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steventrain		#1 Posted : 20 December 2012 18:43:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		2013 new items Click the number to see Marklin database. >37617< V60 608 Max Bögl Telex/sound. >47037< Steel carrier Type Rs 684 with steel beam. >48743< Type Samms 709 Heavy-Duty Flat Car for "Permanent Roadway", DBSR, Era VI. >48744< Heavy-Duty Flat Car Set with stepped concrete beams. All above are exclusively at some German stores only. 2013 new items list due in January 2013. Edited by user 30 April 2013 16:47:48(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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danmarklinman		#2 Posted : 20 December 2012 20:27:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/10/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,404		Originally Posted by: steventrain 2013 new items Click the number to see Marklin database. >37617< V60 608 Max Bögl Telex/sound. >47037< Steel carrier Type Rs 684 with steel beam. >48743< Type Samms 709 Heavy-Duty Flat Car for "Permanent Roadway", DBSR, Era VI. >48744< Heavy-Duty Flat Car Set with stepped concrete beams. All above are exclusively at some German stores only. 2013 new items list due in January 2013. Thahks Steven I like the freight cars Just hopeing they do the SNCB version!
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vilithejou		#3 Posted : 01 January 2013 16:11:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 850 Location: Vic, Barcelona		Hi it seem that Marklin will tell us something about the news of 2013. >Märklin.nl< Has somebody the photo of the presentation of the news? may they tell us a little new item
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Western Pacific		#4 Posted : 01 January 2013 16:57:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2009(UTC) Posts: 841 Location: Lidingö, Sweden		Voorspoedig 2013 [01.01.2013] Märklin wenst alle lezers een spetterend nieuw jaar toe! De voorbereidingen voor de presentaties van de nouveautés 2013 zijn in volle gang. Misschien heeft u de uitnodiging van uw handelaar al ontvangen (anders krijgt u die binnenkort), om de preview van deze nouveautés bij te wonen. Gaat dat zien! Knowing some Dutch: Prosperous 2013 [01.01.2013] Märklin wishes all readers a smashing new year! The preparation for the presentations of the new items 2013 is in full swing. You have perhaps received an invitation from your dealer (otherwise you'll get it soon), to attend the preview of the new items. Check it out! So two conditions need to be met: 1) to have an invitation and 2) to be in the Netherlands to attend at a dealer's preview show. Added: If somebody being a native Dutch speaker would improve the translation is fine with me, even if I believe I'm pretty close (otherwise I wouldn't have written it).
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steventrain		#5 Posted : 01 January 2013 17:48:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Find out in next few days or next week.
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NS1200		#6 Posted : 01 January 2013 20:16:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC) Posts: 3,443		The translation of the Dutch announcement is very good! "spetterend" means "splashing". This is not very exciting news at all and not confined to The Netherlands. On numerous German websites of Maerklin sellers the same announcement in German can be found. The 2013 new items will be presented in the last week of January i believe. Seeing is believing,it took a very long time before the 2013 catalogue was available in the M shop in Rotterdam. Paul.
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I_love_Marklin_37538		#7 Posted : 01 January 2013 23:17:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2008(UTC) Posts: 957 Location: ,		Me hopes for some Saxon XVIIIH or XXHV this year
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steventrain		#8 Posted : 06 January 2013 17:18:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		2013 New item brochure front cover if no fake.
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vilithejou		#9 Posted : 06 January 2013 17:32:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 850 Location: Vic, Barcelona		Originally Posted by: steventrain 2013 New item brochure front cover. I think is a fake The cover of the catalogue 12/13 put it off this black parts and takes a photo all over the cover
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steventrain		#10 Posted : 06 January 2013 17:40:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: steventrain 2013 New item brochure front cover. I think is a fake The cover of the catalogue 12/13 put it off this black parts and takes a photo all over the cover Thanks, Lets wait and see. I guess Insider 2013 BR58 on cover.
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vilithejou		#11 Posted : 06 January 2013 18:02:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 850 Location: Vic, Barcelona		Originally Posted by: steventrain Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: steventrain 2013 New item brochure front cover. I think is a fake The cover of the catalogue 12/13 put it off this black parts and takes a photo all over the cover Thanks, Lets wait and see. I guess Insider 2013 BR58 on cover. Yes BR58 is a good option but let's see
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mike c		#12 Posted : 06 January 2013 18:49:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,245 Location: Montreal, QC		What looks strange to me is that there are two tracks on the lower level and it looks like only one on the higher level. Add to that the fact that only the front track on the lower level has catenary. The church at Wassen in the background was a nice touch. Regards Mike C
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H0		#13 Posted : 06 January 2013 19:48:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: mike c What looks strange to me is that there are two tracks on the lower level and it looks like only one on the higher level. Add to that the fact that only the front track on the lower level has catenary. A typical Märklin photo, photoshopped as usual. It's this month's wallpaper: http://maerklin.de/de/pr...wallpaper/wallpaper.html The title of the new items brochure can still be a fake.
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NS1200		#14 Posted : 06 January 2013 20:02:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC) Posts: 3,443		Story goes that the new items brochure comes in week 2,that is from tomorrow.
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pa-pauls		#15 Posted : 06 January 2013 22:12:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway		Originally Posted by: NS1200 Story goes that the new items brochure comes in week 2,that is from tomorrow. That's early I think,,,
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H0		#16 Posted : 06 January 2013 22:30:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		Our club meeting is on the third Tuesday in every month. In 2011 the new items brochure was released on that day, in 2012 it was out a few days earlier. Not that Märklin consider our club meetings when publishing the brochure ... They want full order books - the sooner they publish the brochure, the better ...
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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Bigdaddynz		#17 Posted : 06 January 2013 22:47:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: mike c Add to that the fact that only the front track on the lower level has catenary. Both levels have catenary, the top level is quite faint.
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vilithejou		#18 Posted : 07 January 2013 14:20:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 850 Location: Vic, Barcelona		From stummi and not offical by Marklin 29040 Digital-Startpackung Bundesbahn 899,95 29169 Startpackung Serie 5906 + Güterzug 159,95 29171 Startpackung DSB 129,95 29214 Startpackung Güterzug 89,95 29310 Startpackung Forstwirtschaft 169,95 29486 Digital-Startpackung BLS 349,95 29720 Digital-Startpackung Personen 499,95 29740 Mega-Startpackung Bundesbahn 1499,95 37358 E-Lok BR 101 DB AG 299,95 37764 Diesellok BR 218 DB 299,95 37956 Schnellzug-Dampflok BR 03 DB 399,95 37957 Schnellzug-Dampflok BR 03 DB 349,95 37995 Dampflok Big Boy U.P. 849,95 39024 Schnellzug-Dampflok BR 18.3 D 399,95 39233 Personenzug-Dampflok BR 23 DB 399,95 39371 E-Lok BR 101 Polio DB AG 299,95 41929 Schnellzugwagen-Set Rheingold 349,95 44310 Wagen-Set Forstwirtschaft 32,95 78310 Themen-Ergänzungspackung Forst 89,95 81870 Startpackung Intercity DB 329,95
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jeehring		#19 Posted : 07 January 2013 14:58:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		...37956 & 37957....I don't see any BR 03 until now, excepted a 15 years old tooling (or more ?), it could be a new one ?
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RayF		#20 Posted : 07 January 2013 15:40:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Originally Posted by: jeehring ...37956 & 37957....I don't see any BR 03 until now, excepted a 15 years old tooling (or more ?), it could be a new one ? Maybe a new tooling based on the Br03.10 new tooling from last year. (37915)
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RayF		#21 Posted : 07 January 2013 15:42:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		I hope there's some more new items other than what's on that list....
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steventrain		#22 Posted : 07 January 2013 15:55:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Originally Posted by: RayF Originally Posted by: jeehring ...37956 & 37957....I don't see any BR 03 until now, excepted a 15 years old tooling (or more ?), it could be a new one ? Maybe a new tooling based on the Br03.10 new tooling from last year. (37915) With streamlined?
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vilithejou		#23 Posted : 07 January 2013 16:02:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 850 Location: Vic, Barcelona		Originally Posted by: steventrain Originally Posted by: RayF Originally Posted by: jeehring ...37956 & 37957....I don't see any BR 03 until now, excepted a 15 years old tooling (or more ?), it could be a new one ? Maybe a new tooling based on the Br03.10 new tooling from last year. (37915) With streamlined? I think that option and it will be a good new... but....
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H0		#24 Posted : 07 January 2013 17:18:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: RayF Originally Posted by: jeehring ...37956 & 37957....I don't see any BR 03 until now, excepted a 15 years old tooling (or more ?), it could be a new one ? Maybe a new tooling based on the Br03.10 new tooling from last year. (37915) Looks as if there'll be one with sound and one without sound, so I presume it's a new tooling. BR 03 and BR 03.10 don't have much in common, but with their new CAD system it might be possible to save some work. The boiler of a new BR 03 could also be used for a new BR 41 (with old boiler) - this time hopefully with four sand pipes on each side. The information on Stummi's Forum came from a Märklin dealer. I think the list is no hoax (but it's incomplete). The numbers follow the 37955 BR 03 double pack, so I don't expect a streamlined BR 03. Well, just speculating ...
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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RayF		#25 Posted : 07 January 2013 18:16:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,871 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: RayF Originally Posted by: jeehring ...37956 & 37957....I don't see any BR 03 until now, excepted a 15 years old tooling (or more ?), it could be a new one ? Maybe a new tooling based on the Br03.10 new tooling from last year. (37915) Looks as if there'll be one with sound and one without sound, so I presume it's a new tooling. BR 03 and BR 03.10 don't have much in common, but with their new CAD system it might be possible to save some work. The boiler of a new BR 03 could also be used for a new BR 41 (with old boiler) - this time hopefully with four sand pipes on each side. The information on Stummi's Forum came from a Märklin dealer. I think the list is no hoax (but it's incomplete). The numbers follow the 37955 BR 03 double pack, so I don't expect a streamlined BR 03. Well, just speculating ... I thought the chassis might be similar to the 37915, but the body will be different in details. I also don't expect it to be streamlined.
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steventrain		#26 Posted : 07 January 2013 18:48:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		The list is not hoax - Running Number. 37358 BR101 Electric '101 113-9' DB AG 37764 BR218 Diesel '218 245-9' DB 39233 BR23 Steam tender '23 008'
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5HorizonsRR		#27 Posted : 07 January 2013 19:24:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,996 Location: CA, USA		BLS start set sounds interesting, but at that price I suspect the Traxx hobby loco and some boring hobby cars. Otherwise my wallet sounds safe so far.
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ozzman		#28 Posted : 07 January 2013 20:05:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,828 Location: Sydney, Australia		Originally Posted by: vilithejou From stummi and not offical by Marklin 29040 Digital-Startpackung Bundesbahn 899,95 29169 Startpackung Serie 5906 + Güterzug 159,95 29171 Startpackung DSB 129,95 29214 Startpackung Güterzug 89,95 29310 Startpackung Forstwirtschaft 169,95 29486 Digital-Startpackung BLS 349,95 29720 Digital-Startpackung Personen 499,95 29740 Mega-Startpackung Bundesbahn 1499,95 37358 E-Lok BR 101 DB AG 299,95 37764 Diesellok BR 218 DB 299,95 37956 Schnellzug-Dampflok BR 03 DB 399,95 37957 Schnellzug-Dampflok BR 03 DB 349,95 37995 Dampflok Big Boy U.P. 849,95 39024 Schnellzug-Dampflok BR 18.3 D 399,95 39233 Personenzug-Dampflok BR 23 DB 399,95 39371 E-Lok BR 101 Polio DB AG 299,95 41929 Schnellzugwagen-Set Rheingold 349,95 44310 Wagen-Set Forstwirtschaft 32,95 78310 Themen-Ergänzungspackung Forst 89,95 81870 Startpackung Intercity DB 329,95 Only ONE Z scale!!!
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H0		#29 Posted : 07 January 2013 20:14:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: vilithejou 37995 Dampflok Big Boy U.P. 849,95 RRP for 37993 and 37994 is € 799.95. Makes me wonder if there is something new about this one. Originally Posted by: vilithejou 41929 Schnellzugwagen-Set Rheingold 349,95 RRP for 41928 is € 299.95. Makes me wonder if this set was improved. Maybe two baggage cars, maybe built-in decoder, maybe built-in interior lights. It's the plastic era II Rheingold - coaches roll much easier than the tin-plate era II Rheingold coaches.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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H0		#30 Posted : 07 January 2013 20:19:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: ozzman Only ONE Z scale!!! Only one freight-car set? Hey, this is not all - this is just the list of starter sets with some appetizers. Same procedure as last year, Miss Sophie? Same procedure as every year, James ... Same procedure ...
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ozzman		#31 Posted : 07 January 2013 21:01:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,828 Location: Sydney, Australia		Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: ozzman Only ONE Z scale!!! Only one freight-car set? Hey, this is not all - this is just the list of starter sets with some appetizers. Same procedure as last year, Miss Sophie? Same procedure as every year, James ... Same procedure ...
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Bigdaddynz		#32 Posted : 07 January 2013 21:08:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: vilithejou 37995 Dampflok Big Boy U.P. 849,95 Yikes, another Big Boy?? I wonder what will be different this time. However, I already have 2 Big Boys, so I don't need another (I have to keep repeating this to myself, so as to convince myself that I don't need it!) Originally Posted by: vilithejou From stummi and not offical by Marklin Joan, do you have a link to the Stummi thread? Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Otherwise my wallet sounds safe so far. Same here! Hope it stays that way! Have there been any new 1 Gauge items announced?
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vilithejou		#33 Posted : 07 January 2013 21:37:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 850 Location: Vic, Barcelona		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: vilithejou From stummi and not offical by Marklin Joan, do you have a link to the Stummi thread? Yes, sorry >Stummi forum list< Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Have there been any new 1 Gauge items announced? Not yet... on 17th we hope to have all list with pdf form Märklin web page
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I_love_Marklin_37538		#34 Posted : 08 January 2013 00:12:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2008(UTC) Posts: 957 Location: ,		Originally Posted by: vilithejou From stummi and not offical by Marklin 29040 Digital-Startpackung Bundesbahn 899,95 29169 Startpackung Serie 5906 + Güterzug 159,95 29171 Startpackung DSB 129,95 29214 Startpackung Güterzug 89,95 29310 Startpackung Forstwirtschaft 169,95 29486 Digital-Startpackung BLS 349,95 29720 Digital-Startpackung Personen 499,95 29740 Mega-Startpackung Bundesbahn 1499,95 37358 E-Lok BR 101 DB AG 299,95 37764 Diesellok BR 218 DB 299,95 37956 Schnellzug-Dampflok BR 03 DB 399,95 37957 Schnellzug-Dampflok BR 03 DB 349,95 37995 Dampflok Big Boy U.P. 849,95 39024 Schnellzug-Dampflok BR 18.3 D 399,95 39233 Personenzug-Dampflok BR 23 DB 399,95 39371 E-Lok BR 101 Polio DB AG 299,95 41929 Schnellzugwagen-Set Rheingold 349,95 44310 Wagen-Set Forstwirtschaft 32,95 78310 Themen-Ergänzungspackung Forst 89,95 81870 Startpackung Intercity DB 329,95 Where can I see the photos?
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vilithejou		#35 Posted : 08 January 2013 01:06:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 850 Location: Vic, Barcelona		Originally Posted by: I_love_Marklin_37538 Where can I see the photos? Not yet... in 3/4 days some photos I hope... For next week all new items with pdf
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mike c		#36 Posted : 08 January 2013 02:30:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,245 Location: Montreal, QC		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: mike c Add to that the fact that only the front track on the lower level has catenary. Both levels have catenary, the top level is quite faint. Sorry, I meant that only the first (of the two tracks) on the lower level has catenary. The upper level also has catenary, but it is not clear if this is also a double line like the lower level. MC
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mike c		#37 Posted : 08 January 2013 02:35:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,245 Location: Montreal, QC		There was a lot of discussion in the Stummi Forum about the 29486 BLS Set and whether it would include a model of the Re 486 with the Alpinist livery. A few posts surmised that it may be a Re 420 as the 2981 and 29483 sets had a Re 421, but I think it will most likely be a Hobby Traxx variant, either 486 or 185 with some kind of freight cars. I'm leaning towards a 486 based on the 36607/36608 type model with MS and basic oval. Regards Mike C
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foumaro		#38 Posted : 08 January 2013 08:15:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,431 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Yikes, another Big Boy?? I wonder what will be different this time. However, I already have 2 Big Boys, so I don't need another (I have to keep repeating this to myself, so as to convince myself that I don't need it!) I think i have listen and read this many times. .For all of us.
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klarinettmeister		#39 Posted : 08 January 2013 10:27:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 811 Location: Kirseberg		Yes! Another Big Boy! It´s mine already!!
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jeehring		#40 Posted : 08 January 2013 11:54:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: vilithejou 37995 Dampflok Big Boy U.P. 849,95 RRP for 37993 and 37994 is € 799.95. Makes me wonder if there is something new about this one. Originally Posted by: vilithejou 41929 Schnellzugwagen-Set Rheingold 349,95 RRP for 41928 is € 299.95. Makes me wonder if this set was improved. Maybe two baggage cars, maybe built-in decoder, maybe built-in interior lights. It's the plastic era II Rheingold - coaches roll much easier than the tin-plate era II Rheingold coaches. However, I suggest you to put the two sets side by side ... I did it (in real. Not on photos.) Like me , you will see that on the Tinplate set (the last one) the engraving of some plastic parts is thinner. This is the case of the sides of trucks on which appear some finer details...
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Goofy		#41 Posted : 08 January 2013 17:38:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,292		Oh dear...another Big Boy steam locomotiv! Seems Marklin are perhaps trying to clean out rest of the stock about model.
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5HorizonsRR		#42 Posted : 08 January 2013 17:43:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,996 Location: CA, USA		Originally Posted by: mike c There was a lot of discussion in the Stummi Forum about the 29486 BLS Set and whether it would include a model of the Re 486 with the Alpinist livery. A few posts surmised that it may be a Re 420 as the 2981 and 29483 sets had a Re 421, but I think it will most likely be a Hobby Traxx variant, either 486 or 185 with some kind of freight cars. I'm leaning towards a 486 based on the 36607/36608 type model with MS and basic oval. Regards Mike C An RE 420 would be a dream come true for me, however at the price mentioned its a bit suspicious, and correct me if I"m wrong but that might require some tooling adjustments to the RE 4/4II mold correct? Also, I may again be wrong here but the BLS 420's are only in the NINA passenger livery aren't they?
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steventrain		#43 Posted : 08 January 2013 20:47:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Hi all, The BR03 is complete newly tooling, Not streamlined.
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steventrain		#44 Posted : 08 January 2013 21:09:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		First Picture of BR03 new model.
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mike c		#45 Posted : 08 January 2013 22:19:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,245 Location: Montreal, QC		The BLS Re 420 were from the first series of Re 4/4II (11101-11155) with shorter body and one pantograph. To date, Maerklin has only made the second series (11156-11397) with two pantographs, so I do not think that we are likely to see a whole new model first appear in a Start Set. That being said, there are still a few possible variants of the Re 4/4II that we have not yet seen, which might make for interesting Maerklin models: Re 420 Cargo (simply a Re 4/4II in the new Cargo livery without the pantograph, handrail and other modifications of the 29483/37345). Re 4/4III SBB (same as Re 4/4II but with modified gearing for more traction, which could be replicated in a model) Re 4/4III SOB (from 1983-1995) three SBB Re 4/4III were leased to the Suedostbahn Re 4/4II Zugkraft Aargau with coaches and pilot coach. This would require the manufacturing of three new moulds (EWI A, EWI B and BDt) but would be guaranteed a big seller and would allow Maerklin to expand the coach selection alongside the earlier lightsteel collection. The EWI would be a good choice for Maerklin as the coaches have a scale length of 272mm. Re 4/4II LION (Maerklin could resurrect the coaches from the 28505 and release a 1st/2nd class coach as well). I am still waiting for the Re 4/4I (second series) (like 37044) in red, but this time without the ridiculous Station Announcement please. A BLS Re 486 would actually be the perfect lok for the 47416/47417 RAlpin Set, since they do not make the 36852 Re 485 anymore. Regards Mike C
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old toot		#46 Posted : 08 January 2013 22:20:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 498 Location: christchurch, canterbury		hi all the present and most of what you are talking about is in the 2012/13 catalogue which generally contains the items that are rolling off production and in stores as per marklins advice on order tool the new items details will be released in the end of this week as a pdf format with the catalogues for new items being released at end of jan to link with the shop as per normal regards old toot
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mjrallare		#47 Posted : 08 January 2013 22:27:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 563		Well there's one loco I will buy! Must admit that I feel like a child on Christmas eve. It's great fun reading this thread and the one on Stummis. This "hype" must be worth a lot to Märklin! Can't help thinking back on when Axel Dietz was threating to take Stummis to court for starting a thread like this. Those were indeed dark days... When it comes to the Big Boy I don't own any of the diffent versions and I won't buy this one either. But if Märklin want's to put one more out I have no complaints. Can't understand why one should criticize Märklin for releasing too many versions of a loco. I'd rather have too many than too few... /Torbjörn
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H0		#48 Posted : 08 January 2013 22:39:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: mike c To date, Maerklin has only made the second series (11156-11397) with two pantographs, so I do not think that we are likely to see a whole new model first appear in a Start Set. They also made Re 481 in starter sets, so I don't see what should prevent them from making a starter set Re 420 with the mould they have.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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mike c		#49 Posted : 09 January 2013 04:11:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,245 Location: Montreal, QC		I suppose it is possible that they could release a model of a Cargo Re 420 as it is basically the same model as 29859.2/34/37344/37356, but in the Cargo livery. The Re 481 was easy, because those loks (former MThB/SOB/Lokoop) Re 486 (not the same as the BLS loks) were basically BR 145 painted in SBB colours. It was decided early on that those loks would be used only in Germany and were not adapted for Swiss operations. Shortly thereafter, they were transferred to ADTranz Lokpool (later MRCE) in return for credits against the orders for Re 482s. MRCE later sold or leased the loks to other operators. As far as a BLS Re 420, the Maerklin mould is the wrong prototype. If anybody wants the correct model, they should check out the Roco models 69844 or 68691. Given a choice, I think that most modellers would prefer a prototypically correct SBB Cargo/LION or advertising lok to a fantasy BLS model. Given that Roco now also has a model of the second series of Re 4/4II, now would be a good time for Maerklin to release some new variants before Roco beats them to the punch. Regards Mike C
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H0		#50 Posted : 09 January 2013 08:45:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: mike c The Re 481 was easy They made it easy for them, using the BR 185 mould for a BR 145 loco. IMHO that's worse than labelling a BR 216 mould with BR 218. So a starter set Re 420 would be a much smaller compromise than those Re 481 AFAIK.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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