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Hello, There is one HR 800 N old steamer for sale and it is one of the first versions that should have an sheet metal cover at left hand side. So manufacturing year is from 1947-1950 depending of the tender type. Koll's 2012 list these versions prices as high as 700 euro, but this is for mint like new one with box and instructions etc. This one is a restoration project without tender, sheet metal cover, original paint but in very used condition, one larger wheel in the middle has been replaced with an 3005 wheel. No original old pick-up shoes anymore. No box at all and without instructions... Technically in good operating condition, old reversing unit with 2X for direction change. Motor ok, reversing unit ok, runs well to both directions, lights ok. What could this one be worth? Is it worth 185 euro in this condition? I would really like to buy this for restoration project. I can get all other parts needed for quite low prices (at least repro parts), but the original metal tender seems to be very expensive. Older full metal and after that with real coal in tender. The last HR 800 N had a plastic tender from G 800, but this loco is too old to have this tender. That HR 800 N that had a plastic tender did not have anymore that sheet metal cover as it had different loco body without it. Thanks in advance for any help regarding is this one worth 185 euro or not? It must cost at least 400-500 euro all together to get this one back to good condition, if I find a tender with reasonable price and painting will be done with help of one loco restaurer...  Janne |
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Hello, An update for this one. I confirmed to buy this project HR 800 N with 165 euro. I dont know yet if this is a good deal or not as I have only seen two pictures of this loco. But anyway I got the moneys for this one for nothing so I can think that this one was "priceless"  .... Cheers, Janne |
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well, good luck with the Project!!!
all the fun you get by finding and waiting for parts, and repairing old locos is priceless! |
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Update again. I bought this HR 800 N and it is actually in better condition that I first thought. But unfortunately also the other middle wheel has to be replaced as it has a crack. So either both of these "smooth" middle wheels or all six wheels will be replaced. Is it "dunkelrot" red color for this older and "hellrot" red color for the newer version?
Wheel set (6-wheels) repro is 60 euro from Ritter. As there was quite much oil "muck" or dirt on the bigger wheels they have stayed in good condition. No contact directly from wheels to rails have saved them.... Metal tender with metal coals for first version "HR 809" (repro) cost 145 euro from Ritter... Cheap like always. Sheet metal cover 14-16 euro. Right type pick-up shoe 20 euro... Cylinders around 25 euro... Right type first version front lamp surroundings 8,50 euro. Then painting, finding a box (maybe repro) and a good copy of instrutions manual.
So it will be at least 450 euro + paint + box and instructions (these must be repro and copy to be able to stay in budjet). This will include the price I paid = 165 euro.
It is nice to see an 66 year old loco (from 1947) in good mechanical condition. I want to own then after restoration this loco to the end of my life. After that my sons will hopefully continue.
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Sounds like a good project.
If you plan to keep it your entire life, why not invest in original parts? In fact, they are usually cheaper than the reproductions in most cases! My prediction is that in 10-20 years, restored HO locos will not have much value at all....the supply of reproductions is only growing and the supply of originals is roughly the same (hard to say....more locos being found and others deteriorate with age).
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Originally Posted by: CCS800KrokHunter3  Sounds like a good project.
If you plan to keep it your entire life, why not invest in original parts? In fact, they are usually cheaper than the reproductions in most cases! My prediction is that in 10-20 years, restored HO locos will not have much value at all....the supply of reproductions is only growing and the supply of originals is roughly the same (hard to say....more locos being found and others deteriorate with age).
Best regards,
Paul Hi Paul, I want to get this loco in as mint condition as possible. If for example original first version tender is available where can I find one? It would be really good thing to use only original parts, but it seems that the parts I have found are very expensive. Or someone wants to make good profit at eBay. For example those cylinders cost at eBay 66 euro and repro from Ritter around 25 euro. How are the repro different from originals? At least I will buy the box and instructions as repro / good copy. As I am not going to sell this loco ever this will not affect the original HR 800 N with original box + instruction value. It is only nice to have these good condition box + instructions for myself. If someone sells older locos with repro box/instructions it should be always mentioned in the advertisement. Many buyers accept this and pay a bit lower price for the loco because of this. It is better to have them than no box and instructions at all. I will first try to find original parts, but I need some help to find the right sources. Janne |
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Hi Janne, Good luck with your project, that will be a great Loco to own.  Ian.
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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi Janne, Good luck with your project, that will be a great Loco to own. Ian. Thanks Ian, I have an 39103 BR 01 again. I sold this same model that I had previously, but got again one with box. etc. like new with only 170 euro. Then I have an 37953 BR 03 and another quite new BR 03 from starter set. But this HR 800 N is something else. It deserves to be restored and I will take very good care of it. I like very much this HR 800 N oldest version. It was one of Märklins Super Models back in 1947. I like it's look more than HR 800 because it has more realistical looking front lights for example. At that time when this Märklin model was manufactured here in Finland "normal people" did not have much money as WW II had just ended in 1945. My father was born in 24th December 1946 and he has told me many stories about that time in Finland. If someone wanted nice clothes or toys these had to be bought from our neighbour country Sweden. They were cleaver enough to not fight in WW II and had everything much better in that time at least. The man who sold me this loco told me that it was bought long time ago from Sweden. I like about things that are mechanical, old and have electric motor. This one is just perfect!  In 1947 there was also other Märklin Super Models that I like very much, but they are very expensive. Like CCS 800 from 1947... When did Märklin locomotives have those red boxes? From which years? Should an 1947-1949 HR 800 N have the grey box instead of the red one? Thanks to all from any info in advance! Janne |
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You're correct, there were no red boxes in 1947 just gray ones. I know for sure in 1949 there were red diamond boxes because I have a red TW 800 NR locomotive with red diamond pattern. Probably then in 47/48 we only see gray boxes and no red ones.
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So where's the pix?, no boasting without pix - them's the rulez  |
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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz So where's the pix?, no boasting without pix - them's the rulez How can I post pictures here? I have only posted pictures under my profile as then I can browse the pictures from my computer. I dont have any web program or server where from I could link the pictures over here.. Cheers, Janne |
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Hi Janne, Upload your pics to Imageshack, and then copy the link that they provide into your post with the img tags which you select from the top taskbar in your post. There's a whole thread giving advice on posting pics here: https://www.marklin-user...um--a-little-how-to.aspx |
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Hello, My first try to post two pictures with ImageShack: HR 800 N.1 project 1HR 800 N.1 project 2As You all can see the locomotive body is a bit broken from the right side rear corner. I think that I can kive with this small error . I calculated that it will take at least 350 euro to order a repro full metal "HR 809" tender with metal coals (145 euro) and other parts needed. All repro wheels and front and right "bogie" included with light red older color in the wheels. Then new cylinder group, original front bumper plate, front light surrounding "wires", either repro tongue slider or big hole original ski-slider. Repro brush cover that is unfortunately cast part and not sheet metal like the original has been. Then new brushes for motor and brush springs etc. small parts needed. My friend can do the paint work as he has restored many "800" and other older Märklin steamers and have that right "black that is not black color". The light red is a bit more difficult one as he has normally painted the red parts with that "dark red" color that was used in a bit newer steamers. Here is a link to Ritter for HR 800 N: http://www.ritter-restau...il=;usrPwd=;katKey=1.3.4Yes! Those pictures work! Sorry for these two very bad pictures. I will take some more myself. These are the two pictures that the seller has taken from it. Cheers, Janne |
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Hi Janne, Thanks for the photo's. Ian.
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I do like those loco's! thanks for the photo's |
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Thanks! I took yesterday 8 pictures of this and will post the links to ImageShack here later today. So then it is easy to see this locomotive when it still is as it came to me.
PS. Is the paint work of those light red areas in loco body (the long red stripe per side) made with hand painting? If yes then it is like pinstriping that they use in hot rod cars. We are going this weekend with my family to Finnish Hot Rod Association's American Car Show 2013 and there should be many of these pinstriping wizards that I can ask if they are interested doing this little light red paint work to loco body and maybe also for wheel gear light red small areas?
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Hi Janne, Enjoy the Car Show. Ian.
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Joined: 23/03/2012(UTC) Posts: 2,554 Location: Finland
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Hi Ian, I surely will have fun there. Your car should be there also as it is an truly beauty and motor is like beast . Here is those eight pictures that I promised to send here. As You all can see the right cylinder is now broken. It was ok when I bought it but the metal was so fragile that it snap broken. I dont think that it will hold if I only glue it together with metal glue: HR 800 N.1 right hand sideHR 800 N.1 front right cornerHR 800 N.1 frontHR 800 N.1 left hand sideHR 800 N.1 left rear cornerHR 800 N.1 right rear cornerHR 800 N.1 top sideHR 800 N.1 under sideOne thing that I want to ask is can someone proof that also this HR 800 N.1 version had originally that two slider "tongue slider" and not the "ski slider" with big hole? All the HR 800 N.1 versions that I have found with pictures have that ski slider with big hole and not tongue sliders. But the first version was produced three years 1947-1949 and 1950 model was the same locomotive version, but only different tender. Here is some German text about the sliders/pick-up shoes (Schleifer 1940 and Schleifer 1947). I have no idea what they are looking like. Google dont help me also. Lokshow HR 800 N description Cheers, Janne |
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Hi Janne, Thanks for the photo's, alot of work to be done....but well worth it. Ian.
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Hello, Here is some more photos from the locomotive without body to show the technic: HR 800 N.1 without body HR 800 N.1 without body 2HR 800 N.1 without body 3In the last picture there is an soldering "plate" under the screw between two soldered red wires. It looks like that there should be an wire, but which one? In two earlier pictures there is an yellow wire that looks maybe to be in wrong position??? Should it be in that place where there is not now any wire? Loco works technically ok, but now when that right hand side cylinder broked down it can not be run of course. It looks like both cylinders have been glued to the cylinder frame. if they are I can maybe glue it back together again. Could someone confirm the yellow wire right location and/or if those cylinders are originally glued to the cylinder frame or is it an one piece cast part? I won an auction from a much better condition HR 800 N.1 original paint body with sheet metal brush cover. This way by using this other same version body I dont have to get the current loco body painted at all or if I (or actually my friend) will paint it later the loco is not "sacrified" by re-painting it. Or we can try to make it as close to same as possible than the other original body. Let's see if I will find more original parts or not for this one. I think that all the wheels and tender at least will be best to buy as good repro parts. I can live with them, but it was really nice to find an better condition near mint HR 800 N.1 body . Regards, Janne Edited by user 30 March 2013 07:25:10(UTC)
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Very good, Janne, congrats on winning the second model and now you can make a very nice, complete original one.
I have a bag full of thin wheels that I believe would work for the HR 800.....about half are repro and half are original. I'll take some photos and see if they would work for you.
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Originally Posted by: CCS800KrokHunter3 Very good, Janne, congrats on winning the second model and now you can make a very nice, complete original one.
I have a bag full of thin wheels that I believe would work for the HR 800.....about half are repro and half are original. I'll take some photos and see if they would work for you.
Best regards,
Paul Thanks Paul, I would definitely like to have original light red wheels if they are in good condition (paint, not worn and centre bore is tight for axle). If I could get the complete original wheel set from You then only that full metal "HR 809" original tender is needed. And that cylinder glued if possible and re-paint them. I really like this old steamer as it feels like going back to the end of 1940's. At that time this model was really high detailed model. I also like the SK 800 N black streamline model from the same time. CCS 800 (1947-1949) is my most wanted loco, but the prices have gone way too high for me. All these models were the "stars" of Märklin catalogs 1947-1950 (Märklin Super Model). I also like the MS 800 which also were a Super Model with much more details than the models before that. Now I also get that original sheet metal brush cover that looks different than the repro cast part. It is good to have original paint. If there is some light wear somewhere in the body I will let it be like it is. Much better to not re-paint it and let it be original. Now also that right hand side corner that has damage in the current body does not matter. Regards, Janne |
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Hello Janne, Here are the parts that I found....turns out I only have 5 original wheels total and the rest seem to be replica....looks like the replicas aren't painted red on the back but the originals are...also pulled out a flat tongue slider (I think you need one of those?) and a little surprise at the end....   and your next project???  Paul |
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Hello Paul, Thanks for pictures! I am interested in these parts. Also that MS 800 project could be interesting, but not cheap I think? I have factory new original pantos for that one already so it will be a very easy and cheap project! Just kidding... But seriously, what MS 800 version it is and is motor and reversing unit ok? Wheels and axles are missing. What else? Can You send me PM about the pricing of these "jewels"? Today I dismantled my HR 800 N (front bogie/wheels, rear bogie/wheels, cylinder block and all the rods etc.). Then I could run it as the broken cylinder did not avoid running anymore. It runs perfectly after some adjustment of reverse unit spring tension. Before adjustment it could not take full voltage without self activating the reverse unit and stopped running. I adjusted the spring tension a bit higher and now it goes at full speed to both directions. It has a very strong and good condition motor. When direction is changed with transformer it "jumps" forward or backwards depending of the direction. That 2X direction change works as it should otherwise. With manual direction change lever it is of course possible to change driving direction without "jumps", but with transformer it is not. I could adjust it to "jump" less, but not to stop it doing that completely. As I wrote before, there is an "soldering plate" without an wire were there has been one before in the reverse unit. I am sure this causes these "jumps". Could You help me what wire is missing or in wrong place? Regards, Janne |
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Originally Posted by: Janne75 Hi Ian, I surely will have fun there. Your car should be there also as it is an truly beauty and motor is like beast . Here is those eight pictures that I promised to send here. As You all can see the right cylinder is now broken. It was ok when I bought it but the metal was so fragile that it snap broken. I dont think that it will hold if I only glue it together with metal glue: (snip) Cheers, Janne Hi Janne, This is an interesting thread but sadly I'm not going to enjoy looking at your pictures because of the utter CRAP that 'imageshack' bombard me with whenever I got to their site. This of course is not your fault in any way, but is typical of these 'free' hosting sites and I hate it with a vengeance - really harks back to the earlier dark dirty days of the internet when if you were unlucky to find yourself at the wrong site, windows and screens would start opening spontaneously faster than you could close them. Adverts for Gambling, Gaming, Porn, you name it. Below is an example of what popped up today when I opened the first of your image links, the same thing happened the other day with one of the images from your first posing. It's not just the new window that opens but it has an aggravating audio with it as well which does not warn you it's starting and stomps all over any audio already playing. Then I have to muck around finding the offending window to close and stop it (not always easy when you have multiple programs or tabs on the go). Yeah of course I could muck around adding various blockers to prevent ads etc, but usually I don't have to worry about it and I like to keep my browser free of as many add-ons and extensions as possible. For what it's worth, the same thing happened on the imagecrap site with Google Chrome (my preferred browser) and with Internet Explorer. The problem here is the imageshack site design. Please don't think I'm trying to rain on your parade, and if you'd like some help on how to post your images directly into your messages (as Paul has done) please sing out, we love to help and it's much easier to follow the thread with the images 'in-line' than having to go externally. It can be a bit tricky for our newer members to get their heads around and I'd love to see your photos, just not via the imagecrap site. One good alternative if you really do wish to have your albums available and independent of this forum is the Google option - picasaweb - image display is much tidier But please keep up with the updates on your article. I had the joy of refurbishing my HR800 not too long ago and really enjoyed the work and the result, but I chose not to attempt a repaint because it was not really needed hence it's a 'refurb', not a 'restore'. Kind regards Steve cookee_nz attached the following image(s): |
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Originally Posted by: CCS800KrokHunter3 Hello Janne,
Here are the parts that I found....turns out I only have 5 original wheels total and the rest seem to be replica....looks like the replicas aren't painted red on the back but the originals are...also pulled out a flat tongue slider (I think you need one of those?) and a little surprise at the end....
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Paul Hi Paul, all That's a good assortment of parts to work through. It's a real pity Marklin did not mark many of their similar parts with some form of irrefutible code to aid in identifying two very similar items from each other. Can you imagine in their parts warehouse having several bins/drawers etc of near-identical parts and someone mixes them up? Would be a nightmare to identify each one. I have a small container of wheels of all sorts acquired over the years and I would hate the thought that I was sitting on the one part that would make someone else's project complete, but for lack of knowing what I have!! Sadly all I can see them being good for is a junk pile of wheels on a layout unless I happened to need one and was lucky to find it among what I have, but would it be an exact match, or just a very close one? Sadly the only way I could identify any would be through very exact micrometer measurements, and descriptions down to the number of spokes, pitch of the gears etc etc. And who's got the time to do that? It just occured to me that with the recent flurry of activity in the world of 3D printers, how about an affordable 3D scanner? - ie a device that would take any object (with reason of course), such as a driving wheel, scan it from all angles and present you with the same 3D drawing with all dimensions displayed and in a universal format allowing for export to an online database where it could be compared against other objects. Of course you would need to have a verified original already stored against which to compare but think of the possibilities!! Heck, I'm having enough trouble keeping up with scanning printed material let alone getting into identification of individual parts. Cheers Steve Edited by user 01 April 2013 03:45:37(UTC)
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Hi Janne,
To tell the true, I also don't like to click to see a photo.
Why don't you use a photo host to show your photos directly without clicking, like so many forum members do.
For example the post above from Paul / CCS800KrokHunter3.
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Originally Posted by: kweekalot Hi Janne,
To tell the true, I also don't like to click to see a photo.
Why don't you use a photo host to show your photos directly without clicking, like so many forum members do.
For example the post above from Paul / CCS800KrokHunter3.
Marco Hello Marco and Steve, Yes I know that it would be much nicer to look directly for pictures and not clicking links to Imageshack. I use at home only iPhone 4 with 3G that is not so fast internet connection. It is easier for me to not load every time in my thread all the pictures I have posted per page as I have noticed that in Mehmet's "utkan" threads with a lot of pictures there becomes trouble with my phones internet speed. Otherwise good point! But if someone has problems with something that visiting Imageshack's site might do, then it might be maybe a good time to upgrade either add ons for browser or getting some free programs to avoid those problems and/or upgrading the anti-virus software or firewall? Please remember also that I am a total newbie in uploading pictures to Internet.. I will do my best to learn and buy soon a fast wireless network to my house! I would like to run my digital locos with my iPhone 4 or iPad wireless. I have the Apple applications but not the wireless network . Cheers, Janne |
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An update again. Those repro wheels that is in Paul's pictures looks to be different ones than the repro wheels from Ritter or TT-internetshop. Paul's repros has 20 spokes and original have 18 spokes. Ritter and TT-internetshop repros have 18 spokes in their pictures. My HR 800 N have four good condition drive wheels with nice grey color. These are not nickel plated as they are not shiny. What I really need is the two middle drive wheels without the flanges (grey and not nickel plated with 18 spokes). When replacing only these two (other one is wrong 3005 and other is cracked from two places). Then my drive wheels would look more like evenly weared. As I will only replace the loco body to a better condition original paint one and not re-paint it this would be good to get it in good original condition. Same thing with side rods "linkage" or what ever they are called. No re-paint for these. Only parts that need really be re-painted are the red parts in the loco frame under cabin. Factory new original front bumper plate and lamp surrounding "wires" will be used if the other original loco body dont have good ones. I will buy repro new front and rear bogie with wheels. As the loco has fallen down earlier and body right hand side rear corner broken it has also taken the "hit" with rear bogie. I looked closer to it and it has cracked from over ten places...  Maybe same thing with the middle drive wheels as other had been changed to wrong 3005 and other had two cracks...and the cylinder block or base has two cracks. Thank god the frame is ok. So if I want to replace some day all these six drive wheels then I will buy a TTN repro wheel set. Paul, I need only now those two middle drive wheels without flanges if they are grey colored and both are 18 spoke ones. One is at least 18 spoke version as I can see in your pictures. I also want to buy that original flat tongue slider. I am very interested in your MS 800. But I must buy it later. It looks like that it will cost around 250-300 euro to have the missing parts if motor and reverse unit are ok. Regards, Janne |
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