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Hum, This looks interesting. I don't know a thing about Marklin My World, except a rumor that it may be battery powered. Could that be true?? But, at least the promo looks cool. Perhaps the Germans have figured out how to use a computer? (Lol, just a joke) Edited by moderator 16 September 2012 21:30:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GG1 Fan  Hum,
This looks interesting. I don't know a thing about Marklin My World, except a rumor that it may be battery powered. Could that be true??
But, at least the promo looks cool. Perhaps the Germans have figured out how to use a computer? (Lol, just a joke) The Märklin My World is partly a re-branding of the Märklin Hobby product programme. Regarding the ICE train - it is battery operated, but comes with ordinary C-track, which allows for moving on to the "normal elctric train" when the children get older. The ICE starter is a toy suitable for children from the age of three (according to the My World brochure in German, that can be downloaded from Märklin). All the other My World locos are "normal" Märklin Locos.
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Hi,
I think the Marklin My World program is a great strategy.
Particularly if it creates a new "brand" as it were, that embeds itself in the heads of the young.
I hope it works for them, I like ot see a success story.
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My be something interesting that just automatically opens the Wallet as they will be at a good price.
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"Marklin My World" is the "Primex" range of this early 21th century.
A completely new packaging cleverly designed , specially made for display units of super markets & department stores....
2 pieces of track inside a plastic bag...another plastic bag with one turnout, etc...etc...
the price of the starter set with 1 Ice + a circle of track + controler is around 50 Euro....The Ice is with magnetic coupling (much more cheaper than our delicate short coupling systems ..)
This new range is a very very good idea from Marklin...
"Marklin My World" is only a part of a more complete restructuring of the ranges that will include a upmarket project with classical & traditionnal Marklin products....
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Originally Posted by: jeehring
..."Marklin My World" is only a part of a more complete restructuring of the ranges that will include a upmarket project with classical & traditionnal Marklin products....
If this is where they are heading, I think it's a very good idea. How Marklin arrange their catalog these days are hopelessly outdated. The way I see it, Marklin customers are getting increasingly divided into two factions: Traditionalists (and probably also the 'old guards'at Marklin) are more likely to resent newer generation of Marklin products - the only thing that stay the same is the basic metal construction, everything else inside is different. Modernist (probably also most new prospective customers that Marklin will want to attract) are looking for increasingly competitive products (detail accuracy, technology, etc) especially with DC alternatives as benchmarking. There are of course, the moderates - who enjoy the best of what both worlds has to offer. The moderates might even be the majority; but the two above groups are the ones that are harder to please, and the most vocal too. Having clearer distinction on where each product stand in the overall catalog would help tremendously. |
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Originally Posted by: TimR Originally Posted by: jeehring
..."Marklin My World" is only a part of a more complete restructuring of the ranges that will include a upmarket project with classical & traditionnal Marklin products....
If this is where they are heading, I think it's a very good idea. How Marklin arrange their catalog these days are hopelessly outdated. The way I see it, Marklin customers are getting increasingly divided into two factions: Traditionalists (and probably also the 'old guards'at Marklin) are more likely to resent newer generation of Marklin products - the only thing that stay the same is the basic metal construction, everything else inside is different. Modernist (probably also most new prospective customers that Marklin will want to attract) are looking for increasingly competitive products (detail accuracy, technology, etc) especially with DC alternatives as benchmarking. There are of course, the moderates - who enjoy the best of what both worlds has to offer. The moderates might even be the majority; but the two above groups are the ones that are harder to please, and the most vocal too. Having clearer distinction on where each product stand in the overall catalog would help tremendously. I agree 100%. This could lead to an exciting new approach from Marklin. |
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' I agree 100%. This could lead to an exiting new approach from Marklin ' Ray. I presume you mean .. exciting and not exiting lol.
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Originally Posted by: David Dewar ' I agree 100%. This could lead to an exiting new approach from Marklin ' Ray. I presume you mean .. exciting and not exiting lol.
dave  What's a 'c' between friends! |
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I guess Marklin read my mind before I posted my 'suggestion' that they make and market a really cool 'must have' starter set that was cheep, would be carried in every store, and every 'kid' would want.
Just look at what Legos did with their trains set: ICE and the German Croc...and the kids love em! They are perfect to run on the floor.
(Ok, given the pictures, price and marketing I just saw in the links...I want one)
Seriously, with a battery powered set, my son is going to have a blast with it...and Dad can sit back and not worry about the electricity issues.
Well Done Marklin!
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This look AWSOME! Even though I have the ICE 2 anyway (or its supposed to come  ) i still want this new one.This could actually create more Marklin dealers, and hopefully expand the Hobby range. |
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Originally Posted by: GG1 Fan I guess Marklin read my mind before I posted my 'suggestion' that they make and market a really cool 'must have' starter set that was cheep, would be carried in every store, and every 'kid' would want.
Just look at what Legos did with their trains set: ICE and the German Croc...and the kids love em! They are perfect to run on the floor.
(Ok, given the pictures, price and marketing I just saw in the links...I want one)
Seriously, with a battery powered set, my son is going to have a blast with it...and Dad can sit back and not worry about the electricity issues.
Well Done Marklin!
Paul Marklin will probably increase sales by producing a consumer range, and selling through shops that don't normally carry that stuff. And they appear to have done that with the 'My World' range that might attract the buyers at the big toy chains, not just hobby shops. All the chains care about is, 'does it sell?'. They don't want to know anything about model trains, which is why they are terrible at selling what we call the 'enthusiast' product. Hopefully Marklin can use their considerable resources to get sales from toy chains, department stores, variety chains (Aldi?). I know nothing about the European retail scene, so all that may seem rather academic. I know that in Australia, the only train set you'll buy in a department store, is a Lego or a Brio, or a Thomas, and I don't think they are cheap, not a whole working set anyway. Maybe that battery powered ICE is aimed at that type of buyer, and seems cheap enough. regards Kimball |
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To follow up on how to find the stores for My World. The question is are Märklin up to that? In Sweden we don't have any supermarkets owned by for instance WalMart or French chain Carrefour, this means that the marketing people need to find the right purchase people of the domestic chains and convince them to make floor and shelf space available for My World. Another route could be to try to get "a foot in the door" with 'Toys R us' ( Shops) or BR Leksaker ( BR shops), but I think it is still an up-hill battle to get space in such shops and I'm pretty sure that it would be pre-destined to fail if an account manager from Märklin: - Would assume that purchase managers of these chains speak German;
- If the account manager was based in Germany - he or she would have to give every store regular visits and coach them individually how to expose the My World brand to enhance sales and
- If Märklin would try to refuse deliveries in case a chain in their Christmas catalogue would like to advertize a starter set at SEK 299:- (at today's rate less than € 33:-) if Märklin's UVP (Unverbindliche Preisempfehlung = Recommended retail price) was above € 39:-, then I'd think 'Toys R us' and/or BR just would tell Märklin to forget the whole idea of selling via them.
In short 'Toys R us' and BR don't need Märklin My World, but Märklin probably need these retailers if they want volume sales in Sweden. (I believe that BR still owns the brand 'Toys R us' in Scandinavia). Edited by user 25 February 2011 18:53:26(UTC)
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With the 50 Euros battery powered ICE - Marklin is entering dangerous water.
There is a reason why all manufacturers abandon the 'toy train' market or not wanting to be labelled as one.
Outside Lego,
for non-serious buyers (parents) who are really just looking for toy train for their children,
themselves uninterested and unwilling to sink much into the investment,
this is pretty much prime targets for Chinese-made el-cheapo plasticky trains which will burn out in less than a year.
Competing in price is no use here.
If you think they are cheap in the stores, in Asia these same items cost only a quarter as much.
At the other end of the market are buyers (parents) who are looking into getting involved into MRR themselves,
using their children as an excuse, really, to hide their own excitement.
Good value remain paramount, for they will be skeptical, but they will also be quite critical in comparing the items..
Having "good looks" and some interesting (digital) features to play with, will matter more than having the cheapest price, IMO.
I think for European models, Piko and Roco are heading the charge here - with their conventional DC starter sets.
My thinking is Marklin battery powered ICE's positioning is difficult to fit either markets.
The 'battery' put it in the "toy train" category, but it doesn't have the price point to compete against the Chinese.
For would-be serious MRR buyers, it may looked decidedly too toyish; they might be willing to spend a bit more on the traditional starter sets. |
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Originally Posted by: TimR With the 50 Euros battery powered ICE - Marklin is entering dangerous water.
The 'battery' put it in the "toy train" category, but it doesn't have the price point to compete against the Chinese.
For would-be serious MRR buyers, it may looked decidedly too toyish; they might be willing to spend a bit more on the traditional starter sets. Well, I think it is a quite interresting product. From M.´s point of view; It´s roughly at half price of any other starter-set, thereby entering a new segment. It´s style definatly competes against your mentioned chineese crap-trains, albeit at a higher pricepoint. So I think the idea is that the name "Märklin" will drive the sales, in the competition. (For serious starters there are still the normal starter-packs. That segment is already very well catered for...) |
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The cheapo ICE is a good idea to get the very young child interested. However, in my opinion, the main plus point of the "My world" branding is the stated intention to market these through chain stores and toy shops rather than dedicated model shops which, as discussed in other threads, are fast disappearing.
If Marklin can pull this off it will provide the high visibility that Marklin needs to catch the attention of the young child and associated young parents. |
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Makes me wonder how many strategies M* have: on one hand they try to protect small B&M shops with the 10% rebate limit.
On the other hand they try to win the Cash&Carry shops with My World offering blister packs with three pieces of track (and maybe an RFID chip).
Might help both sides: Piko's Xmas starter sets in German food stores led to better sales of Piko track pieces in the B&M shops.
There were no Märklin Xmas starter sets in 2010, but that could work better in 2011 if they play it right. |
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Too me its a good ideal, as long as the quality is good. Get a train into kids hands when he is young, get a catalog into Dad's hands and maybe he will get into the hobby as well. Although I hate the ideal of batteries it will allow for lower age recommendations on packaging. I hate that they have to put that on there for parents that are too stupid to judge that for them self or too lazy to supervise their child's play. (I wonder if my 2960 starter set was recommended for ages 2+ when I got it in 1966or 67  ) |
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My opinion:
Back in the 30's-50's and even into the 70's, an electric model train set was the coolest thing a kid could get in a present. A simple circular/oval track, a loco with rolling stock and a transformer/power pack...instant transformation into the word of interactive virtural reality. Once one kid on the block got one, and bragged about it, every other kid wanted one too.
There is money in that market. Visability is key, as is a cool item to play with. Battery power reduces the retail cost to the consumer. The ICE looks like a good product, and has, to me, an excellent marketing campaign to back it up.
Ya think the Chinese can compete with that? Cheeper? Yes. Quality and desireability? No.
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Originally Posted by: Dimi194 This look AWSOME! Even though I have the ICE 2 anyway (or its supposed to come ) i still want this new one.This could actually create more Marklin dealers, and hopefully expand the Hobby range. Well.. This My world ICE will only come out in September 2011 onwards and for your information , this model is designed for babies and toddlers lol due to the lack of pantograph on it..  |
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Can the ICE set use with CS2? |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Can the ICE set use with CS2? No.. The ICE set is only for kids so no interference with Marklin Digital system for the price you pay and secondly , there may not be digital decoder fitted in it.  |
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Originally Posted by: TimR With the 50 Euros battery powered ICE - Marklin is entering dangerous water.
There is a reason why all manufacturers abandon the 'toy train' market or not wanting to be labelled as one.
Outside Lego,
for non-serious buyers (parents) who are really just looking for toy train for their children,
themselves uninterested and unwilling to sink much into the investment,
this is pretty much prime targets for Chinese-made el-cheapo plasticky trains which will burn out in less than a year.
Competing in price is no use here.
If you think they are cheap in the stores, in Asia these same items cost only a quarter as much.
At the other end of the market are buyers (parents) who are looking into getting involved into MRR themselves,
using their children as an excuse, really, to hide their own excitement.
Good value remain paramount, for they will be skeptical, but they will also be quite critical in comparing the items..
Having "good looks" and some interesting (digital) features to play with, will matter more than having the cheapest price, IMO.
I think for European models, Piko and Roco are heading the charge here - with their conventional DC starter sets.
My thinking is Marklin battery powered ICE's positioning is difficult to fit either markets.
The 'battery' put it in the "toy train" category, but it doesn't have the price point to compete against the Chinese.
For would-be serious MRR buyers, it may looked decidedly too toyish; they might be willing to spend a bit more on the traditional starter sets. Hi i see your point, but most familys shop in supermarkets. I am one of those, but i do have Marklin, of which i cant get from my local model shop and refuse to buy from the UK anyway because of the price increase and tax from Germany into the UK. Anyway my point is that Marklin neads to support its core modellers. To do so it neads to invest. and as i see it will only do so by selling there toys to supermarkets. A Hornby Thomas tank doas not have sound!!. and is around the same price!!. If any of my little ones frends were to want a train set, then it would grab there attention if sound is included. And most German,Austrian and Dutch ect little peaple have only ever seen Modern trains ie the ICE. Also most peaple have a trainset and it gets ditched when they get older. Then they get back into it when they retire. They want the trains they saw when they were little, hence the policy to build era three by most european Marklin fans.
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looks good for little ones!
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Originally Posted by: jeehring "Marklin My World" is the "Primex" range of this early 21th century.
A completely new packaging cleverly designed , specially made for display units of super markets & department stores....
2 pieces of track inside a plastic bag...another plastic bag with one turnout, etc...etc...
the price of the starter set with 1 Ice + a circle of track + controler is around 50 Euro....The Ice is with magnetic coupling (much more cheaper than our delicate short coupling systems ..)
This new range is a very very good idea from Marklin...
"Marklin My World" is only a part of a more complete restructuring of the ranges that will include a upmarket project with classical & traditionnal Marklin products.... The magnetic coupling is very suitable for a train such as the ICE and ideal for children. It's very wise of Ma not to abandon the youth demographic when there are so many other distractions for them. The company's survival is at stake.
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My recollection of Miss 3 (at the time) and trains was that she couldn't:
1. put the train on the track easily...
2. couple the wagons together..
3. put the tracks together..
She had no trouble using the analogue controller to make the train go forward or backward.. I also seem to remember that the 7051 crane was easy for her to use at age four or five.. (We didn't have a crane at age three)..
I think that this only solves item 2... Derailments, sometimes by cat attack, are normal things on model trains.. The hardest bit is putting the train back on the track properly.. As Miss 11 she has no problems now (unless access is difficult), but I don't think that she really mastered putting the trains on the track until she was five or six..
She could put the one gauge tracks together much earlier than the m-track, but not at age three.. I don't think that a three year old has the physical strength to put c-track together... Once again, I think that this is the five or six year old.. |
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Can the ICE set use with CS2? Yes, it will work when your CS2 doesn't work anymore.  Convert it into a rescue train. |
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Well we will try to push the MyWorld concept this weekend at the Edmonton model train show this weekend.
I will put out track and have the kids play with the trains. Something most kids are not allowed to do at a train show in case some thing breaks.
I had a few comments that our booth was the only booth to let kids play with electric model trains.
My dealer supplies the table and track along with the battery ICE, I supply my 2 start sets and encourage the kids to play. |
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Hi Harald again been doing some shifting around here so here's some photos  the shop layout  looking from entry  view from counter to Marklin area  the last snow fall from shop window regards bryan old toot |
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opps look like you got some double vison
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Hi bryan, Great looking Märklin shop.  Ian.
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Yes, I wish I had a Marklin shop so well stocked near me. |
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Originally Posted by: RayF Yes, I wish I had a Marklin shop so well stocked near me. Hi Ray, I've got a room upstairs that's starting to look like that, and with what I see on this forum, so have a lot of other members. Ian.
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hi Ian
thanks for your comments
from the Marklin area the shop goes to the left to the
faller area so its a L shaped and as you see we get
lovely sunligth from three sides which always makes any shop
stock look bright and fresh
so yea quite a great place to work and a great view south to the port hills
so the customers love it
the ice shot was when we got that bad snow about 2 months ago and we have
corrugated iron roof so as it melted it slid off the roof hence the shapes
so enjoy
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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Originally Posted by: RayF Yes, I wish I had a Marklin shop so well stocked near me. Hi Ray, I've got a room upstairs that's starting to look like that, and with what I see on this forum, so have a lot of other members. Ian. Yes I know! I have over 100 locos now, and I could probably set up a display looking like a Marklin shop too! |
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hi ray go for it put them all in rows and racks it helps when deciding what to run next and as we found out really good in earthquakes Ian keeps suggesting I open a shop in scotland there must be an opening for say someone in the middle of england on a major transport link city with a club rooms attached eh regards bryan old toot |
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Nice little layout for the customers! Well done arrangement of the store! |
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Snow??? Do you have such stuff down there???? According to the "Western Islanders" snow is non-existent also in the southern hemisphere winter...   |
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Webbie, Not quite correct, there are places in OZ that gets that horrible white stuff in winter and the eastern Islanders get it in most places in winter. If not it feels like it.
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