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danmarklinman		#1 Posted : 01 February 2013 16:39:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,378		Hi, i have a layout which is small and is a basic oval with a siding and a passing loop. I would like to turn this in to one end of a dog bone ,with one of the curves on one corner being taken apart and made into the narrow part of a dog bone .So it effectively becomes double track before splitting again into the other end of the dog bone. can anyone help me by giving me a simple track diagram with parts to make such a thing in C and K track. many thanks Dan.
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Yumgui		#2 Posted : 01 February 2013 23:12:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/03/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,660 Location: Paris, France		Hi Dan, Not much to go on in your description ... it's very general ^^ Some further information would help the ppl here to help you (I will have trouble as I use only M track and VB for HO AC 3 rail )... ... like a photo or a sketch or something ? And if you find an answer first, plz let us know. Thanks, Yum
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clapcott		#3 Posted : 02 February 2013 23:27:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,433 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Hi, i have a layout which is small and is a basic oval with a siding and a passing loop. I would like to turn this in to one end of a dog bone ,with one of the curves on one corner being taken apart and made into the narrow part of a dog bone .So it effectively becomes double track before splitting again into the other end of the dog bone. can anyone help me by giving me a simple track diagram with parts to make such a thing in C and K track. many thanks Dan. Hi Dan ? Is the existing oval track C or K ? are the existing turnouts for the loop standard (Straight/Curve) or double curve ? what is the max/optimal area the dogbone end can take up (also indicate if this might be modular - i.e. two or more transportable sections) ? do you want a symmetrical or asymmetrical return loop ? What double line spacing are you connecting into (Marklin standards are 77.5 and 64.3 for C-Track) ? Do you want to reuse the turnouts for sidings within the centre of the loop ? Do you want to retain a passing loop
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danmarklinman		#4 Posted : 03 February 2013 18:19:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,378		Originally Posted by: clapcott Originally Posted by: danmarklinman Hi, i have a layout which is small and is a basic oval with a siding and a passing loop. I would like to turn this in to one end of a dog bone ,with one of the curves on one corner being taken apart and made into the narrow part of a dog bone .So it effectively becomes double track before splitting again into the other end of the dog bone. can anyone help me by giving me a simple track diagram with parts to make such a thing in C and K track. many thanks Dan. Hi Dan ? Is the existing oval track C or K ? are the existing turnouts for the loop standard (Straight/Curve) or double curve ? what is the max/optimal area the dogbone end can take up (also indicate if this might be modular - i.e. two or more transportable sections) ? do you want a symmetrical or asymmetrical return loop ? What double line spacing are you connecting into (Marklin standards are 77.5 and 64.3 for C-Track) ? Do you want to reuse the turnouts for sidings within the centre of the loop ? Do you want to retain a passing loop Hi sorry now i was a bit vague in my question. All i need is the parts needed for a C track return loop which is as small as possible. There is a double track line sticking out the back of my layout on the left hand side,or there will be The double track will need to have a small radius turnouts to creat a cross over and therefore a return loop! cheers Dan
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LeoArietis		#5 Posted : 03 February 2013 20:19:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 07/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 153 Location: Lindome, Sweden		Here are two tries. I usually use the second one, length of the track is +2.6 m (8½ feet) so you can fit a good sized train fitting a medium sized layout and the length of the loop including the turnout/point is approx 1.15 m.
		Current layout: http://www.svensktmjforu.../index.php?topic=10990.0 The former project: http://www.svensktmjforu...forum_posts.asp?TID=1097 With Pictures and trackplans, but in Swedish Transitation-curves in C-track: https://www.marklin-user...9-on-75-cm.aspx#post9281
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LeoArietis		#6 Posted : 03 February 2013 20:26:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 07/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 153 Location: Lindome, Sweden		In the right one, numbers are : (24611 + 24172 + 24172 + 24188 + 24224 + 8*24130 + 24071 + 2*24130
		Current layout: http://www.svensktmjforu.../index.php?topic=10990.0 The former project: http://www.svensktmjforu...forum_posts.asp?TID=1097 With Pictures and trackplans, but in Swedish Transitation-curves in C-track: https://www.marklin-user...9-on-75-cm.aspx#post9281
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LeoArietis		#7 Posted : 03 February 2013 20:34:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 07/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 153 Location: Lindome, Sweden		It may look like it's not a perfect fit, but the difference is so small you, nor the track or trains will notice!
		Current layout: http://www.svensktmjforu.../index.php?topic=10990.0 The former project: http://www.svensktmjforu...forum_posts.asp?TID=1097 With Pictures and trackplans, but in Swedish Transitation-curves in C-track: https://www.marklin-user...9-on-75-cm.aspx#post9281
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H0		#8 Posted : 03 February 2013 20:50:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,265 Location: DE-NW		Hi! Originally Posted by: LeoArietis Here are two tries. I cannot see your images. And I bet many others cannot either. Never use the IMG tag for album images, the ALBUMIMG tag has to be used! Or simply attach the images to the post.
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danmarklinman		#9 Posted : 03 February 2013 21:13:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,378		Originally Posted by: LeoArietis Here are two tries. I usually use the second one, length of the track is +2.6 m (8½ feet) so you can fit a good sized train fitting a medium sized layout and the length of the loop including the turnout/point is approx 1.15 m. Cheers for that, thats great thanks. What i would also like is not to join them up but return to a double track. tar Dan
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H0		#11 Posted : 03 February 2013 21:29:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,265 Location: DE-NW		Hi! Here are two simple reversing loops (one only 24130, the other uses three 24230). The turnouts are only used to get the correct distance. If spaces allow, I'd avoid double curves without straight tracks in between. H0 attached the following image(s):
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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H0		#12 Posted : 03 February 2013 21:42:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,265 Location: DE-NW		Other reversing loops (R2 on the left, R1 on the right). H0 attached the following image(s):
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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H0		#13 Posted : 03 February 2013 21:57:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,265 Location: DE-NW		And two more loops (R2 on the left, R1 on the right) that really make it look like a dog bone. H0 attached the following image(s):
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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danmarklinman		#14 Posted : 03 February 2013 22:02:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,378		Originally Posted by: H0 Hi! Here are two simple reversing loops (one only 24130, the other uses three 24230). The turnouts are only used to get the correct distance. If spaces allow, I'd avoid double curves without straight tracks in between. Hi thats spot on cheers, thankyou,part two of my layout coming up
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