Guys,

What is your opinion of the new NSB elloks:

Roco 78528 and Marklin 37754

http://www.eurorailhobbi...078528&stock=R-78528

http://www.eurorailhobbi...nd=37754&stock=37754

The Roco is approx 90USD less than the Marklin.

Would you prefer one over the other? If so, why? I own loks from both manufacturers.

I would have thought its down to if you like colletcing Marklin or colletcing a specific theme. Ie NS,SNCF NSB etc its all down to choice. I would imagine that the price of the Marklin locomotive is more perhaps because it is metal or made in Germany. In one thread theres some issues with quality on Swedish models. But Marklin is not the only make who mess up now and again. I however have been looking into buying a Roco item and have changed my mind as the Roco locos can be in some cases more expensive than Marklin. I have just got a new Marklin locomotive and its first class with extensive sound functions and is perfect and ready to run. I would like to point out that not everyone has nimble fingers and do not want to stick on a bag of bits when they receive there brand new locomotive, hence also why the new NSB Lok is more, you have to pay people to make your models One more thing a Friend had a steam locomotive made by Roco. Yes it was a nice model with lots of detail.But we could not stick it back in the box or take it out, without braking bits off. One more reason why alot of people hence a Marklin user forum buy Marklin, it is perhaps made for those of us who like to look at our engines and touch!
This is not supposed to be a shoutey man message, i just cannot see why people cant see the difference between the two makes. They are both good but perhaps have different buyers for these reasons. cheers Dan

I would prefer Maerklin because of its full metal body.
The Roco body is plastic,right?

Hi NS1200,

I believe so.

What´s difference?
Roco has inside body weight made of metal.
The plastic house is just to clip down on the metal body.
So Rocos new double swedish Dm and NSB has very high weight and can pull lot of wagons.
Marklin and Rocos new scandinavian double locomotiv has good quality.
So why not to get both of it...?

Is this still a forum for Maerklin addicts or have we changed to Roco?
Am i still on the correct forum?
Did i miss something?

I own locos by the two manufacturers too however since I am a Marklin collector -and unless they screw up badly with the finished loco- I would want the Marklin regardless of whether is plastic or metal. The Rocos I have were either not produced by Marklin at the time I've purchased them or still aren't.

This happens to be one of the models on my watch list together with the 3 piece swedish loco. Once they are out and I see the quality I hope to decide for one of them. I would like both but that's unlikely to happen.

Perhaps they should have a roco 3 rail forum

Here is an unusual model version made in NZ by a German guy !; http://www.trademe.co.nz...isting.aspx?id=563564183

Did they ever actually run like that ?? or is he being tricky and expecting to extort the most for his 3 x 3170's ??

John you've confused the issue here, and me They're talking about the two unit versions, not the DM3

We need to read threads and maybe check the odd link, before poking the keyboard with our fat fingers

Marklin version 37754

Prototype: Norwegian State Railways (NSB) class El 12 heavy ore locomotive as a 2-part side rod electric locomotive. Used on the ore line Lulea - Kiruna - Narvik. Road numbers 2113+2114. Olive green basic paint scheme, large headlights, engineer's cab doors in the old arrangement, large snow plows (Norrland plows) and spoked wheels. The locomotive looks as it did around 1970.
Model: The locomotive has an mfx digital decoder and extensive sound functions. It also has 2 controlled, high-efficiency propulsion systems with flywheels, 1 motor in each locomotive unit with an engineer's cab. All 4 driving axles powered in each locomotive unit with an engineer's cab. Traction tires. The dual headlights and a red marker light change over with the direction of travel, will work in conventional operation, and can be controlled digitally. An additional third wide beam headlight above on the locomotives can be controlled digitally. The engine room lighting as well as the cab lighting in Engineer's Cabs 1 and 2 can each be controlled separately in digital operation. An additional marker light can be controlled digitally. The lighting is maintenance-free warm white and red LEDs. This locomotive has highly detailed metal construction with many separately applied details. The roof equipment is detailed with large vent attachments and compressed air tanks. Both locomotive units are permanently coupled together. There is a close coupling mechanism between the locomotive units. Marker signs for the front end of the locomotive are included separately. Length over the buffers 29.0 cm / 11-7/16".

Control
Unit Sx Mobile
Station DCC Mobile
Station 2 Central
Station
Headlight(s) · · · ·
Light Function · · · ·
Electric locomotive op. sounds · · · ·
Horn · · · ·
Direct control · · · ·
Light Function1 · · ·
Engineer’s cab lighting · · ·
Whistle for switching maneuver · · ·
Engineer’s cab lighting · · ·
Light Function 2 · ·
Sound of squealing brakes off · ·
Sound of Couplers Engaging · ·
Blower motors · ·
Brake Compressor · ·
Pantograph Sounds · ·

Highlights:

Completely new tooling for the two-part El 12 ore locomotive.
Highly detailed metal construction.
mfx decoder with extensive sound and light functions.
2 high-efficiency propulsion systems with flywheels, 1 motor in each locomotive unit with an engineer's cab.
Engineer's cab lighting and engine room lighting can be controlled separately in digital operation.
Item numbers 46370 and 46371 ore car sets to go with this locomotive, cars with different car numbers, for a prototypically long ore train.

What about 1 motor was mentioned earlier, I couldn't find any data saying 1 motor only.

John

Rocos Dm and EL12 arrives with dual motor.

The Marklin version is going to weigh about 1400 a 1500 gram.

Qua price the difference in OVP is about 80 euro.

In some Swedish forums member who has Rocos Da,Dm and Dm3 has problem with impeller for 3 rail.
It derailment in the turnouts.
But they didn´t said what kind of turnouts.
I think it´s short turnouts.

For those who are interested to buy Marklin EL12 i suggest wait until we see how it looks like.
Maybe Marklin do same mistake like Swedish Dm3.

A German review of the loco is on Youtube:


I hope the video helps even if you do not understand the comments.