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Originally Posted by: vilithejou  it's a fake??? Märklin has an explosion diagram for that loco on their site (showing four powered axles and four traction tyres). So it's very likely that the E 93 will come - Insider or Outsider or whatever. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS  |
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Well... A danish hobby store did confirm this too and some of the wagon sets too via facebook. |
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37870 is on lokshop website.
Insider 2014.
INSIDER E-Lok E93 DB Ep.III H0/WS DIGITAL SOUND - 37870 NUR MIT BESTELLSCHEIN BESTELLSCHLUSS 31.03.2014 Güterzug-Elektrolokomotive Baureihe E 93, DB Vorbild: Schwere Güterzug-Elektrolokomotive Baureihe E 93 07 der Deutschen Bundesbahn (DB). Flaschengrüne Grundfarbgebung. Betriebszustand um 1960. Modell: Mit Digital-Decoder mfx und umfangreichen Geräuschfunktionen. Geregelter Hochleistungs-antrieb mit Schwungmasse, zentral eingebaut. Jeweils 2 Achsen in jedem Treibgestell über Kardan angetrieben. Fahrtrichtungsabhängig wechselndes Dreilicht-Spitzensignal und zwei rote Schlusslichter konventionell in Betrieb, digital schaltbar. Spitzensignal an Lokseite 2 und 1 jeweils digital separat abschaltbar. Wenn Spitzensignal an beiden Lokseiten abgeschaltet ist, dann beidseitige Funktion des Doppel-A-Lichtes. Zusätzlich kann die Führerstands-beleuchtung digital geschaltet werden. Beleuchtung mit wartungsfreien warmweißen und roten Leuchtdioden (LED). Führerstände und Maschinenraum mit Relief-Inneneinrichtung. Ansteckbare Bremsschläuche und Kupplungshaken liegen separat bei. LüP 20,3 cm. UVP 349,95 EUR
INSIDER Wagen-Set 1 zur E93 DB H0/WS - 46199 NUR MIT BESTELLSCHEIN BESTELLSCHLUSS 31.03.2014 Güterwagen-Set 1 zur E93, DB Vorbild: 6 Güterwagen unterschiedlicher Ausführung der Deutschen Bundesbahn (DB). 2 Schiebewand-/-dachwagen Kmmgks 58. 1 Muldenkippwagen Ommi 51. 1 Schiebedachwagen Kmmks 51. 1 gedeckter Selbstentladewagen Ktmmvs 69. 1 Kesselwagen der VTG. Betriebszustand Anfang der 60er Jahre. Modell: Schiebewand-/-dachwagen mit und ohne Bremserbühne. Muldenkippwagen mit Bremserstand und mit Schotter in maßstäblicher Körnung beladen. Schiebedachwagen mit Bremserbühne und ohne Bremserhaus. Gedeckter Selbstentladewagen. Kesselwagen der VTG. Alle Wagen mit unterschiedlichen Betriebsnummern und einzeln verpackt. Gesamtlänge über Puffer ca. 67,6 cm UVP 199,95 EUR
INSIDER Wagen-Set 2 zur E93 DB H0/WS - 47321 NUR MIT BESTELLSCHEIN BESTELLSCHLUSS 31.03.2014: Güterwagen-Set 2 zur E93, DB Vorbild: 6 unterschiedliche Güterwagen der Deutschen Bundesbahn (DB). 4 Güterwagen Gl(t)mm(eh)s mit und ohne Stirntüren und mit und ohne Heizkupplung. 1 Gaskesselwagen der VTG. 1 Rungenwagen Rr 20. Modell: 1 gedeckter Güterwagen mit Stirnwandtüren und Heizkupplung. 1 gedeckter Güterwagen ohne Stirnwandtüren und ohne Heizkupplung. 1 Gaskesselwagen ohne Sonnenschutzdach der VTG. 1 gedeckter Güterwagen ohne Stirnwandtüren und mit Heizkupplung. 1 Rungenwagen mit Metallrungen und Holzbeladung. 1 gedeckter Güterwagen mit Stirntüren und ohne Heizkupplung. Alle Wagen mit unterschiedlichen Betriebsnummern. Gesamtlänge über Puffer ca. 93,8 cm. UVP 179,95 EUR |
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Any pictures anywhere? The E 93 is very similar to the E94, is it not? I believe Piko make one.  |
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Originally Posted by: RayF  The E 93 is very similar to the E94, is it not? I believe Piko make one. Right. Good news for me, good news for my wallet: I already have the Piko model. E 93 and E 94 are very similar, but E 94 is faster and more powerful. Only 18 E 93 were made, but 200 E 94. I expect a new E 94 will come from Märklin a few years later. The E 94 will allow more livery variations. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS  |
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I think this time model will have head lighting front of the body frame. |
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Trix Profi Club 2014 model.
PROFI-CLUB E-Lok E93 DB Ep.III H0/GL DIGITAL SOUND - 22870 NUR MIT BESTELLSCHEIN BESTELLSCHLUSS 31.03.2014 Güterzug-Elektrolokomotive Baureihe E 93, DB Vorbild: Schwere Güterzug-Elektrolokomotive Baureihe E 93 der Deutschen Bundesbahn (DB). Flaschengrüne Grundfarbgebung. Betriebsnummer E 93 07. Betriebszustand um 1960. Modell: Mit DCC/mfx-Digital-Decoder und umfangreichen Geräuschfunktionen. Geregelter Hochleistungsantrieb mit Schwungmasse, zentral eingebaut. Jeweils 2 Achsen in jedem Treibgestell über Kardan angetrieben. Haftreifen. Fahrtrichtungsabhängig wechselndes Dreilicht-Spitzensignal und zwei rote Schlusslichter konventionell in Betrieb, digital schaltbar. Spitzensignal an Lokseite 2 und 1 jeweils digital separat abschaltbar. Wenn Spitzensignal an beiden Lokseiten abgeschaltet ist, dann beidseitige Funktion des Doppel-A-Lichtes. Zusätzlich kann die Führerstandsbeleuchtung digital geschaltet werden. Beleuchtung mit wartungsfreien warmweißen und roten Leuchtdioden (LED). Angesetzte Griffstangen. Führerstände und Maschinenraum mit Relief-Inneneinrichtung. Ansteckbare Bremsschläuche und Kupplungshaken liegen separat bei. Länge über Puffer 20,3 cm. Highlights: Komplette Neuentwicklung. Besonders filigrane Metallkonstruktion. Mit DCC/mfx-Decoder und umfangreichen Betriebs- und Geräuschfunktionen. Führerstandsbeleuchtung digital schaltbar. Beleuchtung mit warmweißen und roten Leuchtdioden (LED).
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Originally Posted by: Goofy  I think this time model will have head lighting front of the body frame. Initially the third headlight was above the windows of the engineer's cab. Later it was moved to the front right above the other two lights. I don't know which configuration is correct for a loco of the 1960s. I'd expect three lamps above the buffer beam. But for any DR version they need the third headlight above the cab. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS  |
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Years before Piko came with their E93, Verbeck made a kit for the conversion of a Märklin E94 into a E93. I came with a new white metal loco body, so these models are quite heavy. I have one of these in my collection.
One E93 is enough, I also wouldn't by a new Märklin E94. I have several versions of the old model - it may be old tooling, but it's not a bad model. So these are good news for my wallet. Or not so good news, as the money will surely be spent on some nice trams instead.
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Hi!
Was this loco included in the "poll" Märklin made among Insiders some time ago?
I think it's a nice loco (and era III!). A good choice as an Insider-model. And as said above, hopefully a new tooling E94 will follow.
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Originally Posted by: mjrallare  Was this loco included in the "poll" Märklin made among Insiders some time ago? IIRC it was not. After many special Insider models, this is a rather ordinary loco (like the BR 58.10-21). Will they get back to the poll list (the V 320 made it into the Top 6)? |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS  |
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Originally Posted by: H0  Will they get back to the poll list (the V 320 made it into the Top 6)? And the Br06 scored quite highly, AFAIR. It makes a bit of a mockery of the whole polling thing if they don't then completely follow up on it.
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New owners... New Poll.. |
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Originally Posted by: xxup  New owners... New Poll.. Doesn't matter, same customers, same expectations!
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Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS  |
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Thanks for reminding us, Tom.
At least they gave us the Br58, which was the top choice on our poll.
I still hope they'll make the Br06 at some point. It's just such a beautiful loco! |
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And I must say - the BR58 is the most detailed steamer I've ever seen from M... Excellent model....
E93 in 2014 is good for my budget/wallet, not "necessary" for me to have ... |
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Hi all,
The E94 was due for an upgrade in both motor train and body in my opinion. It is smart of Marklin to start the process by producing something slightly different, an E93. It certainly widens the appeal for hobbyists looking for a variation on a theme.
My E94 was a Marklin production in the last 5 years. Something tells me that things like molded on hand rails, and noisy motors, both beautifully nostalgic, belong in the past.
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow  Something tells me that things like molded on hand rails, and noisy motors, both beautifully nostalgic, belong in the past. No - but sooner or later noisy motors will come in blue boxes exclusively. Moulded on handrails also come with current "hobby" models. Transparency is good. If well-informed customers get what they expect, there will be no disappointments. Just dreaming ... |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS  |
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Something tells me that things like molded on hand rails, and noisy motors, both beautifully nostalgic, belong in the past. I hope not.I love noicy motors,they are working for ever.
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Originally Posted by: RayF  Any pictures anywhere? The E 93 is very similar to the E94, is it not? I believe Piko make one.  I Had a look on special books : E94 & E93 look similar but are not the same size: Overall length, E 94 = 18600mm, E = 93 = 17700mm ( buffers are Almost the same lenght: E94 = 660mm, E93 =650mm,only 1 cm difference)
Wheelbase: E94 = 13700mm, E 93 = 12800mm (almost 1 meter different) Space between two inner axles of each bogie: E94 = 4500mm , E93 = 4000mm... On each bogie, space between axles is slightly different too....I said "slightly" only ( 15 cm & 5 cm different, not very meaningful in HO scale) I hope Marklin will stop with cheap plastic handrails  . I prefer Metal handrails.  BTW : Did you notice the light weight of new Marklin models by comparison with former productions just a decade ago ?...
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Nice locomotive, but it's not a steamer. I have no plans to buy this one. |
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The mfx plus E93 Insider will have cab control with CS2 - Insider club news magazine 5/2013. |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain  The mfx plus E93 Insider will have cab control with CS2 - Insider club news magazine 5/2013. But it needs to upgrade CS2 again because cabinet is not the same as modern electric loco. |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy  But it needs to upgrade CS2 again because cabinet is not the same as modern electric loco. They don't say that in the Insider Club News. AFAIK Märklin has universal cabs - one for steam, one for diesel, one for electrics. We'll see if they bring a new cab for the E 93. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS  |
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Roco has severals cabinet which representation difference era. Marklin can fix that too. |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy  Marklin can fix that too. They can. But will they? We know from Peter's mfx+ review that you can see any of the three existing cab views with any mfx+ loco by changing the MS1 type of the loco. There are only three possible selections in the MS1 type list. To allow more than three different cabs, they have to change that mechanism. Therefore I think they will most likely stick to the three generic loco cab views they already have. Roco sell each cab view. Therefore they have a strong interest in making as many different cab views as possible. They even made one for the Big Boy even though Roco does not make any Big Boys. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS  |
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Roco sell a cab layout for the Big Boy.....hmmmm maybe I should look at the Z21 again.
If only the Z21 did MFX....and MFX+
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There really is nothing that should stop Marklin from making prototypically correct cabs for each loco. Some 15 years ago I was doing graphic art work and making "skins" for different apps like "winamp" and other app a friend and I were making for viewing fixed online cams.
I have no doubt if Marklin made a "skinable" program that could be run on the CS2 or on a PC/Mac, they would have more than enough graphic art geeks out there, making perfectly historic cabs for each loco, even with whatever limitations MFX control would/would not allow. This would actually save Marklin a lot of work, and open the market up to a whole new sector of hobbyists/modelers.
Has anyone heard of Marklin thinking along these lines? Doesn't anyone from Marklin's research team read our fabulous forum..... ???
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Mark,
I agree, it should be easy and would be neat (as well as catering to realists). I think it probably also depends on whether Marklin accounted for it in their software development API, and also processing power/memory availability on a CS2. I don't know much about either of these things, but to me these would be potential problem areas.
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Great, I can skip this one and save some money to get another steamer on my wishlist... |
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I have add to delivery list topic, See 'Marklin new item 2014' at bottom of 2013 new items or see below Now on marklin database. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ MARKLIN 2014 NEW ITEMS. INSIDER 2014>37870< Q2 >46199< Q2 >47321< Q2 |
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Great looking loco! Unlike Juhan I can't skip this one! By the way, what's the reason to add "station announcements" function to the freight loco?
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Originally Posted by: Andrey  Great looking loco! Unlike Juhan I can't skip this one! By the way, what's the reason to add "station announcements" function to the freight loco? I can imagine two reasons for the "station announcements": i) From the photos in Insider news #5 it is possible to see that the prototype engine has electric train heating cable and connector. In other words it would be possible to pull passenger coaches and provide current for heating of the coaches. So the prototype engine may have been used also for passenger services and my guess in that case only for local trains with low travelling speeds. ii) The other more rude guess would be that Märklin just put as many sounds and announcements as the dekoder could hold, without thinking of whether it is prototypical or not. Personally I would "put my money on" i), based on the fact that a generation of electric engines later, the E40/140 which was designed as a freight engine, but has been used a lot in local trains with "Silberlinge".
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Originally Posted by: Western Pacific  Originally Posted by: Andrey  Great looking loco! Unlike Juhan I can't skip this one! By the way, what's the reason to add "station announcements" function to the freight loco? I can imagine two reasons for the "station announcements": i) From the photos in Insider news #5 it is possible to see that the prototype engine has electric train heating cable and connector. In other words it would be possible to pull passenger coaches and provide current for heating of the coaches. So the prototype engine may have been used also for passenger services and my guess in that case only for local trains with low travelling speeds. I expect this is the case. V60 (top speed 60km/hr), BR50 (top speed 80km/hr), etc were used for passenger service at times (not express obviously). Top speed of E93 is 70km/hr, according to Wiki anyway. Various loco shortages over time may have forced E93 into passenger service, even if temporarily. -Brandon |
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This will be my 4th German Kroc. I'm looking forward to all those bells and whistles next year. Peter
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I have 37870 on order with 2 wagons set. |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain  I have 37870 on order with 2 wagons set. Me too |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain  I have 37870 on order with 2 wagons set. Me too |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain  I have 37870 on order with 2 wagons set. I will order the lok. I dont like the sets, I prefer Brawa wagons |
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I just got the pricing from my dealer! It will be over US$500. Why should this model be so expensive??? |
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Originally Posted by: Armando  I just got the pricing from my dealer! It will be over US$500. Why should this model be so expensive??? Full metal Sounds Several function New tool I think the price is fair. |
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Originally Posted by: Armando  I just got the pricing from my dealer! It will be over US$500. Why should this model be so expensive??? Because we are all ready to buy it.
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Originally Posted by: Goofy  Originally Posted by: Armando  I just got the pricing from my dealer! It will be over US$500. Why should this model be so expensive??? Full metal Sounds Several function New tool I think the price is fair. Came with mfx+ Cab control. |
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