The previous model was a PBKA as well. The PBA has the older Reseau motor cars.

On the US Marklin database the new CFL 43813 Commuter Car Set have a note at the bottom:

The class 3600 motive power to go with these cars can be found under item number 37338 in the Märklin H0 assortment.

Anyone know about this lok 37338?

Summer, Export, Fall release?

Are any of "those in the know", able to shed some insight on Maerklins plans to add the 2013NH database to their Apple app for iPhone etc.

Noting of course that the 2012/13 catalogue has yet to appear, so confidence is low

The only difference that is mentioned in the descriptions is that the original model was as appeared around 2010 and the new model is for 2012.
I have not noticed any visible differences other than the coaches are reversed in the photos.

Has there been any changes in the consist (1st vs 2nd class, restaurant or bar) that might account for such a rapid rerelease?
I was somehow hoping that we would see the SBB POS train, but not yet. As Maerklin had to license the model from SNCF, this might never happen.

UPDATE: I was able to gather from one of the German forums that the original 37791 Thalys was a model of trainset 4331. The poster goes on to state that Train 4331, along with 4332, belong to the NS (Holland). The 2013 37794 Set states "Beheimatet in Brussel" which would seem to indicate that this model will be a SNCB trainset. Other sites seem to suggest that 4331 is based in Amsterdam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNCF_TGV_Thalys_PBKA
http://saschas-eisenbahn...&id=21&Itemid=28

Regards

Mike C

Hi!
I don't have statistical data but it feels as if Märklin is now where Roco was a few years ago: when new items are announced, you can lean back and wait until you can get them 40+ % below RRP.
Many have said they won't pre-order this year and this will make calculations more difficult for Märklin.

Roco is at a different stage: they cancelled several models as they didn't get enough pre-orders. Also a bad buyer's experience: you pre-order something and nine months later they tell you it won't be made. Märklin might reach that stage in a few years.

Increasing the volume of sales by any means (to find a buyer for the company) seems to be high priority for Märklin now. Making a few too many may be a good tactic for that purpose.
I'm a victim of that tactic (spent to much money on clearance sales - one more reason not to place pre-orders this year).
The money they get for reduced clearance sales items cannot be spent for regular price items any more - a good short-term tactic to impress Simba/Dickie and other potential buyers or to keep the banks quiet and calm, but probably a bad long-term strategy.

Like so much else, it's stiff competition, so look at what NMJ do with their prices on NSB El13 when now Hobby trade start delivering this week one year delayed.

New price 2,295kr and now 1,595kr, and if you buy tree you will get it for 1,295kr each

Should be interesting to see what happened with Dm3 and Dm/El12 prices when both M and Roco is doing the same stuff

Let’s hope that someone deiced on LKAB to buy a batch like a Christmas gift to theirs 4000 employed

I don't see how this is any different from any other product on the Market. I paid 80 pounds for a jacket last year, and then saw it on sale for 40 pounds. It's annoying, but it happens all the time. If I'd waited for the sales I might not have found it in my size or in my prefered colour.

Reducing the price of an item to clear stock is standard practice for any business, and Marklin is bound to do the same.

The opposite is too often the case, where some Marklin products have been on the shop shelves for years at a price that will never sell, but the dealer does not want to cut his price. Recently I saw a Delta locomotive in a shop in Luxembourg which was more expensive than an almost identical newer item in the same shop. That dealer should have lowered the price of the delta loco years ago and cut his losses.

I also think it´s a typo. The train is listed to cost 999,95 Euros. Although the 26490 costs about 930 Euros. So if you replace one streamliner car with one motorized PA it sounds plausible considering the price. There are more members confused at Stummi. I think I´ll send an email to Märklin.

Hi Ray
interesting what you say about old stock at old prices, many retailers have not worked out it cost about 8% to hold stock each year and the other issue is with marklin and other makers moving more into digital and multimedia movement and sounds etc their old stock becomes less attractive, and we are finding many don't want to buy old analogue unless they can factor in adding a decoder on to it, because once they have seen and older loco changed over to digital they don't want to go back.
as to those waiting for the clearance sales it has one problem, the popular and sort after models generally don't end up on the clearance table, and the whole issue results in the devalueing of everyone's collections
we are finding marklin a far leaner company to operate with a lot more younger staff on board and their response is very good and with their 6 million investment 3 years ago in new metal and plastic plant for cash they are very down in their overheads compared to what they used to be and the detail is getting better every delivery
regards
Bryan old toot

Right, the clearance sales damage the collector value of the models that are dumped into the market - and devalues other models, too.

In 2011/2012, waiting for the clearance sales would have paid in the end. Only the Bluebird should have been pre-ordered. Those bargain hunters who did not pre-order any item had to pay more than the RRP for the Bluebird - but the discounts for BR 042, BR VT 75.9 and other dumped models would easily compensate that loss.

Hi David

Glad to hear i am not the only one that wonder about this single motor description. I will very very disappointed with Marklin, if this set is indeed fitted with only one motor. As you say this set does cost 1000 Euros!

Please share the answer from Marklin.

Regards
Marius

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Maybe they are beginning to dissolve their relationsship with these dealers? I doubt it, but who knows? I don't think the problem with the MRR-business today is competition between the producers. Rather that it is too small overall.
It just has too many hungry mouths to feed.

• The MRR-business is worth x million euros and these x millions comes from us and has to feed everyone in the business.

• The brick and mortar dealers have to pay rents and wages.

• More internet-dealers will lead to fewer brick and mortar dealers.

• Fewer brick and mortar dealers means less money to rents and wages.

• Less rents and wages means more money to Märklin (and lower prices, which means we can buy more from Märklin).

• More money to Märklin means that there will be a Märklin also in the future.

Back to topic! I think the news for 2013 are great!


/Torbjörn

You cannot count on it. But "Tit for tat" is the most effective tactic in games theory. Saying "tomorrows weather will be like today" is right for 70 % of days (around here).

One can count on items showing up on eBay with starting prices of 1 Euro. Then the gamble starts. Bid up to the limit you want to pay.

Happy New Year Guys, glad to see the Forum is thriving as usual, and I hope we all got many goodies from Santa.

Thanks to everyone for posting the new of new items as it happens, it is your devotion is what keeps us lazy slobs (me) informed, and I am very grateful, so thanks to you all.

I am very excited about the following new items;

BR80 - a steam shunter, with sound and telex couplings - SUPER

BR24 - with sound - SUPER

Gt 2x4/4 - nice looking model with mfx and sound - SUPER

BR58 - Nice model - SUPER

BR03 - new model very welcome - SUPER

New Rheinpfeil Set - Very nice will go alongside the other one - SUPER

Nacco Tank Cars - One can never have enough tank cars - SUPER

New Crocs - awesome - SUPER

CFL Nahverkehrswagen set - is welcome - SUPER

New Signals - only downside is they will be like all the new signals very expensive..............

I think this offering is more positive than last year, although a lot of the new locos are merely sound upgrades, there are some genuinely new items and advances in signals and mfx technology (whether you like it or not) it shows that Marklin is alive and investing in new models for the future so this has to be good news. I just wish they could vary the rolling stock as much as they do the locos, as this makes consists more exciting but there we have it.

It is going to be another expensive year.............................................where did the FD disappear to........................

All the best

Glenn

Story goes that the weathered Big Boy 37995 has cabin number 4014.
No pictures seen of the M model as yet.
Internet sources say that the 4014 is one of the few Big Boys in such a state that restoration is still worthwile.

Well, new models are a neverending story!

37555


"Beskrivning:
Dm3 EXKLUSIV SPECIALMODELL, driftnummer 976, 977 och 978 från 1960.
Den första äkta Dm3:an med alla numrena i följd som levereras till SJ, år 1960.

Specialmodell i samband med vårt 20 års jubileum.
Modellen tillverkas exklusivt för vårt företag i 500 exexmpplar
i en numrerad serie från Nr. 002 till 500, ditt namn kommer att skrivas
exklusivt på certifikatet som medföljer modellen.
En folder om lokets historia medföljer även.

Detta lok finns på vårt Järnvägsmuseum i Luleå, Karlsvik.

OBS!! OBS!! OBS!! Vid order, ange För- och Efternamn som ni vill ha på certicikatet
i meddelanderutan innan ni skickar er order.


Model: The locomotive has an mfx digital decoder and extensive sound functions. It also has 2 controlled, high-efficiency propulsion systems with flywheels, 1 motor in each locomotive unit with an engineer's cab. All 4 driving axles powered in each locomotive unit with an engineer's cab. Traction tires. The dual headlights and a red marker light change over with the direction of travel, will work in conventional operation, and can be controlled digitally. An additional third wide beam headlight above on the locomotives can be controlled digitally. The engine room lighting as well as the cab lighting in Engineer's Cabs 1 and 2 can each be controlled separately in digital operation. An additional marker light can be controlled digitally. The lighting is maintenance-free warm white and red LEDs. This locomotive has highly detailed metal construction with many separately applied details. The roof equipment is detailed with large vent attachments and compressed air tanks. All 3 locomotive units are permanently coupled together. There is a close coupling mechanism between the locomotive units. Marker signs for the front end of the locomotive are included separately. Length over the buffers 40.7 cm / 16".

Highlights:
•Completely new tooling for the three-part Dm3 ore locomotive.
•Highly detailed metal construction.
•mfx decoder with extensive sound and light functions.
•2 high-efficiency propulsion systems with flywheels, 1 motor in each locomotive unit with an engineer's cab.
•Engineer's cab lighting and engine room lighting can be controlled separately in digital operation.
•Item numbers 46370 and 46371 ore car sets to go with this locomotive, cars with different car numbers, for a prototypically long ore train."

Translation of the swedish text :

Description:
Exclusive special model, with running numbers 376, 977 and 978 from 1960.
The first real Dm3 with all the numbers in a row that were delievered to SJ, year 1960.

Special model as we celebrate 20 years.
The model is made exclusively for our company limited to 500 i a numbered series from nr. 002 to 500. Your name will be written on the certificate that goes along with the model.
A folder about the history of the loco is also included.

The real loco is placed in our railway museum in Luleå, Karlsvik.

OBS!! OBS!! OBS!! By ordering, please write you first and surname you want on your certificate in the messagebox before you send your order."

Of course I ordered it.

Well, I'll see if I get a number below five or even below ten. I placed my order at 00h04 CET on January 17th.

That must mean there's something for me?

Sorry, made a double posting...

Thank you for your efforts and feedback David. Now we wait for delivery to start.

Regards

When is delivering time for 26495?

Delivery dates - Not on Marklin database.

37995 Big Boy - Q2
29740 Mega starter set - Q3
39024 BR18.3 - Q2
41929 - Q4

Has anyone got a idea why 39024 DRG IVH is missing along with 41929 Rheingold?