François-Marie, André-Marie, Georg Simon and Hans Christian. Per.
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Bigdaddynz		#57 Posted : 13 November 2014 21:39:20(UTC) Retweet
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RayF		#58 Posted : 13 November 2014 22:24:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		I like that phrase, "Power detonation" I get mental pictures of transformers exploding, scattering white-hot bits of copper everywhere... Nothing like a bit of exitement in the train room!
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DV		#59 Posted : 13 November 2014 22:37:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/11/2009(UTC) Posts: 957 Location: Mount Barker, South Australia		Originally Posted by: Purellum I rest my case, too much struggling in vain, even for me. Poor François-Marie, André-Marie, Georg Simon and Hans Christian. Per. Per, do you know why you like beating your head against the wall..............................................................it's the feeling you get when you stop oops, I might just might have stepped over the line
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Bigdaddynz		#60 Posted : 14 November 2014 11:45:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: RayF I get mental pictures of transformers exploding, scattering white-hot bits of copper everywhere... Same here!
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Goofy		#61 Posted : 14 November 2014 17:47:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,277		Cough cough... Goofy attached the following image(s):
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kiwiAlan		#62 Posted : 14 November 2014 18:09:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,476 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: Goofy Cough cough... uh huh, OK, but when I use Google translate and hold the mouse cursor over words it also gives me an alternative translation ... However when I use Google translate with this phrase it thinks it is Icelandic, which produces a real weird translation. And the alternative words provided are insufficient and do not match Pers translation, which in English makes much more sense.


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Purellum		#63 Posted : 14 November 2014 18:24:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,528 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Maybe it would be a good idea to use the correct term in Swedish, which is "spänningsspik", before translating it to English. Then Google translate gives you: Voltage spike. ( Translating "power detonation" from English to Swedish in Google gives: "Effekt detonation". ) Per. Cough cough cough
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Bigdaddynz		#64 Posted : 14 November 2014 19:03:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: Goofy Cough cough... Yes, we know that Goofy, we all tried that ourselves. But that doesn't mean that Google is providing a correct translation. The term 'Power Detonation' makes no sense in this context, and means something entirely different to what you are talking about - images of power stations exploding come to mind as Ray points out. Believe me, Per is correct when he uses the term 'voltage spikes' (and since Per is an electrical engineer he does know what he is talking about). I did warn you Goofy not to carry on this argument, and since this topic has deviated from its original theme, I'm going to lock it.
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