Hi folks,

Trying to control my lay-out with Rocrail software. However I find the installation quite difficult. I've managed to drive trains and control switches, but now I'm getting hopelessly messed up with the installing of the Lissy decoders.

I want to install my Lissy sensor (adress 501) in the trackplan. However it is unclear which steps to take. The manual and the online wiki are a bit fuzzy here.

Sofar I followed the steps writen in the wiki http://wiki.rocrail.net/doku.php?id=sensor-gen-nl

I think I fail at the "interface part".
1. Interface ID is simple: the name of the central station, in my case Intellibox IR.
2. Then Address part. I read that Bus for Lissy IR items is 2. But then Address!? What do I submit there? I tried 501, which is the Lissy sensors address on my Intellibox, but then nothing happens on the screen when a train passes the sensor. Allthough the sensors LED indicates there was a contact in real.

I found this part dealing with addressing: http://wiki.rocrail.net/doku.php?id=addressing-en

I quote:

Only the Address field is looked at. All other fields of the dialogue are described in detail on page Sensors: Interface.
Sensors are always addressed flat in Rocrail starting with 1. The address of a single sensor connected to a 16-port sensor module is calculated as follows:
Address = ( Module - 1 ) * 16 + Port
Example: Port 5 of the second module has the address ( 2 - 1 ) * 16 + 5 = 2


Now I'm starting to get a bit puzzled.

Whats the module number of a Lissy (Loconet)?!?

And I guess that since the Lissy receiver has 2 sensors it is a 2 port sensor?!?

Address = (Module-1) * 2 (guess) + 2 + 1

Please help.

Regards,

Rinus

Hi Fabrice,

Thanks. I posted a message on the English rocRail forum. Jope to get some help. It should be simple, but its getting quite complex .

I've got no S88. Sold them . However it should work with Lissy sensors too.

You left Bus blank? Only filled the address and sensor type?

Rinus

Thanks Fabrice!

With the alterations you suggested it worked. seems the manual is not up to date here.

I've now managed to steer the trains and switches. Also the sensors seem to be working and the train number appears in the blocks. Its great stuff!

I'll next try a block. I havent succeded to make a train do a auto stop in a block of the hidden yard.


Do you know if there is some sort of manual for hidden yard opperation? I think the rocrailwiki does not provide the essential details to get things working. Its a bit to general for me.

Rinus

Hi Fabrice!

Awesome! As soon as my Pc is fixed (damn windows 8 ... ) I'll post some pics of my trackplan in rocview.


Rinus

Rinus,

Here is an example, extracted from my layout:


This my synoptics. We are going to inspect only a small part of it, i.e. one hidden yard composed of blocks BLoad1, Bload2, Bload3, and 2 others blocks BLow1 & Blow2.
This subset will allow some automatic movement on the lower oval and the 3 lanes of the hidden yard...
The setting of turnouts and sensors are not illustrated, as you know how to do it.


Block BLoad1 (details tab), with a fixed (minimal) stop duration in auto mode = to 5 sec.
The speed block is set to Vmid (except when replaced by a different route speed - see later)


Block Bload1 (route tab). Please notice the route are autogenerated with the "Analyze" feature.
What is interesting here is the declaration of 2 sensors associated to the block, and used by the route entering the "+" side of the block (line "all" selected).
Sensor r1-5 triggers the event "enter2pre" immediatly and set the speed to Vmin; Sensor r3-1 triggers the event "in" 700ms _after_ the sensor has been fired (event timer 2) and the train stops...for at least 5 sec (maybe more if the next forward block is not free)


Block BLoad2 (route tab). The details tab (not illustrated) is based on the same principle as of Bload1


Block BLoad3 (route tab)...Idem


Block BLow1 (details tab). No systematic wait time (i.e. if the next block is free, the train won't stop)


Block BLow1 (route tab). There is only one sensor (r1-6) associated to this block and the sensor generates the event enter2in. In that case, the "enter" event is generated immediatly when the sensors becomes active, and 800ms after (event timer1) the "in" event is generated. The train will stop when the "in" event is fired only if next block (BLow2) is not free.


Block BLow2 (details tab). Same principle as BLow1.


Block BLow2 (route tab). Same principle as BLow1.
And now the routes (only a few)...


Route from BLoad2 to BLow1. Use the speed associated with the destination block


This tab shows how the turnouts will be set...


Route from BLow1 to BLow2. Same as previous. I don't show the "switches" tab, because it is empty.


Route from BLow2 to BLoad1. Please notice here the speed of the route, which is 35% of VMax (for not being too speedy when entering the triple turnout to go to BLoad1). So this speed will come into effect when the train will exit from BLow2


How the triple turnout will be set, to go to BLoad1


Now put 3 locos, one each on BLoad1, Bload2, Bload3, drag and drop the name of the locos to the blocks, set auto mode "on" and "start all"...
You'll see your locos running automatically, stopping on the blocks declared with a wait time and choosing randomly available routes...

Have fun
Fabrice

One quick question though: are the signals in the hidden yard real or fake? I mean are they really there or are they just there in Rocrail and fictional on the layout?

Rinus