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P 10 will be the first model of a collection of 5 items .....
In your opinion which Locomotives could be part of the list in the future, & would make the best candidates ? (Which Marklin model ?)
the wooden cases of the Bellingrod edition with glass instead of plexiglass were really nice (good quality)...I hope it will be the same type of case ( or even better) for the BORSIG edition...
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You mean the 37938? It will delivery next month.
Will have look on ebay if delivery begun. |
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Hi Yeehring,
To most Märklin enthusiasts, the name Borsig will probably connotate with the (fictive) BR 53-mallet. Which could be one of the loco's, but is of course a little dated and not as detailed as new models. A BR 05 (most likely without streamline as the Bellingrodt Series already featured one with streamline) would also fit into the range.
Borsig also build - among others - the BR 01, BR 03.10, BR 41 that have been produced by Märklin. Given that the BR 01 has already been marketed in many versions over the last few years, I would expect it to be one of the later models to be presented in the Borsig-range, if ever. Moreover, these locos are not produced by Borsig alone, other companies have build the same locos at the time.
Given that there are about four years separating us from the last Borsig-range model to arrive, it could very well be that completely new toolings will complement the Borsig-range. Perhaps a BR 71.0?
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Thank you Sander (perhaps this subject shouldn't be on "news from Marklin & others"....)
I think the BR 05 could be an emblem for Borsig ....A cab forward too
A streamlined BR 03-10 as well...Those made by Borsig have different skirts (connecting rods are visible)...
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Hi Jeehring,
With the newly announced Insider 2013, I think I can come up with one more potential Borsig-model: the BR 58.10 has also been build by Borsig... Hopefully I will not be forced to buy a Borsig Special Edition, with a Box I cannot use, in order to obtain a Era I BR 58.10 (a.k.a. G10). We'll see...
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37938 arrive today.  More photos, See 'Steventrain - My Locomotives topic' Click > Post No 763< |
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Hi Steven and all, Got mine a week ago. I have tested on my layout; It is simply perfect. Maybe the best build Märklin steam loco I have had in my hands in a very long time (maybe since the 3318?) But...the announced book on "Borsig" was missing in the box  Checked with my dealer: looks like Märklin just realized they had forgotten to put these in the boxes !!   Should be coming later!  Cheers |
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Originally Posted by: jvuye  Hi Steven and all, But...the announced book on "Borsig" was missing in the box Checked with my dealer: looks like Märklin just realized they had forgotten to put these in the boxes !! Should be coming later! Cheers I will email to get the book.  |
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great! mine hopefully wil be buyed in a couple of weeks, cant wait to have it.....in the meantine im waiting for a Fleischmann 1885 set that will provide the right coaches for it, and another P10 also... |
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the picture on the bottom of the wooden box is so   ....( it looks like a 3D cartoon...it only needs Sleeping Beauty & Prince Charming).Is the wooden case with plexiglass or glass ?
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Originally Posted by: jeehring the picture on the bottom of the wooden box is so ....( it looks like a 3D cartoon...it only needs Sleeping Beauty & Prince Charming).Is the wooden case with plexiglass or glass ? Real glass, good quality box, nice fit. Did not test to see the type of glass (tempered, safety, etc..) I also have the Fleischmann # 1885 set + a few extra coaches. Märklin's loco pulls way better though. Wonderful train, even fits on a Swiss type layout. The destination boards on the coaches say: "Berlin Anhalter Bahnhof--> Zurich" Cheers |
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Hi all, Wonderful looking Loco. Will need to get one....  Ian.
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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi all, Will need to get one.... Ian. You should get one early. |
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there were a nice deal on ebay............could not avoid to bid......so....irresponsably it is done!! |
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reply from Marklin.
Dear ########,
thanks for your question.
The Excerpt from the Borsig delivery book can you become in the middle of January from your dealer, from which you have become the locomotive 37938. Please contact your dealer.
Sincerely yours, Marklin Customer service.
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....not very good to me.....we will see.... |
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Just did a search, the ebay seller seems to be an official maerklin dealer, so, hopefully i could receive my book...........paying the postage of course i think.... |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain reply from Marklin.
Dear ########,
thanks for your question.
The Excerpt from the Borsig delivery book can you become in the middle of January from your dealer, from which you have become the locomotive 37938. Please contact your dealer.
Sincerely yours, Marklin Customer service.
The book now delivery to dealers then send to who brought the 37938. |
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hope to get it soon! |
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 Frits Osterthun © 28.12.2012PS: Borsig Edition 2 is DRG Class 50 mit Hoheitszeichen
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great picture of a great loco!
any date for the release of edition 2? next December perhaps? |
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Originally Posted by: franciscohg great picture of a great loco!
any date for the release of edition 2? next December perhaps? No date yet. |
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Hello I promised I would post pictures of the installation of the 72270 steam generator in the P10/Borsig Edition #1 and try to establish the origins of its little Faulhaber motor. So, here goes... The motor is branded "Athlonix", a name I hadn't seen or heard of before. After a quick Google research, it shows that it is a range of high-end Faulhaber motors from Portescap ( A Swiss Company, with a long experience in the field of coreless motors). So kudos to Märklin: this one is definitely *not* an "el'cheapo motor." And it shows: the loco runs fantastically and is very powerful and smooth! Knowing that the new Crocodiles have *two* of these, looks like a no-brainer: I want it! Cheers jvuye attached the following image(s): |
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I agree, it is definitely NOT an "el cheapo cheap" motor...Athlonix = same motor brand as the Insider BR 03.10 model (if I remember correctly....But I'm not very sure)....The new no-sds E 50 also was fitted with a Portescape motor... Portescape is a well known & famous brand...(I thought it was originally a British Cie.... ) thank you very much for interesting pictures Jacques !
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Hi Jacques, Thanks for the information/photo's. Ian.
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Thanks for the information Jacques.
Looks like a man-sized flywheel as well.
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Originally Posted by: MikeR Thanks for the information Jacques.
Looks like a man-sized flywheel as well.
Mike No matter the size: it performs beautifully! 14 coaches (Fleischmann KPEV coaches from 1885 set , plus a few additions of the same) and it seems like it is still running light! I hadn't bought a new Märklin steamer in quite some time, but I must say this one definitely goes on top of the stack! |
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Thanks for showing the pictures. |
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