Joined: 02/08/2012(UTC) Posts: 64 Location: Nelson, New Zealand
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If you are locating a signal (probably Veissman 4017) on the TT platform where do you run the leads to the decoder which is postioned underneath. Do I need to do some reconstruction or is there an easier way????
Cheers Bruce
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand
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I don't think the turntable was ever designed to have signals installed on it.
I would think that running wires would pose a risk of entanglement (unless you can somehow run them down the centre pivot point), so you would have to make modifications to use some kind of copper contacts on every stopping point.
If there is a manufacturer who makes some sort of wireless signal controller out there in MRR land, then that might be a nice elegant solution.
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Joined: 02/08/2012(UTC) Posts: 64 Location: Nelson, New Zealand
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz  I don't think the turntable was ever designed to have signals installed on it.
I would think that running wires would pose a risk of entanglement (unless you can somehow run them down the centre pivot point), so you would have to make modifications to use some kind of copper contacts on every stopping point.
If there is a manufacturer who makes some sort of wireless signal controller out there in MRR land, then that might be a nice elegant solution. Thanks, The reason why I asked is that I had read on this forum that someone had done this but i was after more details Cheers B
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I haven't used it myself - but there is a TT-decoder that makes use of these signals (which then off-course must be replaced by functional signals to work properly). Current version of this item contains several PCB:s of which one is installed in the TT. This PCB communicates through the original cable with an external PCB (the "decoder"), and can control 4 switching signal (and of course the TT-motor and so on). The use of this decoder requires some reconstruction of the TT. Description and function can be viewed here: TT-decoder (note: page in German). It's a DIY project which anyone can build. If I remember correctly parts complete PCB:s can also be purchased somewhere (haven't researched that now). |
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Joined: 25/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 300 Location: Sydney, NSW
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Isn't the turntable bridge itself permanently powered? Could one wire directly to the signal from the bridge?
Something I have pondered but not quite at that stage in my layout.
Regards,
Michael.
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Joined: 23/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,597 Location: Beverly, MA
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Hi all, Originally Posted by: Bruce Martin  If you are locating a signal (probably Veissman 4017) on the TT platform where do you run the leads to the decoder which is postioned underneath.Do I need to do some reconstruction or is there an easier way????Cheers Bruce Bruce,light signals came very late to TT's,most used a Sh0/1 that was on each end of the bridge,which were switched when the lok was allowed on the TT.That is when the bridge was aligned and sometimes locked into position so the lok could(slowly) drive on the TT the opposite was true then the lok was turned. I have also seen a Ra 11( a wait signal) on TT. Rant:what always burned me was that FL/M included these non functioning light signals with the TT,I spent many an week wondering how to bring them to life...ho hum Dr Dirt
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Joined: 25/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 945 Location: Sydney, NSW
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Hi Bruce, See my article on how I solved this problem, it work very well. TT Signals and Cabin LightBruce Martin wrote: The reason why I asked is that I had read on this forum that someone had done this but i was after more details
Cheers B
Edited by user 02 January 2025 04:43:44(UTC)
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Joined: 23/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,597 Location: Beverly, MA
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Joined: 25/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 945 Location: Sydney, NSW
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Hi Kevin, Thanks for the correction. Originally Posted by: kbvrod  The link has been corrected above Edited by user 02 January 2025 04:45:09(UTC)
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Joined: 23/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,597 Location: Beverly, MA
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Originally Posted by: Ross  Hi Kevin,Thanks for the correction. Originally Posted by: kbvrod  You what to thank me? Git your arse over here again!I'll round up the lads/laddies/boyos and show you a good time! Then again,you might want to pass,....  Ya know how we are. Dr D
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Joined: 02/08/2012(UTC) Posts: 64 Location: Nelson, New Zealand
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Thanks for the info. Will study it. Cheers Bruce
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Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,289
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What is wrong with Marklin/Fleischmann? Why can´t they do it same way by this...? It´s an nice details and function on the turntable! |
H0 DCC = Digital Command Control
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Joined: 23/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,597 Location: Beverly, MA
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Originally Posted by: Goofy  What is wrong with Marklin/Fleischmann? Why can´t they do it same way by this...? It´s an nice details and function on the turntable!  Pardon? 1) It would an immense cost to a 40 year old design 2) Would everyone want these signals? 3)The M/Fl TT is a rare TT (26M) most likely used for the BR 10 That said,not every TT had light signals or even the Sh0/1 or the Ra11,in a Bw workers gave hand/lamp signals to the driver to move the lok,... Dr D
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Joined: 20/11/2010(UTC) Posts: 426 Location: Worcestershire, UK
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Joined: 23/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,597 Location: Beverly, MA
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Hi all, Nice find Robert! That settles that! Dr D
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Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,289
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Originally Posted by: kbvrod  Originally Posted by: Goofy  What is wrong with Marklin/Fleischmann? Why can´t they do it same way by this...? It´s an nice details and function on the turntable!  Pardon? 1) It would an immense cost to a 40 year old design 2) Would everyone want these signals? 3)The M/Fl TT is a rare TT (26M) most likely used for the BR 10 That said,not every TT had light signals or even the Sh0/1 or the Ra11,in a Bw workers gave hand/lamp signals to the driver to move the lok,... Dr D It´s an likely function. So why not as function too on the turntable? |
H0 DCC = Digital Command Control
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