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Joined: 09/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,533 Location: VA
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Hello all, Telex locomotives are great. Even more so, as I designed my new layout, I realized how useful telex locomotives would be a station/yard pilots. Out of curiosity, I was looking to assemble a list of all analog telex locomotives, as I don't think there are that many. Here's what I have, please feel free to add on: Marklin # - Class - Years Made - Motor type - NotesAnalog locos: 3026 - BR01 - (1958-1959) - LFCM 3 pole 3027 - BR44 - (1958-1963) - LFCM 3 pole 3031 - BR81 - (1962-1974) - SFCM 3 pole 3047 - BR44 - (1964-1973) - SFCM 3 pole 3065 - V60 - (1963-1992) - SFCM 3 pole 3096 - BR86 - (1971-1995) - LFCM 3 pole 3131 - cl.361 - (1989-1999) - SFCM 3 pole (Former V60) 3309 - BR85 - (1983-1995) - DCM 3 pole 30321 - BR81 - (1996-2002) - LFCM 3 pole Delta locos (telex will operate in analog): 33961 - BR86 - (1997-2005) - LFCM 3 pole 34641 - cl.365 - (1997-2004) - DCM 3 pole (Former v60) What's missing? Edited by user 25 October 2013 18:49:38(UTC)
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There are a couple of Delta versions of these also with Telex that works in analogue mode. You might consider adding these to your list. |
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Joined: 09/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,533 Location: VA
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Thanks Ray - I don't know which they are? Do you know the numbers or classes?
Do you mean models like 3631, 3664 (V60) and 33961 (BR86)? |
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3026 BR 01 (1958+1959 only)
Regards
Markus
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA  Hello all,
Telex locomotives are great. Even more so, as I designed my new layout, I realized how useful telex locomotives would be a station/yard pilots. Out of curiosity, I was looking to assemble a list of all analog telex locomotives, as I don't think there are that many. Here's what I have, please feel free to add on:
3027 - BR44 3031 - BR81 3047 - BR44 3065 - V60 3096 - BR86 3131 - Cl. 361 (V60) 3309 - BR85
What's missing? Mores the pity there are only so few!! I have the 3309 (BR85), converted to digital, and the newer 37906 (BRV90), also with Telex; I find it such fun to be able to uncouple "anywhere" on the layout! and for shunting it is first class! Joe
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Joined: 22/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 365
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Hi Joe,
Here is a few 3148 Di 5, deutsche Diesellok BR 260 30321 2002 Relais III 81 003
Cheers, Brian |
Brian Yaasan's Desktop Station/Railuino & Marklin MS2, DB Era III/IV Diesel & Steam, ESU Loksound/Lokpilot & Lokprogrammer, Marklin mSD, Tam Valley Depot Octopus III Servo Controller. |
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Originally Posted by: Lollo  Hi Joe,
Here is a few 3148 Di 5, deutsche Diesellok BR 260 30321 2002 Relais III 81 003
Cheers, Brian Hi Brian, 3148 was the NSB (Norway) Version of the V60 (260) and did not come with TELEX. Regards Markus
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA  Thanks Ray - I don't know which they are? Do you know the numbers or classes?
Do you mean models like 3631, 3664 (V60) and 33961 (BR86)? Hi Brandon, The 3631 and 3664 are digital, and the TELEX won't work in analogue operation, but there are some Delta versions with the 66032 decoder wich allow telex to operate in analogue mode in the same way as with the old relays. One example is the 34641: http://www.maerklin.com/...etails.html?art_nr=34641The 33961 you mention is also equipped in this way. These are the only two I can find on the Marklin database, but I'm sure there are some more. |
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Joined: 09/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,533 Location: VA
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Thanks everyone. I'll edit the list at the top to keep a consolidated source of info, including any posts beyond this one.
It is a pity there weren't many. I don't think it would be terribly hard to convert a analog loco to telex, but would be nice to have a few more factory examples over so many years. It's also a little disappointing there are so many of the same classes. This may be a collection for me to start (currently I have 3096 and 3309)!
Also seems like all the locos are DB, and also mostly era III, some IV/V. |
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Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 4,000 Location: Paremata, Wellington
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA  Thanks everyone. I'll edit the list at the top to keep a consolidated source of info, including any posts beyond this one.
It is a pity there weren't many. I don't think it would be terribly hard to convert a analog loco to telex, but would be nice to have a few more factory examples over so many years. It's also a little disappointing there are so many of the same classes. This may be a collection for me to start (currently I have 3096 and 3309)!
Also seems like all the locos are DB, and also mostly era III, some IV/V. It's a good question and topic. I have a 260 which I love for shunting but the slow-speed control has always disappointed me. I got to try a BR360 last weekend during our session and it ran really nice, if I recall it was a 5-pole which would make quite a difference. For me, especially when shunting you want really slow crawling speeds. The ultimate would be a Sinus / Softdrive motor with Telex. Thanks for creating the list - can I suggest/request that you add the motor type with each entry? ie my cl 260 (3065) is basic 3-pole FCM Cheers Cookee |
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Markus Schild wrote:
Hi Brian,
3148 was the NSB (Norway) Version of the V60 (260) and did not come with TELEX.
Regards
Markus
Correct, Markus, but the different V60 versions without Telex are easy to rebuild to Telex, using the coupler parts from the versions with Telex. For analouge operation I would use the Delta decoder 66032. The same goes for the Br86-versions without Telex, using the parts from e.g. 3096. I have rebuilt several of both locomotives. |
Best regards Svein, Norway grumpy old sod
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Joined: 09/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,533 Location: VA
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Cookee,
I would be happy to do this, good idea. Do you know a good source were I could look the motor type up? I have a few of them, so I can list those, but they are mostly 3-pole FCM or 3-pole DCM (3065, 3096, 3309). |
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Here's my first stab. Let me know what needs corection:
3026 - BR01 (1958/1959 only) - LFCM 3 pole 3027 - BR44 - LFCM 3 pole 3031 - BR81 - SFCM 3 pole 3047 - BR44 - SFCM 3 pole 3065 - V60 - SFCM 3 pole 3096 - BR86 - SFCM 3 pole 3131 - Cl. 361 (V60) - SFCM 3 pole 3309 - BR85 - DCM 3 pole 30321 - BR81 - ?
Delta locos (telex will operate in analog):
33961 - BR86 - SFCM 3 pole 34641 - Cl. 365 (V60) - DCM 3 pole
Does that seem right? What about 30321? Not sure, I would guess it uses a SFCM 3 pole? If this is correct, seems like most of them use FCM 3 pole motors...although I believe there as a 5 star upgrade for 3309. If I can find the info I will post it here. |
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Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 4,000 Location: Paremata, Wellington
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA  Here's my first stab. Let me know what needs corection:
3026 - BR01 (1958/1959 only) - LFCM 3 pole 3027 - BR44 - LFCM 3 pole 3031 - BR81 - SFCM 3 pole 3047 - BR44 - SFCM 3 pole 3065 - V60 - SFCM 3 pole 3096 - BR86 - SFCM 3 pole 3131 - Cl. 361 (V60) - SFCM 3 pole 3309 - BR85 - DCM 3 pole 30321 - BR81 - ?
Delta locos (telex will operate in analog):
33961 - BR86 - SFCM 3 pole 34641 - Cl. 365 (V60) - DCM 3 pole
Does that seem right? What about 30321? Not sure, I would guess it uses a SFCM 3 pole? If this is correct, seems like most of them use FCM 3 pole motors...although I believe there as a 5 star upgrade for 3309. If I can find the info I will post it here. Looks good, sometime you can tell from a model what motor it will have from when it was released, other times it's just personal experience of knowing what motor is fitted - good update, thanks. I take it there were no Primex models with Telex fitted?, are any of the above in the 'Hobby' line? |
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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz  Looks good, sometime you can tell from a model what motor it will have from when it was released, other times it's just personal experience of knowing what motor is fitted - good update, thanks.
I take it there were no Primex models with Telex fitted?, are any of the above in the 'Hobby' line?
Thanks Cookee. I'm not sure about Primex, I would guess no. Primex did have a V60, 262 and BR81...but as far as I can tell they are not telex. I believe they are versions of models 3064, 3141 and 3032 respectively. I think Marklin probably reserved telex for the "high tech" brand (at least telex was a novel idea when originally introduced). Does anyone else know for sure? 30321 (BR81) was classified as a hobby model (and listed as all metal body). I do not think any of the others were. I am going to guess that 30321 has the same motor as 3021, since 30321 seems to be an updated part number for the 3021 model or a reintroduction of the model under the hobby line. I actually found the best to determine motor way was as you say - I used some experience. I looked up the parts diagrams for the locos that I did not have on Marklin's website, which allowed me to find out what the other motor types were. There is no parts diagram for 30321 on the Marklin site, just a list. |
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Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway
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BrandonVA wrote:Here's my first stab. Let me know what needs corection:
3026 - BR01 (1958/1959 only) - LFCM 3 pole 3027 - BR44 - LFCM 3 pole 3031 - BR81 - SFCM 3 pole 3047 - BR44 - SFCM 3 pole 3065 - V60 - SFCM 3 pole 3096 - BR86 - SFCM 3 pole 3131 - Cl. 361 (V60) - SFCM 3 pole 3309 - BR85 - DCM 3 pole 30321 - BR81 - ?
Delta locos (telex will operate in analog):
33961 - BR86 - SFCM 3 pole 34641 - Cl. 365 (V60) - DCM 3 pole
Does that seem right? What about 30321? Not sure, I would guess it uses a SFCM 3 pole? If this is correct, seems like most of them use FCM 3 pole motors...although I believe there as a 5 star upgrade for 3309. If I can find the info I will post it here. A hint, Brandon: 3096 - BR86 - LFCM 3 pole I think you are correct about the 30321. |
Best regards Svein, Norway grumpy old sod
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Joined: 09/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,533 Location: VA
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Thanks! I am pretty sure that will move 33961 to LFCM 3 pole as well.
I am currently looking up production years for all these models. When I have that I'll add the years and motor types to the original list via edit. |
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Joined: 09/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,533 Location: VA
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I have edited the original post to update the information. Thanks to everyone for helping. I also found that the 3309 "5 star" was digital (3709), and thus does not apply to this list. |
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Joined: 29/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,422 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Great to see this post. I just got a 3031 in the mail and was wondering if we could write a "how to" for trouble-shooting and for getting the thing to uncouple properly. For example, it seems to me I have go through all my rolling stock and adjust the couplers with a needle nose pliers and a the coupler gauge. Also wondering about cleaning or power-supply to get the magnet to work at maximum strength, because I have noticed it doesn't always flip up all the way, and I have to go through the four-phase cycle again. -forward -uncoupling-forward -reverse -uncoupling reverse. I think someone mentioned in the post about the 3031 https://www.marklin-user...--Amazing-discovery.aspx... that they would like to see a digital version only pop the uncoupler on the side of the direction in which it is needed, instead of on both sides, which could leave cars on the opposite side--if the tank is pushing and pulling at the same time--not properly coupled or uncoupled, even though it is pushing. Very glad Brandon mentioned that you should not keep going around the the circuit with it in the "uncoupling" state. Makes perfect sense. Any more tips on how to get maximum functionality with it? BTW I have an ebay bargain/special that is 3065 box, with the 5 scratched off and changed to a 4. It doesn't really run, just turns slowly when power is supplied. Coupler is quite similar to a telex coupler except with the same "tongue". [Providing I can get this one running without a total rebuild...] How do I convert it to a proper telex coupler? Do you get the couplers on ebay.de? Or elsewhere? From Marklin? BTW ... thanks for doing the research Brandon! Once again you are a very useful ... engineer! You will be the one to pick up the new coaches from Brendam Docks. - Topham Hat |
DB DR FS NS SNCF c. 1950-65, fan of station architecture esp. from 1920-70. In single point perspective, where do track lines meet?
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Joined: 09/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,533 Location: VA
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Mark - I just hope to be really useful. As for the telex, it seems to work best with the older reflex couplers. It does work with the close/NEM, but it's harder. I find with the older reflex, especially the metal ones, you have to be very careful in stopping the loco so that the verticle "pin" at the end of the coupler is not touching either end of the coupler "ring"...instead it's just in the middle. This prevents friction in lifting the ring up. Also, older metal reflex can be very, very midly lubricated to help this function. I find that new brushes, clean wheels and pickup shoes help the performance of telex especially. Telex does not seem to behave very well if there is not a very good supply of power on a section of track. It's a bit picky ;) I hope this description makes sense. As far as both ends uncoupling at the same time, as you move the engine you can "push" the cars on one end, then when you turn telex off they will still be there. Maybe this is the opposite end you want, but a consideration. You also become the master of "double click" to reverse the engine instead of doing telex every time. I am not sure if you need other parts for a telex conversion. I think the tongue will be easy to find, as V60/262 came in few telex varieties and were made for a number of years, but I think you need some work on the "guts". I am sure somebody will speak up. I have a 3065 and 3141, both V60/262, one with telex and one without. I'll see if I can take the covers off this weekend and see what other differences there are. -Brandon |
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Hi,
To convert a 3064 to a 3065 you will need a different reversing unit, the "tongue", and the electromagnetic coils. I would suggest searching ebay germany for parts, and you should be able to get the whole telex coupler as an assembly Then you will only need 2x telex assemblies and 1 x reversing unit, plus a little effort.
Cheers...
Mike.
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA  Mark, Here are a couple of photos of 3141 (cl 262, no Telex) and 3065 (V60, Telex). 3141 is the green one with black coloured coils, 3065 is the red one with the copper coloured coils. Based on Mike's description, this may help you with configuration in conversion:  So let me get this straight. The reversal unit as well as the couplings themselves are different. And the reversal unit has 4 positions that it rotates through. The irony of that is that some of my older analog loks that are not telex require two jolts to change position. It never occurred to me that they may have had the wrong reversal unit replaced in them at one point. Will have to inspect and see if exchanging the two might work. Mark |
DB DR FS NS SNCF c. 1950-65, fan of station architecture esp. from 1920-70. In single point perspective, where do track lines meet?
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Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,878 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square
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Mark,
It was mentioned here before regarding the 2 clicks to reverse a loco, this system or method enabled you tomrun 2 locos independently and Ian demonstrated this in one of his videos. your 3065 has the same method except the next slot is reserved for the telex coupling.
regards.,
John
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Mark,
This is correct. If you look at the overhead shot, just to the left of the motor housing (and on the right side of the reverse unit) you can see the little teeth that control it. The red one (telex) has 4, the green one (standard) has 2. You also will see a couple of extra wires attached to the telex reverse unit.
As far as your locos that require a couple of jolts to reverse....which ones are they? As John stated, a few locos did this on purpose. However, they can also do it if the reverse spring is worn out, if there is dirt somewhere inhibiting the connection or they are not receiving a good clean power feed from the track. The last would be best exampled by a loco trying to be reversed on a very large oval with a single feeder at the furthest point away from the feeder.
Now a question: Does anyone know if Marklin ever produced an electronic reverse unit for telex that could be univesally fitting? I believe BR85 (Marklin 3309) has an electronic reverse unit as all 33xx series locos had electronic units to my understanding. I wonder if this one could be used for Mark's retrofit? It would cause a cleaner reverse click and the loco would not jump...which you do not really want when shunting.
-Brandon
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The 66032 Delta decoder is specifically designed to perform this function in analogue mode. |
Ray
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Ray,
Thanks for the model number. This is a good option.
If for some reason people don't want Delta, the analog reverse unit (not electronic) is Marklin part number 229700, and currently shows in stock. Marklin's site lists the same part number for 3065 (V60), 3309 (BR85), etc. The diagram clearly shows an analog design.
To answer my own question from above, it does not appear Marklin ever produced an electronic telex reverse unit. The newest model reverse unit specified for any of the analog models in the above list is the aforementioned 229700. Therefore, if you want this electronic reversing performance, you will need to go with Ray's helpful suggestion of Delta Decoder 66032.
-Brandon |
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List of Locomotives with Telex functions :
Analog Locomotives with Telex :
3026 - BR01 DB 3027 - BR44 DB 3031 - BR81 DB 3047 - BR44 DB 3065 - BR260(V60) DB 3096 - BR86 DB 3131 - BR361 DB 3309 - BR85 DB 3396 - BR86 - Mounted with Telex but no magnets mounted on model (production error) 3931 - BR81 DB 3947 - BR44 DB 30321 - BR81 DB
Delta Locomotives with Telex :
33961 - BR86 DB 34641 - BR361 DB/AG
Digital Locomotives with Telex :
3631 - BR361 DB 3664 - BR260 DB 3665 - BR260(V60) DB 3696 - BR86 DB 3709 - BR85 DB 36340 - Köf III BR 335, DB AG 36827 - BR 323 DB (Köf) 36829 - TM 34 SOB (Köf) 37000 - BR212 DB 37001 - Reihe 2048 DB 37615 - BR260 DB 37648 - BR260 DB 37649 - BR260 DB 37650 - BR V60 DB 37652 - BR362 DB AG 37653 - Serie 260 SNCB/NMBS 37654 - BR261 DB 37655 - BR V60 DB 37832 - BR50 ÖBB 37841 - BR50 DB 37843 - BR50 DB 37848 - BR50 DB 37849 - BR50 DRG 37860 - BR86 DRG 37883 - BR 44 Öl DB 37885 - BR 43 DB 37886 - Serie 150x SNCF 37887 - Serie 150x SNCF 37889 - BR 44 DB 37903 - BR V90 DB 37921 - BR294 DB AG 37953 - BR03 DB 37954 - BR03 DB
Locomotives in the following Startset's is also with Telex-functions.
26508 - (Locomotive 3396 - BR86 DB - Digital) 26510 - (Wagon 1 with Telex) - Tunnelrettungszug 28508 - (Locomotive 33961 - BR86 DB - Digital) 29524 - (Locomotive - BR260 SNCB - Digital) 29532 - (Locomotive - BR86 DB - Digital) 29533 - (Locomotive 3696 - BR86 DB - Digital) 29534 - (Locomotive - BR86 DB - Digital) 29535 - (Locomotive 3096 - BR86 DB - Delta) 29536 - (Locomotive 3096 - BR86 DB - Digital) 29537 - (Locomotive 3096 - BR86 DB - Delta) 29538 - (Locomotive 3096 - Br86 DB - Delta) |
CS3+ 60216 ( SW:2.5.2 ) / CS2 60215 ( SW:4.3.0 ) / MS2 60653/57 ( SW:4.28 ) / MS1 60652 ( SW:1.8 AP ) / 60883 S88 LINK ( SW:1.1 ) MDT 3 (SW 3.6.0) - HW: ( 60970 / 60971 / 60801 ) & ESU LOKPROGRAMMER ( SW 5.2.12 ) / ESU HW: 53451 / 53900 / 53901
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36829....never seen it....where is it please ?
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Hi, See attached. Also, adding models produced since the above list (all Digital): 36341 - BR335 (Kof) DB 37003 - BRV100.10 DB 37043 - BR80 DRG 37589 - BR58.10-12 DB 37616 - BR261(V60) DB 37695 - Class 8000 (V60) SNCB 37862 - BR86 DB (set of 2) 37895 - BR44 DB (Weathered) 37906 - BR V90 DB 37907 - BR290 (V90) DB -Brandon BrandonVA attached the following image(s): |
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the delivery of this model always was postponed...last time they said OK for "2013"....I haven't seen it in real yet....did I miss something ?
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Originally Posted by: jeehring  the delivery of this model always was postponed...last time they said OK for "2013"....I haven't seen it in real yet....did I miss something ? Jeehring, I misunderstood your question. It looks like right now they are claiming December 2013. I can't find any photos that are not the Marklin photo, so I think it must not exist yet. I suspect that it's probably as Tom mentioned in the other thread...shortage of telex parts. -Brandon |
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I found this model interesting, and I couldn't find it even on Marklin website (sometimes Marklin's website is blocked) . I was a bit worry...I even thought my dealer forgot to show it to me.... I forgot that I could refer to updates from Steven too Now I know.....Thank you Brandon
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Originally Posted by: jeehring  I found this model interesting, and I couldn't find it even on Marklin website (sometimes Marklin's website is blocked) . I was a bit worry...I even thought my dealer forgot to show it to me.... I forgot that I could refer to updates from Steven too Now I know.....Thank you Brandon You an see delivery dates here (copy and paste address): How often it is updated (or how often dates are pushed back), I do not know. -Brandon |
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The delivery dates PDF is normally updated once per month.
The two Köf II with Telex (one a 2011 new item, one a 2012 new item) are now announced for December 2013. I presume some who ordered them won't get them this year, but next year. Would be nice if they ship some already this year. In January 2013, the #36827 was announced for Q2/13. In January 2012, the #36827 was announced for Q4/12. |
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Hi, since Märklin and Roco produce telex coupling with an actual coupling, you could use any loco with telex coupling, I have converted a few locos from analog to digital and at the same time used the Roco telex coupling. I've also converted a BR 44 SNCF (3046) with telex coupling, using an ex 3047 bogie and changed the outer bogie cover from red to black, the loco has since been sold, it was also converted with a 5 pole high efficiency motor, ESU sound decoder and led's front and tender, gearlight and firebox. here is a video from my converted E 63's with Roco telex couplings (front & rear John |
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