No. I'm surprised it comes so late as they include the new MS2 in Trix starter sets since it was released.

The cab control requires mfx+.

I hope mfx can be disabled with the Trix locos. I wonder if they include DCC in Märklin locos.
We'll find out when items have been shipped and reviews have been written ...

The Trix new items brochure tells that 9 functions can be controlled with mfx using a Mobile Station 60653 (16 with a Central Station). It's sure they need a better proof reader.

Hi,

I was informed by a Marklin dealer that they use the same decoders in the new Trix & Marklin models. This makes sense for production purposes. Remember also the new Marklin decoders are multi protocol, (MM)mfx/fx & DCC. With CV 50 you can turn off Analog AC & DC, MM-fx & mfx, but DCC is always on (cannot be disabled)
Easy to convert a new Trix loco for MM 3 rail, turn on MM-fx & mfx protocol, fit a slider and a bit of rewiring of the power pick up from the wheel power contacts. But conversion from AC toTrix DCC not so simple because of the AC wheel sets. ??

New info:
I have just compared parts list for the BR 94, Marklin 37165 & Trix 22160
The decoder part No is listed for 37165 but not for the 22160, but would suggest same decoder for both.
Now this is interesting. There is a power pick up for both sides of the wheels on both frames, the only difference with the marklin model is the addition of the slider. This suggests to me they are the same production model both with isolated wheels for DC/DCC pick up, and they just add a slider for the Marklin model, and change the wiring of the pick up.
This is most practical for production line purposes. Basically thats what ESU do with their Engineering Edition Locomotives. If you want to run the AC version DC, you just remove the slider. This is despite the fact that they sell DC & AC versions.

Brian.

Märklin Magazin wrote years ago that they use the same decoders for Märklin and Trix. 39390 (BR 39) and 39230 (BR 23) were the first locos with these new decoders.

But so far they have used different firmware: one for Märklin (no DCC), one for Trix (no mfx), one for mLD and mSD (DCC and mfx).
I would not be surprised to find that Trix locos now come with DCC+mfx while Märklin locos continue to come with MM+mfx.

Will be interesting to see what they do about mfx+ in mSD decoders. Will there be mfx+ with DCC and MM? Or will there be different firmware versions for mfx+ with MM or the "classic" mfx/DCC/MM? Or will they restrict mfx+ to factory-installed decoders only?
But that's a bit off topic here.

With mLD/mSD sold separately, you can disable any protocol (incl. DCC). You cannot disable the protocol used for programming.
Using MM you can disable mfx and DCC. Using DCC you can disable mfx and MM. Using mfx you can disable MM and DCC.

Märklin/Trix make no decoders with SX. For N gauge they buy third party decoders for SX and DCC AFAIK.
People with SX only controllers cannot buy digital Trix locos any more (but they still offer analogue locos).

BTW: ESU make decoders with SX, DCC, MM, and mfx. So it can be done, but for Märklin it's probably not worth the effort.

It's possible to have same decoders (hardware) with different settings.

Same decoder. SDS does not disturb DCC.

For cab control you need mfx+ and the Trix new items only show mfx, not mfx+.

Which loco was it (ref. number)?
I have one Trix loco with SDS and soundless DCC decoder, no problems at all (with my controller at least).
I presume my loco has a D&H DCC decoder and not one of the new el cheapo "Universal Genius" type. You cannot blame the motor if the decoder is crap; maybe the problem was with the controller.

No mfx+ symbol in the Trix brochure - and mfx+ is required for cab control.

I continue to disagree - but OTOH I don't care who you blame. It works on my layout (one Märklin loco with Compact C-Sine and ESU decoder, one Trix loco with SDS and original decoder - both operated using DCC).

Makes perfect sense for Mother M - they want to sell CS2s and new locos.
With mfx+ the loco decoder stores the available sand, fuel, coal, water, whatever - can be done with DCC, but not with third party decoders or old decoders.

It's a fact that the Märklin new items brochure says that mfx+ is required for cab control.
It's a fact that the Trix new items brochure announces mfx (and not mfx+) for new Trix models.

Errors in their new items brochures are not unusual, but I wouldn't rely on them providing more than they promise.

Let's just wait for a corrected new items brochure or for the items to be shipped. Time will tell.

Z21 has a much nicer cab control that works with any decoder. No need to wait for MäTrix ...