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NZMarklinist		#51 Posted : 09 January 2013 14:39:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,757 Location: Auckland NZ		Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: vilithejou 37995 Dampflok Big Boy U.P. 849,95 RRP for 37993 and 37994 is € 799.95. Makes me wonder if there is something new about this one. Originally Posted by: vilithejou 41929 Schnellzugwagen-Set Rheingold 349,95 RRP for 41928 is € 299.95. Makes me wonder if this set was improved. Maybe two baggage cars, maybe built-in decoder, maybe built-in interior lights. It's the plastic era II Rheingold - coaches roll much easier than the tin-plate era II Rheingold coaches. Tom, All, I think Marklin have realised the value of Big Boys, just look at their ebay prices, and are just hoping to extract more cash out of poor enthusiasts like David (Klarinettemaster & BD for that matter, might even be me but no, well probably not ) I think your right on with the 41929 Rheingold Set, but extra baggage car only probably, but we can hope, I'd like factory fitted over head lights and an mfx function decoder. I will sell my unrun 42283 set and buy this one ! Of course I don't expect any of us to have to actually pay those prices, I'm sure there will be preorder discounts available
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H0		#52 Posted : 09 January 2013 14:50:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		On Stummi's Forum they say that this year's Big Boy will be weathered (that would justify a higher price).
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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jeehring		#53 Posted : 09 January 2013 15:07:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		...mmmm....weathered Big boy....Delightful...delectable....enchanting....Specially if they did it in the the same way they did for recent time ....
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NS1200		#54 Posted : 09 January 2013 20:28:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC) Posts: 3,443		Drehscheibe reports that the new items for 2013 have been presented to a selected audience today and that all will be made public on Monday 14th January at noon. A clear embargo till that time is in force. At least that gives us all some peace of mind over the weekend,and enjoy our "old" trains before the new crop arrives. No sign of the third 4415 special car either. On the entire internet there is no picture to be found of the new startersets,or much else for that matter. I would wish our politicians would be able to keep secrets like that........
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Bigdaddynz		#55 Posted : 09 January 2013 21:24:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: H0 On Stummi's Forum they say that this year's Big Boy will be weathered (that would justify a higher price). I was wondering if that was the situation. It might be similar to 37992 (but that was a limited edition model, iirc).
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kbvrod		#56 Posted : 09 January 2013 21:25:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,597 Location: Beverly, MA		Hi all, Nice but a fail! Dr D
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Bigdaddynz		#57 Posted : 09 January 2013 21:33:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: kbvrod Nice but a fail! That piccie is of 37992 Kev, not the new 37995.
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NZMarklinist		#58 Posted : 10 January 2013 12:34:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,757 Location: Auckland NZ		When it was available, or after it was from M., and Lokshop had a few to get rid of I could have bought one of those M37992 Big Boys for about 385.00eu without Mwst and whilst tempted, I didn't think the weathering was convincing, so didn't bother, and of course I'm not doing USA RR, at all, oh no . However when the preorder price for 37994 was 488eu in Jan '012 I couldn't resist. Another weathered one I'll be able to leave alone With apologies if I offend any owners of the 37992 Just my HO That said a 37992 without box and damaged Wooden Case sold very recently on ebay for just under $US800.00. 37993 on the other hand seem to be $US800.00 - 850.00
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vilithejou		#59 Posted : 10 January 2013 14:54:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 850 Location: Vic, Barcelona		First Wagon Eurotrain New item 2013 >47143<
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kbvrod		#60 Posted : 10 January 2013 19:17:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,597 Location: Beverly, MA		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: kbvrod Nice but a fail! That piccie is of 37992 Kev, not the new 37995. Hi all, I agree with Glen,the factory weathering is not very convincing,IMHO. I remember reading that M spent 1 million DM on R&D on the Big Boy alone So expect more,... Dr D
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steventrain		#61 Posted : 10 January 2013 21:38:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Originally Posted by: vilithejou From stummi and not offical by Marklin 29040 Digital-Startpackung Bundesbahn 899,95 29169 Startpackung Serie 5906 + Güterzug 159,95 29171 Startpackung DSB 129,95 29214 Startpackung Güterzug 89,95 29310 Startpackung Forstwirtschaft 169,95 29486 Digital-Startpackung BLS 349,95 29720 Digital-Startpackung Personen 499,95 29740 Mega-Startpackung Bundesbahn 1499,95 37358 E-Lok BR 101 DB AG 299,95 37764 Diesellok BR 218 DB 299,95 37956 Schnellzug-Dampflok BR 03 DB 399,95 37957 Schnellzug-Dampflok BR 03 DB 349,95 37995 Dampflok Big Boy U.P. 849,95 39024 Schnellzug-Dampflok BR 18.3 D 399,95 39233 Personenzug-Dampflok BR 23 DB 399,95 39371 E-Lok BR 101 Polio DB AG 299,95 41929 Schnellzugwagen-Set Rheingold 349,95 44310 Wagen-Set Forstwirtschaft 32,95 78310 Themen-Ergänzungspackung Forst 89,95 81870 Startpackung Intercity DB 329,95 Update. 29040 Digital-Startpackung Bundesbahn 2 Züge 2 x MS2 899,95 29169 Startpackung Serie 5906 + Güterzug 159,95 29171 Startpackung DSB 129,95 29214 Startpackung Güterzug Delta 89,95 29310 Startpackung Forstwirtschaft IR 169,95 29486 Digital-Startpackung BLS 349,95 29720 Digital-Startpackung Personenzug V200 +Silberlinge MS2 499,95 29740 Mega-Startpackung Bundesbahn 2 Züge CS2 1499,95 37358 DB AG 101 Sound mfx+ Decoder 299,95 37764 DB IV 218 Sound mfx+ Decoder 299,95 37956 DB III 03 Witte Windleitbleche Sound mfx+ Decoder 399,95 37957 DB IIIa 03 Wagner Windleitbleche ohne Sound 349,95 37995 U.P II Dampflok Big Boy gealtert 849,95 39024 DRG 18.3 mfx Sound 399,95 39233 DB III 23 Sound mfx+ Decoder 399,95 39371 DB AG 101 Polioschutzimpfung mit Spende 299,95 41929 DRG Rheingold 6-teilig erhabene Beschriftung 349,95 44310 Wagen-Set Forstwirtschaft 32,95 78310 Themen-Ergänzungspackung Forstwirtschaft 89,95 81870 Startpackung Intercity DB 329,95
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RayF		#62 Posted : 10 January 2013 21:46:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Thanks Stephen. So now we know that some of these have the new "mfx+" decoder.
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steventrain		#63 Posted : 10 January 2013 21:48:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Originally Posted by: RayF Thanks Stephen. So now we know that some of these have the new "mfx+" decoder. What is an mfx decoder +? Together with the CS2 software version 2.5. can locos with this decoder (3 difficulty levels) are driven alongside the standard operation mode in the cab. Looks very interesting. Here is the cab of the locomotive in the display of the CS2 is there and ready to operate as SIFA incl.
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H0		#64 Posted : 10 January 2013 21:50:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		mfx+ means "CS2 goes Z21". Z21 does it for all decoders, CS2 does it for mfx+ decoders. Is that the big surprise we're waiting for? Cab control in the CS2?
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mjrallare		#65 Posted : 10 January 2013 21:51:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 563		Originally Posted by: steventrain ... 37956 DB III 03 Witte Windleitbleche Sound mfx+ Decoder 399,95 37957 DB IIIa 03 Wagner Windleitbleche ohne Sound 349,95 ... That means I have to buy them both! Only remains to decide whether to pre-order them for 319,95/279,95 or buy them at the end of the year for 249,95/209,95... /Torbjörn
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vilithejou		#66 Posted : 10 January 2013 21:56:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 850 Location: Vic, Barcelona		My dealer confirm two more items: 1. One locomotive of north of Europe with two or three parts and two motors. Metal body 2. A Canadian train
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RayF		#67 Posted : 10 January 2013 21:58:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Originally Posted by: steventrain Originally Posted by: RayF Thanks Stephen. So now we know that some of these have the new "mfx+" decoder. What is an mfx decoder +? Together with the CS2 software version 2.5. can locos with this decoder (3 difficulty levels) are driven alongside the standard operation mode in the cab. Looks very interesting. Here is the cab of the locomotive in the display of the CS2 is there and ready to operate as SIFA incl. It looks like the CS2 screen will show a display representing the cab controls. Maybe a more realistic way of controlling the loco?
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RayF		#68 Posted : 10 January 2013 22:00:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Originally Posted by: vilithejou My dealer confirm two more items: 1. One locomotive of north of Europe with two or three parts and two motors. Metal body 2. A Canadian train Very intriguing!
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mjrallare		#69 Posted : 10 January 2013 22:14:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 563		Originally Posted by: RayF Very intriguing! Agreed! This "silly season" before we really know what the new stuff will be is great fun!
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clapcott		#70 Posted : 10 January 2013 22:29:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,448 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Originally Posted by: H0 mfx+ means "CS2 goes Z21". Z21 does it for all decoders, CS2 does it for mfx+ decoders. Is that the big surprise we're waiting for? Cab control in the CS2? mFX+ might simply refer to the newer, firmware update-able decoders However a technology functional jump (of the protocol) is due and the "me too" brigade could expect functional tweaks like >16 functions A Z21 "skin"/layout, by itself , wouldn't warrant a protocol update - it would benefit by a more responsive CS touch screen Even overlaying real time cab video! would not be covered by mFX - but the CS would need a video-in capability Sounds more like the next 'vision' is being telegraphed - but keep in mind - mFx locos were available (just) before the MS1 was available but almost 2 years before the CS(60212) hit the streets. Note: Just speculation but - with the 60830/60840 no longer available, I have been wondering if their replacements would just be DCC capable (aka 74461/5 roll-up) or include (via mFX maybe) added "state" feedback capabilities. Either way - something is due on the infrastructure front
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NS1200		#71 Posted : 11 January 2013 07:23:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC) Posts: 3,443		Originally Posted by: vilithejou My dealer confirm two more items: 1. One locomotive of north of Europe with two or three parts and two motors. Metal body 2. A Canadian train Item under 1.could be the 3-part Swedish articulated loco (DM3?) of which a poster was seen in the design department of Maerklin some time ago,i called this the shape of things to come. The Canadian train is likely made up of the good old streamliner coaches plus some F7 Diesel units,this time in Canadian colors,hopefully CN,with the red/white/black loco's. Edited by user 19 January 2013 08:28:34(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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5HorizonsRR		#72 Posted : 11 January 2013 07:37:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,996 Location: CA, USA		If the Canadian train is the Canadian Pacific F7's with Aluminum cars (including the brown striping!) I may be in trouble....
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chpoint		#73 Posted : 11 January 2013 14:30:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/05/2009(UTC) Posts: 8 Location: Geneva, GE		Hello, 'Canadian train' hey... could be a Northlander, they stopped the service end of last year, and Märklin made the first one 35 years ago in 1978. Cheers Christian
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steventrain		#74 Posted : 11 January 2013 14:32:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		2013 new items on http://www.modellbahneck...3146519725aa886311bfb513 http://www.bahnorama.ch/...og/index.php?cPath=73_74 But still no pictures yet.
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NS1200		#75 Posted : 11 January 2013 15:39:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC) Posts: 3,443		Originally Posted by: chpoint Hello, 'Canadian train' hey... could be a Northlander, they stopped the service end of last year, and Märklin made the first one 35 years ago in 1978. Cheers Christian That would be nice,but a disaster for those who are keeping the original Northlander as a collectors item/investment. My guestimate is that M would not like to jeopardize the interests of collectors that way. The original Northlander was issued in a limited number only. The aluminium streamliners i believe first appeared in 1997/1998,it is very easy to issue them in various roadnames without extensive investments. In that way R&D costs will be earned back bit by bit. Same goes for the good old F7 models,very easy to bring out new roadnames.
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H0		#76 Posted : 11 January 2013 16:19:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		Pictures of the Northlander on its last run can be seen here: http://www.cbc.ca/sudbury/features/northlander/ Different locos, different coaches than with the Märklin versions of the past, so why not a new Northlander? But probably it'll be a train with a different name to cover a different area in Canada.
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RayF		#77 Posted : 11 January 2013 17:16:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Northlander would be nice, though I'm not really into North American trains. In this case the train originated in Europe, so there might be an excuse to see it running over European tracks. I don't see why present and future modellers should suffer so that a handful of collectors can say that their "showcase queens" are so exclusive. Anyway, I don't see why making a new model would affect the value of an old one? As long as the new one does not pretend to be an antique there would be a clear distinction between the two. The new model would no doubt be closer to scale length and have much more modern electronics in it.
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foumaro		#78 Posted : 11 January 2013 17:31:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,431 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR If the Canadian train is the Canadian Pacific F7's with Aluminum cars (including the brown striping!) I may be in trouble.... Fire in our wallets.I hope all these rumours became reality.
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mbarreto		#79 Posted : 11 January 2013 19:09:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,334		This is a bit out of topic, as it is a wish and probably not new item, but I would like to see a bananas 8 car set Ep. III. In case banana cars already existed in Ep. I, then I prefer it in Ep. I.
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NS1200		#80 Posted : 11 January 2013 19:15:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC) Posts: 3,443		Ray, Time will tell who is right. I owned the first Big Boy,the Insider model. Thence Maerklin started to turn out all sorts of Big Boys,and they still do. It just does not feel right,at the time it felt like betraying loyal Insider members.
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mbarreto		#81 Posted : 11 January 2013 19:20:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,334		Originally Posted by: NS1200 Ray, Time will tell who is right. I owned the first Big Boy,the Insider model. Thence Maerklin started to turn out all sorts of Big Boys,and they still do. It just does not feel right,at the time it felt like betraying loyal Insider members. I understand the feeling. I think it is not profitable for Märklin to do moulds just for Insiders, and so we must adapt to the fact that Insider models are just One-time series models, but nothing more.
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RMW		#82 Posted : 11 January 2013 19:27:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/12/2009(UTC) Posts: 575 Location: The Netherlands		Originally Posted by: H0 Pictures of the Northlander on its last run can be seen here: http://www.cbc.ca/sudbury/features/northlander/ The Northlander / TEE De-1000 is back in the Netherlands again : Picture 2007 - Amsterdam Picture 2007 - Amsterdam (TEE) I hope Märklin will make a new NS DE-1000 or SBB RAm with MFX and full-sound. Roco and LSmodels have made nice (new) trainsets of it, but Märklin did not. Maikel (RMW)
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kbvrod		#83 Posted : 11 January 2013 19:30:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,597 Location: Beverly, MA		Hi all, See my post above about the investment M made with the BB,there was no way M was going to only have 1 model to only Insiders and I said so at the time. The Revell model is nice! Dr D
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NS1200		#84 Posted : 11 January 2013 19:49:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC) Posts: 3,443		The 3150 Northlander is currently doing between Euro 1,200.- and Euro 1,800.- on internet. Worth the original investment i would say.
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mbarreto		#85 Posted : 11 January 2013 20:10:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,334		Originally Posted by: NS1200 The 3150 Northlander is currently doing between Euro 1,200.- and Euro 1,800.- on internet. Worth the original investment i would say. Totally agree. Even if Märklin produces new versions, the old versions also keep value. Maybe if there was no newer version with the same mould the value of the old models would be higher, but that was not sustainable to the manufacturer, unless the prices were extremely high. Even in this case, it was difficult for the manufacturer to have enough customers for the model so it was profitable.
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eigentor		#86 Posted : 11 January 2013 23:26:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 13 Location: Saskatoon, SK		I'm curious to know how the original "le Capitole" (3059) value holding up since Marklin produced a replica recently. Any indication or is it too soon?
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Armando		#87 Posted : 12 January 2013 00:03:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/07/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,358 Location: Houston, Texas		Originally Posted by: eigentor I'm curious to know how the original "le Capitole" (3059) value holding up since Marklin produced a replica recently. Any indication or is it too soon? There is currently a bid on eBay for the original Le Capitole locomotive (3059) in excellent or like new condition. Several 4075 cars are included too. You can google the auction and watch for the final price. It will be for sure way, way more than what the "new" Le Capitole runs for. I don't think that a replica will ever replace the collector value of the original. Cheers!
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cookee_nz		#88 Posted : 12 January 2013 00:28:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 4,013 Location: Paremata, Wellington		Originally Posted by: Armando Originally Posted by: eigentor I'm curious to know how the original "le Capitole" (3059) value holding up since Marklin produced a replica recently. Any indication or is it too soon? There is currently a bid on eBay for the original Le Capitole locomotive (3059) in excellent or like new condition. Several 4075 cars are included too. You can google the auction and watch for the final price. It will be for sure way, way more than what the "new" Le Capitole runs for. I don't think that a replica will ever replace the collector value of the original. Cheers! Hi Armando, how about a link?, that would be helpful. I've checked ebay.com & .de, no original Le Capitole including several cars are to be found. Plenty of version 2 sets, some original locos and coaches but none for both. Thanks Steve
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5HorizonsRR		#89 Posted : 12 January 2013 00:57:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,996 Location: CA, USA		Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Originally Posted by: Armando Originally Posted by: eigentor I'm curious to know how the original "le Capitole" (3059) value holding up since Marklin produced a replica recently. Any indication or is it too soon? There is currently a bid on eBay for the original Le Capitole locomotive (3059) in excellent or like new condition. Several 4075 cars are included too. You can google the auction and watch for the final price. It will be for sure way, way more than what the "new" Le Capitole runs for. I don't think that a replica will ever replace the collector value of the original. Cheers! Hi Armando, how about a link?, that would be helpful. I've checked ebay.com & .de, no original Le Capitole including several cars are to be found. Plenty of version 2 sets, some original locos and coaches but none for both. Thanks Steve Its there on ebay.com. Search by part numbers. Loco is fair game but don't bid me up too high on the coaches guys!!! I'm hoping I can get 3 of them...
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cookee_nz		#90 Posted : 12 January 2013 01:44:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 4,013 Location: Paremata, Wellington		Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Originally Posted by: Armando Originally Posted by: eigentor I'm curious to know how the original "le Capitole" (3059) value holding up since Marklin produced a replica recently. Any indication or is it too soon? There is currently a bid on eBay for the original Le Capitole locomotive (3059) in excellent or like new condition. Several 4075 cars are included too. You can google the auction and watch for the final price. It will be for sure way, way more than what the "new" Le Capitole runs for. I don't think that a replica will ever replace the collector value of the original. Cheers! Hi Armando, how about a link?, that would be helpful. I've checked ebay.com & .de, no original Le Capitole including several cars are to be found. Plenty of version 2 sets, some original locos and coaches but none for both. Thanks Steve Its there on ebay.com. Search by part numbers. Loco is fair game but don't bid me up too high on the coaches guys!!! I'm hoping I can get 3 of them... I've searched ebay.de for "märklin capitole", "märklin 3059", "märklin 4075" I've searched ebay.com (and com.au) for "marklin capitole", "marklin 3059", "marklin 4075" and ensured 'worldwide' and 'include description' are both checked No hits for anything other than individual items. Believe me, after 15+ years on Ebay, I know how to search so something is clearly eluding me here. 'scotty1954' is selling 1 loco and 5 individual coaches, all seperate items but no single listing for loco AND coaches Have I misunderstood this comment.... "There is currently a bid on eBay for the original Le Capitole locomotive (3059) in excellent or like new condition. Several 4075 cars are included too. You can google the auction and watch for the final price. It will be for sure way, way more than what the "new" Le Capitole runs for."........ to mean literally a single auction, when it's supposed to say that "Several 4075 cars are also listed by the same seller"?? If that's the case then of course I've found it, but if there's another one, 'someone', please, bring up the auction referred to, copy the link, or the auction number, and post it here before I blow a gasket, or a fuse, or derail....... sigh Must be a full moon..............
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jeehring		#91 Posted : 12 January 2013 01:51:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Originally Posted by: RayF Originally Posted by: steventrain Originally Posted by: RayF Thanks Stephen. So now we know that some of these have the new "mfx+" decoder. What is an mfx decoder +? Together with the CS2 software version 2.5. can locos with this decoder (3 difficulty levels) are driven alongside the standard operation mode in the cab. Looks very interesting. Here is the cab of the locomotive in the display of the CS2 is there and ready to operate as SIFA incl. It looks like the CS2 screen will show a display representing the cab controls. Maybe a more realistic way of controlling the loco? A display representing a cab control : it is not for myself....I even find it ridiculous. It's like a barrier or an obstacle. My pleasure is= my Loks on the layout. Not on a screen. If I want to play with a screen I buy a video game "train simulator". Or I could accept it just like an option (not mandatory) I need efficient control of our train-models : fast & simple. For instance : the control knobs of the CS2 with a kind of adjustable inertia are the best I ever seen on this market. another thing I find somewhat ridiculous is the raising number of sound functions, it seems to be a competition : 20, 24, 30,40....70, 100 ? what they do is cutting sounds into slices....What a sound !....just the noise of steam engines or Diesel engines rolling on tracks.....a tenth of different sound commands is maximum for my taste...
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eigentor		#92 Posted : 12 January 2013 02:45:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 13 Location: Saskatoon, SK		Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Its there on ebay.com. Search by part numbers. Loco is fair game but don't bid me up too high on the coaches guys!!! I'm hoping I can get 3 of them... Haha... well no worries from me. I'd rather have the replica and run it for years until the wheels fall off. Then it will be worth less, and my grandchildren will be less likely to sell it. So then it will stay in the family and be passed down to future generations. I better start saving for whatever that Canadian train turns out to be. Cheers, Markus
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jeehring		#93 Posted : 12 January 2013 02:46:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Originally Posted by: kbvrod Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: kbvrod Nice but a fail! That piccie is of 37992 Kev, not the new 37995. Hi all, I agree with Glen,the factory weathering is not very convincing,IMHO. I remember reading that M spent 1 million DM on R&D on the Big Boy alone So expect more,... Dr D For about 2 years they have modified completely their way of work : you should look at the most recent weathered models, it's now an accurate work + beautiful finish. A work of art probably made by specialists...(the last weathered TUBIZE - Luxenburg railways ex br 52 - is magnificient) Now they have developped a real range of weathered items. A special range. Which was not the case before.
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kc6uvm_George		#94 Posted : 12 January 2013 04:03:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/11/2012(UTC) Posts: 131 Location: Lancaster, CA		I'm kind of partial to Southern Pacific as its tracks split my home town of Lancaster in two on the way up to Mojave and onto Tehachapi, CA. I'd like to see a GS4 (Northern) in HOac if M chooses to do another American steam engine in either Daylight or the Freedom train with a set of 13 cars.
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5HorizonsRR		#95 Posted : 12 January 2013 05:30:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,996 Location: CA, USA		[quote 'scotty1954' is selling 1 loco and 5 individual coaches, all seperate items but no single listing for loco AND coaches Must be a full moon.............. "Scotty1954" is who i was thinking of, no full sets. Sorry for the confusion
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Armando		#96 Posted : 12 January 2013 06:19:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/07/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,358 Location: Houston, Texas		Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Originally Posted by: Armando Originally Posted by: eigentor I'm curious to know how the original "le Capitole" (3059) value holding up since Marklin produced a replica recently. Any indication or is it too soon? There is currently a bid on eBay for the original Le Capitole locomotive (3059) in excellent or like new condition. Several 4075 cars are included too. You can google the auction and watch for the final price. It will be for sure way, way more than what the "new" Le Capitole runs for. I don't think that a replica will ever replace the collector value of the original. Cheers! Hi Armando, how about a link?, that would be helpful. I've checked ebay.com & .de, no original Le Capitole including several cars are to be found. Plenty of version 2 sets, some original locos and coaches but none for both. Thanks Steve Here's the link to the locomotive listing. The cars are sold by the same seller: http://www.ebay.com/itm/...trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 Cheers!
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Armando		#97 Posted : 12 January 2013 06:23:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/07/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,358 Location: Houston, Texas		Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Originally Posted by: Armando Originally Posted by: eigentor I'm curious to know how the original "le Capitole" (3059) value holding up since Marklin produced a replica recently. Any indication or is it too soon? There is currently a bid on eBay for the original Le Capitole locomotive (3059) in excellent or like new condition. Several 4075 cars are included too. You can google the auction and watch for the final price. It will be for sure way, way more than what the "new" Le Capitole runs for. I don't think that a replica will ever replace the collector value of the original. Cheers! Hi Armando, how about a link?, that would be helpful. I've checked ebay.com & .de, no original Le Capitole including several cars are to be found. Plenty of version 2 sets, some original locos and coaches but none for both. Thanks Steve Here's the link to the locomotive auction. This seller is also selling the cars (although not with the locomotive): http://www.ebay.com/itm/...trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
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Goofy		#98 Posted : 12 January 2013 08:36:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,292		Originally Posted by: H0 mfx+ means "CS2 goes Z21". Z21 does it for all decoders, CS2 does it for mfx+ decoders. Is that the big surprise we're waiting for? Cab control in the CS2? Not sure about that. Lenz have + symbol in own decoder too which stands for control you can do via system that allows all functionals. Z21 don´t have all control in digital system like "Rail-Com"(example). Marklin don´t either have Rail-Com in CS2 for DCC system yet.
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H0		#99 Posted : 12 January 2013 09:29:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: Armando I don't think that a replica will ever replace the collector value of the original. I think a replica will also make the original cheaper. A price depends on supply and demand. Those interested in the train will get the replica, so demand for the original will be lower. Originally Posted by: RMW I hope Märklin will make a new NS DE-1000 or SBB RAm with MFX and full-sound. Roco and LSmodels have made nice (new) trainsets of it, but Märklin did not. Trix made a new full-length model recently. And Trix is Märklin. So they have the moulds for a full-length plastic version in house. Originally Posted by: RayF The new model would no doubt be closer to scale length and have much more modern electronics in it. A new mould would be longer. But will there be a new mould? Or will we see a new train with streamliner coaches? (Probably from old moulds with old scale length, too.) For the new Canadian train I expect streamliner coaches, not a RAm re-run of the Northlander.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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mj		#100 Posted : 12 January 2013 11:26:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 370 Location: Växjö		Originally Posted by: NS1200 Originally Posted by: vilithejou My dealer confirm two more items: 1. One locomotive of north of Europe with two or three parts and two motors. Metal body 2. A Canadian train Item under 1.could be the 3-part Norwegian articulated loco (DM3?) of which a poster was seen in the design department of Maerklin some time ago,i called this the shape of things to come. The Canadian train is likely made up of the good old streamliner coaches plus some F7 Diesel units,this time in Canadian colors,hopefully CN,with the red/white/black loco's. The Swedish Dm3, not norwegian, would be a dream come true for me. It would be a certain but for me.
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