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Offline Jensb  
#1 Posted : 17 March 2012 22:50:53(UTC)
Jensb

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Location: Copenhagen
Bored Hi,

I bought a brand new Z scale 88190 Santa Fe train a few weeks ago.
http://www.maerklin.com/...Fdiesel_locomotives.html

But only one motor was running, so it was back to the shop.

Today I picked it up after being repaired, and now both motors are running.

But they don't run equally. The motor in one end of the train starts running as soon as I give it just a little power, but the other motor dosn't start until I reach about 100-120 (out of 200) on the controller. And this also means, the train dosn't start moving, until I reach about 120.
It's always the same motor that starts late, no matter what direction I drive.

I this a fail or a feature? Is a A-B-A design supposed to work like this?

And I can only put about 5 cars on it, then it barely drives anymore, unless I give it full power.

So I'm feeling that all my 20-25 years old trains, that I inherited from my grandfather, runs much better than this brand new one that I bought.
Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 17 March 2012 23:00:47(UTC)
H0


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Hi!

I have the same problem with my 1:87 Thalys: both motors are running at different speeds, so one loco always has slipping wheels and will brake the other loco instead of working together.
The train worked at first, but failed recently.

I don't have much experience with Z gauge, but both A and B units should have the same motor and should start running at the same voltage.
You can try the typical maintenance tasks to see if that helps (oiling gears, cleaning collectors, maybe reducing the pressure of brushes on the motor of the "late starter") and return it to Märklin as a last resort.
Regards
Tom
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Offline Jensb  
#3 Posted : 17 March 2012 23:42:59(UTC)
Jensb

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Location: Copenhagen
Thanks for your reply.

I'll test it a bit more, and then probably take it back to the shop.
Offline Loadmaster  
#4 Posted : 18 March 2012 02:40:02(UTC)
Loadmaster

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Joined: 03/02/2010(UTC)
Posts: 898
Location: So Cal
I have the Alaska RR A-B-A unit which was released several years ago.
Do you know which motor the dealer repaired?
If it is the repaired motor that is delayed, it may need a little break in period.
Otherwise, lubricate that motor a little.

My last suggestion is check out www.zcentralstation.com which is an exclusive Z scale form here in the US.
There are a lot of world wide members and you should get a reliable answer.
I'm also on that form for about 8 years.

Rob
HOac and Z scale running SBB/BLS Era IV-V
Offline Jensb  
#5 Posted : 18 March 2012 10:53:43(UTC)
Jensb

Denmark   
Joined: 17/03/2012(UTC)
Posts: 5
Location: Copenhagen
Thanks for your reply.

I'll try to let it run some more, and maybe a drop of oil, and see if it improves.

Thanks for the link, I'll take a look at that forum.
Offline Loadmaster  
#6 Posted : 18 March 2012 17:18:19(UTC)
Loadmaster

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Please keep me posted on the status of your A-B-A unit.
You can also PM me if you prefer.

Rob
HOac and Z scale running SBB/BLS Era IV-V
Offline Heine Pedersen  
#7 Posted : 21 April 2012 09:16:03(UTC)
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Jens, it is probably something with the gears. Take a look at this site: http://www.zscale.org/articles/revival.html

Heine
Offline Jensb  
#8 Posted : 21 April 2012 09:38:36(UTC)
Jensb

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Originally Posted by: Heine Pedersen Go to Quoted Post
Jens, it is probably something with the gears. Take a look at this site: http://www.zscale.org/articles/revival.html

Heine


Thanks, I'll take a look.

I took the train back to the shop, and they agreed on the problem, so they'll try to change the engine. They are friendly and seems to know what they are doing, but unfortunately they aren't to fast. So I'm still waiting to get the repaired train back.

I'll keep you updated.
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